All I want is for Thrawn to NOT end up dead once Rebels is done with him.

If you watch the rebels recon for the episode, Dave and Henry gilroy, one of the producers, talk about the great lengths they went to make sure their Thrawn was faithful to the books, and in a different interview Dave said that they showed Timothy Zahn the progress on him and he gave input on the process. I think they know what he means to the fans, and are treating him with the utmost respect, which is awesome

Pretty certain Maul shows up next episode.

And that illustrates how the Empire=Dark Side=Selfish. The dedicated Imperials, the ones that aren't even tempted to join the Alliance, are in it for their own gain and nothing more. Oh, they may mouth platitudes about protecting the people or serving a greater good, but the ones that actually DO feel that way eventually realize they're on the wrong side and move over to the Rebellion.

That reminds me - I assume everyone noticed in that episode that...

Agent Kallus's, like, only line was him blatantly criticizing an action of the Empire.

That can't be an accident.

And that illustrates how the Empire=Dark Side=Selfish. The dedicated Imperials, the ones that aren't even tempted to join the Alliance, are in it for their own gain and nothing more. Oh, they may mouth platitudes about protecting the people or serving a greater good, but the ones that actually DO feel that way eventually realize they're on the wrong side and move over to the Rebellion.

That reminds me - I assume everyone noticed in that episode that...

Agent Kallus's, like, only line was him blatantly criticizing an action of the Empire.

That can't be an accident.

speaking of which, what is Kallus's point in the story now? I mean, he didn't really do anything in season two (correct me if I'm wrong) except for the episode where he is stranded wit Zeb on one of Geonosis' moons. I have hope he will be featured more in season 3, and I do have faith that he will leave the empire. He , imo, is one of the most mysterious characters in Rebels.

And that illustrates how the Empire=Dark Side=Selfish. The dedicated Imperials, the ones that aren't even tempted to join the Alliance, are in it for their own gain and nothing more. Oh, they may mouth platitudes about protecting the people or serving a greater good, but the ones that actually DO feel that way eventually realize they're on the wrong side and move over to the Rebellion.

That reminds me - I assume everyone noticed in that episode that...

Agent Kallus's, like, only line was him blatantly criticizing an action of the Empire.

That can't be an accident.

speaking of which, what is Kallus's point in the story now? I mean, he didn't really do anything in season two (correct me if I'm wrong) except for the episode where he is stranded wit Zeb on one of Geonosis' moons. I have hope he will be featured more in season 3, and I do have faith that he will leave the empire. He , imo, is one of the most mysterious characters in Rebels.

Speaking of a Geonosis, whatever happened to the Geonosians? I heard it was explained somewhere...

WRT the Jedi and other Force adepts after the start of A New Hope : Tarkin lies: We watched Tarkin tell Imperial officials that the Jedi are extinct. Yoda lies. Obi-Wan lies. Furthermore, Obi-Wan and Yoda's words were rather precise: There could be 10 Jedi or 10 million Jedi or no Jedi in the galaxy. If the only one with a hope of defeating Vader and the Emperor is a Skywalker, it doesn't matter for the purpose of, "He was our last hope."

Wouldn't it be a kicker if Kallus was the one who fed the Rebels the information about the Death Star test that leads to the story of Rogue One, though?

And that illustrates how the Empire=Dark Side=Selfish. The dedicated Imperials, the ones that aren't even tempted to join the Alliance, are in it for their own gain and nothing more. Oh, they may mouth platitudes about protecting the people or serving a greater good, but the ones that actually DO feel that way eventually realize they're on the wrong side and move over to the Rebellion.

That reminds me - I assume everyone noticed in that episode that...

Agent Kallus's, like, only line was him blatantly criticizing an action of the Empire.

That can't be an accident.

speaking of which, what is Kallus's point in the story now? I mean, he didn't really do anything in season two (correct me if I'm wrong) except for the episode where he is stranded wit Zeb on one of Geonosis' moons. I have hope he will be featured more in season 3, and I do have faith that he will leave the empire. He , imo, is one of the most mysterious characters in Rebels.

Speaking of a Geonosis, whatever happened to the Geonosians? I heard it was explained somewhere...

In the Vader comic, they mentioned that the planet was sterilized.

YES!

My husband and I sat there with open mouths. "He's not manipulating the walker... he's manipulating the person operating it... oh man, that's...not of the Jedi."

Although remember that

Luke force-choked a couple of Jabba's guards

. Not exactly using the Force for knowledge and defense there.

There are some theories that Luke had turned to the dark side by that point, and it's only Vader's sacrifice that redeemed him. quite like that idea.

I wouldn't go that far, but yes, one of the underlying themes is his struggle with the dark side (nicely illustrated by his black robe that opens in the end to reveal a light color on the inside).

Luke was indeed dark side by endor, indeed that's WHY the black outfit, and why the flap was down on his shirtshowing the white... Indicating still good in him.

In the Vader comic, they mentioned that the planet was sterilized.

Sorry, double post.

Luke was indeed dark side by endor, indeed that's WHY the black outfit, and why the flap was down on his shirtshowing the white... Indicating still good in him.

I'd really say putting him on the dark side is too much, he still believed in the Jedi ways. He just struggeled with the dark and in Jabbas palace fell for it to some degree. But he would never have returned to Yoda if he didn't believe in the light, at least not to talk to him, only for revenge because of the Jedi lies.

Imagine if the rebels end up getting a Rebellion TIE Interceptor with Wedge as the Pilot.

Imagine if the rebels end up getting a Rebellion TIE Interceptor with Wedge as the Pilot.

I can't wait for that episode/story arc.

Luke was indeed dark side by endor, indeed that's WHY the black outfit, and why the flap was down on his shirtshowing the white... Indicating still good in him.

