Black Knight Leader is, how to say this... Like a Star Wars lore ayatollah. The lore is sacred, the lore is immutable. And if it contradicts itself at passages, he finds a way to make it look like those passage complements instead of contradict each other.

I do find a little bit inappropriate that they use a full Grand Admiral of the Navy to deal with a small cell of "terrorists and pirates". That is something that intelligence (Kallus), the Inquisition, or tops Vader (the guy that gets things done in the Empire) should take care of. Not a military strategist, that fits better at carrying out campaigns of conquest or military expansion, than as a policeman.

Vader, the Inquisitors, or Kallus are specialists at dealing with jedi, spies, and saboteurs. Thrawn, or the other grand admirals, should be more about moving taskforces and extending the Empire.Or researching and deploying new warmachines, or whatever. He is Napoleon, not a ninja.

I understand where you're coming from, but isn't that the point though? The ninjas have failed to stop the heroes from developing into more than just a small cell of terrorists and pirates. Season 3 seems to be upping the ante and turning the Rebels into a real military force. And the Empire is always looking to apply the method of overkill, so why not send in Napolean?

Black Knight Leader is, how to say this... Like a Star Wars lore ayatollah. The lore is sacred, the lore is immutable. And if it contradicts itself at passages, he finds a way to make it look like those passage complements instead of contradict each other.

I do find a little bit inappropriate that they use a full Grand Admiral of the Navy to deal with a small cell of "terrorists and pirates". That is something that intelligence (Kallus), the Inquisition, or tops Vader (the guy that gets things done in the Empire) should take care of. Not a military strategist, that fits better at carrying out campaigns of conquest or military expansion, than as a policeman.

Vader, the Inquisitors, or Kallus are specialists at dealing with jedi, spies, and saboteurs. Thrawn, or the other grand admirals, should be more about moving taskforces and extending the Empire.Or researching and deploying new warmachines, or whatever. He is Napoleon, not a ninja.

Vader is a bit above a Grand Admiral, though. Granted, the rebels had done something to attract his attention (kill the Grand Inquisitor).

I do find a little bit inappropriate that they use a full Grand Admiral of the Navy to deal with a small cell of "terrorists and pirates". That is something that intelligence (Kallus), the Inquisition, or tops Vader (the guy that gets things done in the Empire) should take care of. Not a military strategist, that fits better at carrying out campaigns of conquest or military expansion, than as a policeman.

Even in the EU, Thrawn was very hands-on. Right before Vader handed the Noghri over to him in 2ABY, he was disguising himself as the bounty hunter Jodo Kast in order to orchestrate the capture of a major criminal - Zekka Thyne, a Vigo of Black Sun.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Zekka_Thyne

Vader is a bit above a Grand Admiral, though. Granted, the rebels had done something to attract his attention (kill the Grand Inquisitor).

Vader's status (at least prior to the Battle of Yavin) seems somewhat ambiguous. He is the Emperor's envoy (or perhaps attack dog if we believe Leia's jibe) yet he sits outside the military hierarchy and chain of command. Admiral Motti clearly has little time or respect for him and Admiral Ozzel seems to treat him as a dignitary rather than a superior officer (to his cost).

Thrawns rank is supposed to be equivalent to Tarkin's and we see Tarkin call Vader off in ANH. This was subsequently retconned to some extent when their exploits in the Clone Wars were written but I am still not convinced that Vader would strictly out-rank Thrawn in the traditional sense.

Thrawns rank is supposed to be equivalent to Tarkin's and we see Tarkin call Vader off in ANH. This was subsequently retconned to some extent when their exploits in the Clone Wars were written but I am still not convinced that Vader would strictly out-rank Thrawn in the traditional sense.

Wookieepedia suggests that, in the Legendsverse, the Grand Admirals technically outranked the Grand Moffs:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Grand_Moff/Legends

Grand Moffs received drastically increased authority, military forces, and funding as fitting their enhanced position. The position of Oversector governor was the sixth highest in the Empire after the Emperor , Lord Darth Vader , Grand Vizier , Imperial Ruling Council , and Grand Admirals . Technically, this made them comparable to Imperial Advisors as they both answered directly to the Emperor.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Grand_Admiral/Legends

Grand Admiral was one of the highest ranks in the Galactic Empire , outranking all other political and military personnel, including Moffs and Grand Moffs.

with Vader technically outranking them:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Supreme_Commander_(Empire)

Boss, where's Rex?

I am making these little emotes for in-game characters. I like Rex but as of now he is not in the game as a pilot or crew member...

Tarkin got Grand Moff which was seen as under his level of skill, but nessecary for the Emporer's plans as "Tarkin" the book seems to state.

