STAR WARS: REBELS Discussion Thread!

By KCDodger, in X-Wing

Clips from the panel:

The Tale of a Two-Seater A-Wing:

Sabine Gets a Jetpack:

Anyone notice the owl on Sabine's shoulder. Maybe a reference Bo-Katan Kryze's Nite Owls.

I don't have the ability to freeze frame into a still picture but, when Ezra and Maul are attempting to merge the 2 holocrons Kanan is there without the mask. Looks like the green force entities, possibly force ghosts of the Witches of Dathomir (my guess), give him his sight back.

I don't have the ability to freeze frame into a still picture but, when Ezra and Maul are attempting to merge the 2 holocrons Kanan is there without the mask. Looks like the green force entities, possibly force ghosts of the Witches of Dathomir (my guess), give him his sight back.

Hard to tell when it's about to explode. He's not facing the camera.

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Some things from the Rebel panel that may make their way to the tabletop. Here are screen grabs from the Star Wars Celebration panel this morning:

Looks like an 2-seater A-Wing variant:

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And inside a hangar bay where they meet Maul, it's a Protectorate Starfighter that's been repainted in very Maul-like colours. Could it be Maul's? After all, if you're going to tat up your whole face and body with a certain colour scheme, shouldn't your ride match up?:

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That wouldn't be the first 2 seater A-wing in a Star Wars cartoon set a few years prior to ANH.

Clips from the panel:

The Tale of a Two-Seater A-Wing:

Sabine Gets a Jetpack:

Anyone notice the owl on Sabine's shoulder. Maybe a reference Bo-Katan Kryze's Nite Owls.

Probably is. Sabine's mother was almost certainly a member of the Nite Owls, seeing as we know she was Death Watch and apparently it's a Nite Owl helmet that Sabine wears .

Am I the only one who is sad that Wedge's backstory has been altered? His (now) Legends origin story of being orphaned and having his parents' murders ignored by the Empire, thus spurring him to join the Rebellion, was a fantastic way of illustrating ordinary beings sans superpowers rising up to make a difference.

Also, this is ripped straight out of Biggs' origin: joining the Imperial Naval Academy to escape the monotony of life on Tatooine. I find this especially odd since it is obliquely referenced in ANH when Luke protests staying on the moisture farm for another season. There's even a deleted scene of him and Biggs talking with Biggs gushing about life at the Academy. It's Biggs and Hobbie that then defect with their TIE squad to the Alliance after being forced to destroy a civilian craft. I get that they can't use Biggs because it happens too close to ANH and would become contemporaneous with Luke. So I can see the allure in rehashing this storyline. I'm just sad that it explicitly guts Wedges' story and implicitly guts Biggs' since it's not like they'd repeat the same plot. (So what about Biggs now? Is he going to be a college drop out, English major turned soldier?) I know such cut-and-pasting is inevitable with the Mouse taking things over but still. Le sigh.

So I finally got around to watching Rebelst this weekend. I couldn't watch it before because my cable didn't offer DisneyXD unless you paid extra. I now am using playstation vue which has DisneyXD, so I've been DVRing all of the episodes from the past 2 seasons when they've been on. I did have to miss out on a couple, but I got by fine. I'm about halfway through season two at the moment. WIll probably finish up in the next couple days.

The show has been better than I thought it would be. It's not as kiddie as I was expecting, though it does have it's moments (but so did clone wars). I do wish the animation budget hadn't been cut by disney, clone wars looked amazing at times, especially at the end of it's run. Another thing I don't like is the stylization. Clone wars was stylized, but mostly for the characters, especially their heads/faces. Rebels stylizes everything, and some stuff looks weird, especially the tie fighters.

I'm loving all the nods to the clone wars, including bringing back characters like ahsoka, rex, and Hondo. Still hoping to see cad bane at some point.

So I guess overall it's definitely enjoyable and I'll keep watching for sure, but I don't know if it will be able to top clone wars IMO.

Am I the only one who is sad that Wedge's backstory has been altered? His (now) Legends origin story of being orphaned and having his parents' murders ignored by the Empire, thus spurring him to join the Rebellion, was a fantastic way of illustrating ordinary beings sans superpowers rising up to make a difference.

Also, this is ripped straight out of Biggs' origin: joining the Imperial Naval Academy to escape the monotony of life on Tatooine. I find this especially odd since it is obliquely referenced in ANH when Luke protests staying on the moisture farm for another season. There's even a deleted scene of him and Biggs talking with Biggs gushing about life at the Academy. It's Biggs and Hobbie that then defect with their TIE squad to the Alliance after being forced to destroy a civilian craft. I get that they can't use Biggs because it happens too close to ANH and would become contemporaneous with Luke. So I can see the allure in rehashing this storyline. I'm just sad that it explicitly guts Wedges' story and implicitly guts Biggs' since it's not like they'd repeat the same plot. (So what about Biggs now? Is he going to be a college drop out, English major turned soldier?) I know such cut-and-pasting is inevitable with the Mouse taking things over but still. Le sigh.