I wouldn't go that far. Going wholly over to the Sith gives you those gold pupils, which Luke plainly didn't have.

Maybe not 100% dark side, but dark side enough.

YES!

My husband and I sat there with open mouths. "He's not manipulating the walker... he's manipulating the person operating it... oh man, that's...not of the Jedi."

Although remember that

Luke force-choked a couple of Jabba's guards

. Not exactly using the Force for knowledge and defense there.

There are some theories that Luke had turned to the dark side by that point, and it's only Vader's sacrifice that redeemed him. quite like that idea.

The real question, as always, is "What is the Dark Side?"

It's selfishness, greed, hate, and fear, and actions taken because of and fueled by those emotions.

Luke force-choking those guards was none of those; he didn't hate the guards, he just needed them out of the way and didn't want to kill them. He was using Force Choke as a merciful action, a simple way to tell them that "I'm beyond your strength. Get out of my way and no further harm will come to you." He was definitely using it for defense as well, because the alternative was laser-ginsuing some green pork fillets.

Avoiding certain powers because they're 'Dark Side' is a very hidebound Jedi belief; what matters is the emotion and motivation behind it, not the use. "There is no passion, there is serenity." "A Jedi does not act for personal gain." I recently found a Star Wars adaption for one of my favorite universal RPGs, Savage Worlds, and one of the two problems with it are how it treats almost ALL of the powers as 'dark' and 'light' when what should matter for almost all of them is motivation. A Jedi using simple levitation to waft credits into her hand, or manipulating a game of sabaac with a reading of the future, is giving into the Dark Side just as much as a Jedi electrocuting someone to steal their wallet.

Star Wars just uploaded a new video:

He's doing that Kylo mind read shizz on her.

He's doing that Kylo mind read shizz on her.

Yup, Rebels just seems so lazy sometimes.

Transplants Rex, Ahsoka, and Maul from the Clone Wars cartoon to this series.

Takes Ren's force-mind-reading, which we've never seen elsewhere, and gives it to Maul.

Spams double-bladed sabers everywhere, and can't leave lightsabers--a weapon that has remain unchanged for thousands of years--alone, making them fly like helicopters or have hidden guns.

Remember Master Kota, that cool grizzled jedi who survived O66, has clone trust issues, and lost his sight? Basically Kanan has become him.

etc.

He's doing that Kylo mind read shizz on her.

Yup, Rebels just seems so lazy sometimes.

Rex and Ahsoka and Maul were popular on Clone Wars, let's use them here!

Hey, it was cool when Ren used, for the first time, mind-reading through the force. Hey, let's have Maul use it!

Double-Bladed sabers are cool, let's give them to all the inquisitors!

That blind jedi mentor with Clone-Trust issues who survived the purge (Kota) was cool, let's make Kanan a blind jedi mentor who survived the purge and has Clone-Trust issues.

He's doing that Kylo mind read shizz on her.

Yup, Rebels just seems so lazy sometimes.

Transplants Rex, Ahsoka, and Maul from the Clone Wars cartoon to this series.

Takes Ren's force-mind-reading, which we've never seen elsewhere, and gives it to Maul.

Spams double-bladed sabers everywhere, and can't leave lightsabers--a weapon that has remain unchanged for thousands of years--alone, making them fly like helicopters or have hidden guns.

Remember Master Kota, that cool grizzled jedi who survived O66, has clone trust issues, and lost his sight? Basically Kanan has become him.

etc.

I can link a couple Linkin Park albums your way if you want.

Takes Ren's force-mind-reading, which we've never seen elsewhere, and gives it to Maul.

Not much of a 'Star Wars' fan, then, eh? Yes, your thoughts betray you. Your feelings for them are strong. Especially for... sister . So, you have a twin sister! Your feelings have now betrayed her, too.

Luke was indeed dark side by endor, indeed that's WHY the black outfit, and why the flap was down on his shirtshowing the white... Indicating still good in him.

I wouldn't go that far. Going wholly over to the Sith gives you those gold pupils, which Luke plainly didn't have.

As I see it, Luke was on the edge of the dark side the whole time in RotJ, he just didn't realize it until he fully tapped into it while fighting Vader, at which point he pulled himself back. And Yoda knew it, that's why he told Luke that even though his training was complete, he wasn't a Jedi yet.

Takes Ren's force-mind-reading, which we've never seen elsewhere, and gives it to Maul.

Not much of a 'Star Wars' fan, then, eh? Yes, your thoughts betray you. Your feelings for them are strong. Especially for... sister . So, you have a twin sister! Your feelings have now betrayed her, too.

Or, and though I hesitate to bring prequels into it, when Annie-kins was being tested by Yoda & Friends, Master Penishead says, "Your thoughts dwell on your mother..."

Lightsabers remaining unchanged is more a sign of the Jedi Order's (intentional) stagnation than any inability to improve them. Say what you will about the Sith and other Dark Side users, but they do have one solid point in their favor: they evolve . They recognize that change is inevitable, that the struggle of life is what defines a being and drives it forward. That's why they get the funky lightsabers while Light Side users get the clunky ones.

And as far as Kota/Kanan goes...

The best part of the 'legends/canon' split is that if something in Legends is good , they can use it without being saddled with the trash. To say that the good/trash ratio of Legends has a lot more on the trash side is being generous.

So, Kota goes a bit younger and was a Padawan during the Purge? Now has a romantic entanglement to symbolize drifting further from what the Order was? Only reluctantly takes part in any organized Rebellion, and does so not because of some greater cause but because his love is involved? Sounds like a good adaptation to me.

So, Thrawn exists? *squee*

So, Maul teaches the Sith Code from KOTOR? Pretty good.

And not a single Suncrusher or Wyrwulf in sight.