I didn't mean that Vader is an underling to Thrawn, of course not.

Just that the Resistance is something for the Gestapo to deal with, not for the Luftwaffe. It's like Hitler sent Rommel after the Inglorious Bastards .

Suure... might work... but... It feels a little bit hysterical.

It's not like the rebel cell is such a military threat, really. Commander "Abandon Ship" Sato is just barely more competent at keeping a fleet together than the Phoenix Squadron pilots at not dying from the sneeze of a TIE Fighter.

The only stone in the Empire's shoe has been the immediate crew of the Ghost. They are the ones that do everything. Five people and a droid.

I didn't mean that Vader is an underling to Thrawn, of course not.

Just that the Resistance is something for the Gestapo to deal with, not for the Luftwaffe. It's like Hitler sent Rommel after the Inglorious Bastards .

Suure... might work... but... It feels a little bit hysterical.

It's not like the rebel cell is such a military threat, really. Commander "Abandon Ship" Sato is just barely more competent at keeping a fleet together than the Phoenix Squadron pilots at not dying from the sneeze of a TIE Fighter.

The only stone in the Empire's shoe has been the immediate crew of the Ghost. They are the ones that do everything. Five people and a droid.

Thrawns rank is supposed to be equivalent to Tarkin's and we see Tarkin call Vader off in ANH. This was subsequently retconned to some extent when their exploits in the Clone Wars were written but I am still not convinced that Vader would strictly out-rank Thrawn in the traditional sense.

Wookieepedia suggests that, in the Legendsverse, the Grand Admirals technically outranked the Grand Moffs:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Grand_Moff/Legends

Grand Moffs received drastically increased authority, military forces, and funding as fitting their enhanced position. The position of Oversector governor was the sixth highest in the Empire after the Emperor , Lord Darth Vader , Grand Vizier , Imperial Ruling Council , and Grand Admirals . Technically, this made them comparable to Imperial Advisors as they both answered directly to the Emperor.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Grand_Admiral/Legends

Grand Admiral was one of the highest ranks in the Galactic Empire , outranking all other political and military personnel, including Moffs and Grand Moffs.

with Vader technically outranking them:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Supreme_Commander_(Empire)

Putting them in one chain of command feels wrong, I always thought moff is a civilian position not a military rank, something like governor.

I didn't mean that Vader is an underling to Thrawn, of course not.

Just that the Resistance is something for the Gestapo to deal with, not for the Luftwaffe. It's like Hitler sent Rommel after the Inglorious Bastards .

Suure... might work... but... It feels a little bit hysterical.

It's not like the rebel cell is such a military threat, really. Commander "Abandon Ship" Sato is just barely more competent at keeping a fleet together than the Phoenix Squadron pilots at not dying from the sneeze of a TIE Fighter.

The only stone in the Empire's shoe has been the immediate crew of the Ghost. They are the ones that do everything. Five people and a droid.

Keep in mind they seem to have Fenn Rau on their side in season 3, so presumably they've got a bunch of Mandalorians helping out as well.

Boss, where's Rex?

I am making these little emotes for in-game characters. I like Rex but as of now he is not in the game as a pilot or crew member...

But neither is Fulcrum.

Well... a Jedi, a padawan, a pilot that flies better then some Jedi, a Mandalorian, a Lasat who was quit possible part of his world's Honor Guard, and a grumps, yet smart, droid. Not quit a normal group.

Sounds like a couple of groups I played in back in the WEG days...

Thrawns rank is supposed to be equivalent to Tarkin's and we see Tarkin call Vader off in ANH. This was subsequently retconned to some extent when their exploits in the Clone Wars were written but I am still not convinced that Vader would strictly out-rank Thrawn in the traditional sense.

Wookieepedia suggests that, in the Legendsverse, the Grand Admirals technically outranked the Grand Moffs:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Grand_Moff/Legends

Grand Moffs received drastically increased authority, military forces, and funding as fitting their enhanced position. The position of Oversector governor was the sixth highest in the Empire after the Emperor , Lord Darth Vader , Grand Vizier , Imperial Ruling Council , and Grand Admirals . Technically, this made them comparable to Imperial Advisors as they both answered directly to the Emperor.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Grand_Admiral/Legends

Grand Admiral was one of the highest ranks in the Galactic Empire , outranking all other political and military personnel, including Moffs and Grand Moffs.

with Vader technically outranking them:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Supreme_Commander_(Empire)

Putting them in one chain of command feels wrong, I always thought moff is a civilian position not a military rank, something like governor.

Moffs and Grand Moffs wear military uniforms for a reason. There's a lot less distinction between the military and the rest of the government in the Empire than in most real-life governments.