See... I might've agreed. I don't, but I may've been more inclined to... Had you not just kinda resorted to the same tired'ol thing about "thuh mouse".

Am I the only one who is sad that Wedge's backstory has been altered? His (now) Legends origin story of being orphaned and having his parents' murders ignored by the Empire, thus spurring him to join the Rebellion, was a fantastic way of illustrating ordinary beings sans superpowers rising up to make a difference.

Also, this is ripped straight out of Biggs' origin: joining the Imperial Naval Academy to escape the monotony of life on Tatooine. I find this especially odd since it is obliquely referenced in ANH when Luke protests staying on the moisture farm for another season. There's even a deleted scene of him and Biggs talking with Biggs gushing about life at the Academy. It's Biggs and Hobbie that then defect with their TIE squad to the Alliance after being forced to destroy a civilian craft. I get that they can't use Biggs because it happens too close to ANH and would become contemporaneous with Luke. So I can see the allure in rehashing this storyline. I'm just sad that it explicitly guts Wedges' story and implicitly guts Biggs' since it's not like they'd repeat the same plot. (So what about Biggs now? Is he going to be a college drop out, English major turned soldier?) I know such cut-and-pasting is inevitable with the Mouse taking things over but still. Le sigh.

Defecting Imperial and person who was harmed by the Empire are both rather generic and common backstories for many Rebels. I mean, it has already been established that Fulcrum recruits Wedge. And it is quite a popular theory that the new Fulcrum is another defecting Imperial.

Am I the only one who is sad that Wedge's backstory has been altered? His (now) Legends origin story of being orphaned and having his parents' murders ignored by the Empire, thus spurring him to join the Rebellion, was a fantastic way of illustrating ordinary beings sans superpowers rising up to make a difference.

Also, this is ripped straight out of Biggs' origin: joining the Imperial Naval Academy to escape the monotony of life on Tatooine. I find this especially odd since it is obliquely referenced in ANH when Luke protests staying on the moisture farm for another season. There's even a deleted scene of him and Biggs talking with Biggs gushing about life at the Academy. It's Biggs and Hobbie that then defect with their TIE squad to the Alliance after being forced to destroy a civilian craft. I get that they can't use Biggs because it happens too close to ANH and would become contemporaneous with Luke. So I can see the allure in rehashing this storyline. I'm just sad that it explicitly guts Wedges' story and implicitly guts Biggs' since it's not like they'd repeat the same plot. (So what about Biggs now? Is he going to be a college drop out, English major turned soldier?) I know such cut-and-pasting is inevitable with the Mouse taking things over but still. Le sigh.

Defecting Imperial and person who was harmed by the Empire are both rather generic and common backstories for many Rebels. I mean, it has already been established that Fulcrum recruits Wedge. And it is quite a popular theory that the new Fulcrum is another defecting Imperial.

More specifically the speculation points to Kallus being the new Fulcrum. Which would be interesting at least.

How do we know there is a new Fulcrum? Wasn't Ahsoka Fulcrum?

How do we know there is a new Fulcrum? Wasn't Ahsoka Fulcrum?

The trailer has a shot of someone using Fulcrum's callsign over a holo communication. The shot where they tell the rebels that there are defectors in the academy

And Wedge (in the Aftermath, I think) says he was recruited by Fulcrum.

Of course there is a possibility that Ahsoka contacted the cadets before the Season 2 finale, but it took time to organize the breakout.

Am I the only one who is sad that Wedge's backstory has been altered? His (now) Legends origin story of being orphaned and having his parents' murders ignored by the Empire, thus spurring him to join the Rebellion, was a fantastic way of illustrating ordinary beings sans superpowers rising up to make a difference.

Also, this is ripped straight out of Biggs' origin: joining the Imperial Naval Academy to escape the monotony of life on Tatooine. I find this especially odd since it is obliquely referenced in ANH when Luke protests staying on the moisture farm for another season. There's even a deleted scene of him and Biggs talking with Biggs gushing about life at the Academy. It's Biggs and Hobbie that then defect with their TIE squad to the Alliance after being forced to destroy a civilian craft. I get that they can't use Biggs because it happens too close to ANH and would become contemporaneous with Luke. So I can see the allure in rehashing this storyline. I'm just sad that it explicitly guts Wedges' story and implicitly guts Biggs' since it's not like they'd repeat the same plot. (So what about Biggs now? Is he going to be a college drop out, English major turned soldier?) I know such cut-and-pasting is inevitable with the Mouse taking things over but still. Le sigh.