Moffs and Grand Moffs wear military uniforms for a reason. There's a lot less distinction between the military and the rest of the government in the Empire than in most real-life governments.

Boss, where's Rex?

I am making these little emotes for in-game characters. I like Rex but as of now he is not in the game as a pilot or crew member...

But neither is Fulcrum.

But I like Fulcrum enough to change that... Zeb does what Rex does... and first; you know what I mean.

Boss, where's Rex?

I am making these little emotes for in-game characters. I like Rex but as of now he is not in the game as a pilot or crew member...

Oh, that explains the GUNBOAT emotes then...

Oh, wait...

... the capture of a major criminal - Zekka Thyne , a Vigo of Black Sun ...

Zekka Thyne... Now there's a name I haven't heard in a long time.

No joke, I literally thought the above response before realizing it was an Obi-Wan quotation. Then I felt awesome.

Well... a Jedi, a padawan, a pilot that flies better then some Jedi, a Mandalorian, a Lasat who was quit possible part of his world's Honor Guard, and a grumps, yet smart, droid. Not quit a normal group.

Sounds like a couple of groups I played in back in the WEG days...

I think that's what basically everyone who became a "day-0" fanatic about this series felt.

I mean, we didn't have the term 'Padawan', yet, and obviously no Jedi, so the "force sensitive" member of the crew were just looking for teachers, but...

Just...yeah, this WAS it. "Rebels" just screams "WEG Star Wars RPG" basically every frame of every episode.

And that's one of the things that makes it great, if you ask me.

The final MOTHER *** PRODUCT WAS BASICALLY A DARKSIDE FORCE USING ENGINEERED BEING HALO SPARTAN THAT HAD AN ADVANCED SUPER DURABLE DEADLY POWER ARMOR AND WEAPONS THAT COULD FIGHT ON EVEN AFTER THE GUY IN IT SOMEHOW DIED OR GOT OUT OF THE *** SUIT.

...what the **** are you even talking about? Those are obviously the Dark Troopers from the Dark Forces game. Which were NONE of those things.

So I got the whole crew done this week... and it was a fun little project .

The Emotes are shown here at a two hundred percent increase of their original size; which is about half the size they are when I actually paint them.

We all show our love of STAR WARS in our own way, this is one of my favorites... then we get to play games with the models too! Thanks FFG!

Fancy blown up postcard size.

The actual size of the original art... they are emotes after all.

I...

I wish the Chopper one were animated, with his arms spinning around his head. Or at least had his little arms out, because I always imagine that he's making a rude gesture in Droid.

As far as Grand Admiral Thrawn being involved...

If the Rebellion was not just a group of terrorists, but a valid threat with fleets of capital ships, a standing army, and multiple systems giving them covert support and shelter while only pretending to support the Empire, then the Emperor would call in a Napolean because it's not an intelligence problem, but a military problem.

Which is kind of like their situation at the start of ANH. Sure, all they have at the Yavin base is some snub fighters, but surely they have larger ships and just knew that calling them in against the Death Star would be wasteful. In point of fact, keeping their fleets and their HQ separate is wise because it would mean that even if the Empire succeeded in destroying one, the Rebellion would still exist.

The final MOTHER *** PRODUCT WAS BASICALLY A DARKSIDE FORCE USING ENGINEERED BEING HALO SPARTAN THAT HAD AN ADVANCED SUPER DURABLE DEADLY POWER ARMOR AND WEAPONS THAT COULD FIGHT ON EVEN AFTER THE GUY IN IT SOMEHOW DIED OR GOT OUT OF THE *** SUIT.

...what the **** are you even talking about? Those are obviously the Dark Troopers from the Dark Forces game. Which were NONE of those things.

Phase 0 = clones, re-engineered and uparmoured. Had a tendancy to jump into battle singing "HERE I COME TO SAVE THE DAY!!!" *

Phase 1 = battledroids inexplicably melee only.

Phase 2 = battledroids with the plasmagun out of doom, rockets. Remind me of space marines.

Phase 3 = Only one prototype, Space Marine like power armour with jump pack, plasmagun and rockets. I always wanted one.

Other variants did include force users but most were phase 2 battledroids.

*Star Wars Battlefront 1 - at least I did this.

And that's one of the things that makes it great, if you ask me.

I agree completely. Rebels plays out like a love letter to the years when WEG was Star Wars. They've even managed to get a ton of stuff from those days back into the Cannon. I was giggling like mad when I realised they had an entire episode that was an homage to Strike Force Shantipole.

Phase 2 = battledroids with the plasmagun out of doom, rockets. Remind me of space marines.

And those are clearly what we're seeing in the trailer.