Defecting Imperial and person who was harmed by the Empire are both rather generic and common backstories for many Rebels. I mean, it has already been established that Fulcrum recruits Wedge. And it is quite a popular theory that the new Fulcrum is another defecting Imperial.

More specifically the speculation points to Kallus being the new Fulcrum. Which would be interesting at least.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit if Kallus is the new Fulcrum, especially after the events in the episode The Honorable Ones. Also, the lack of Kallus in the season 3 trailer lends credibility to this theory. I hope someone breaks down the audio like they did in season 1 for Ahsoka.

And Wedge (in the Aftermath, I think) says he was recruited by Fulcrum.

Of course there is a possibility that Ahsoka contacted the cadets before the Season 2 finale, but it took time to organize the breakout.

Or that Fulcrum is a codename for the position, not the person.

NewFulcrum IS Kallus all right. They didn't mask his actors voice that well this time.

NewFulcrum IS Kallus all right. They didn't mask his actors voice that well this time.

It's totally Kallus.

No-one saw that coming, right :)

Time for a little analysis!

First, a family picture:

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Note a TIE/ln hanging on a rail instead of sitting on the ground on its panels. That's how it was in Legends and we've seen it in Season 2 inside the Quasarfire-class carrier. And that's how it should be, glad the creators of this show see it!

Training:

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Yellow (I assume training) bolts, note a TIE Interceptor on the right side.

And here are the cadets jumping the ship:

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Wedge, a girl and a guy. The girl looks similar to Sabine, but maybe because of the artstyle they all... wait, is that racist...?

Better look at the Y-wing:

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It's most likely a two-seater and looks old, it's not just a stripped down Clone Wars BTL-B, cockpitis the same but the engines are different and the turret, while in raised position, like in BTL-B, is unmanned. Maybe that's how new canon BTL-S3 looks, the old one was much more similar ot one-man BTL-A4.

Note Chopper in the astromech slot. Hint, hint FFG.

Disney pretending prequels never existed:

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Firstly I don't see how Disney is de-canonizing Ep 1-3. Second: Star Wars: Uprising shows us what TIE cadets look like, they don't look like the Pilots we see here jfyi they look like ep three clone pilot armor mixed with storm trooper cadet armor and in fact they have no protective features on their chests, the look like they are wearing wool cloths. 3rd That TIE Interceptor is probably a prototype and or they are merging the Interceptor lore with Chiss Clawcraft and it will be the Interceptor they make after capturing TIEs...? That wouldn't contradict legends though since they keep adding people involved with the creation of TIE Interceptors.

And who else is "back"!

Dark Troopers are back too:

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Also this blue guy is back:

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Note an Imperial with a face (!) in the second picture. A rare sight. In the third picture on the right side Filoni managed to squish a picture of someone riding a wolf. And look out of the window! It's a planet we haven't seen in a long time!

TIE Inerceptors with red stripes (are back) attacking a Rebel transport:

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Firstly your picture / comment about Dark Troopers.

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They *** ruined Dark Troopers now, they better NOT count their combat capabilities in this *** show as what their final capabilities are otherwise they, LFL, just *** all over Dark Troopers ever being a credible threat *** EVER.

The final MOTHER *** PRODUCT WAS BASICALLY A DARKSIDE FORCE USING ENGINEERED BEING HALO SPARTAN THAT HAD AN ADVANCED SUPER DURABLE DEADLY POWER ARMOR AND WEAPONS THAT COULD FIGHT ON EVEN AFTER THE GUY IN IT SOMEHOW DIED OR GOT OUT OF THE *** SUIT.

WHEN THE *** SUITS WERE *** JUST DROIDS AND OR PROTOYPES THEY ENDED UP GETING A KILL DEATH RATIO OF 3,300 - 5,500 TO 0 IN A COUPLE MINUTES OF BATTLE. THEY ARE DEPICTED EASILY SHOOTING THROUGH AT THE VERY LEAST 5 FEET OF STEEL AND MAKING A 4 FOOT WIDE HOLE, WITH JUST A *** SINGLE PLASMA SHELL. ONE BOARDED A MON CAL CRUISER, KILLING EVERYONE ABOARD, IT DID THIS BEFORE IT COULD ESCAPE INTO HYPERSPACE. IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST SHOT THROUGH 20 FEET OF STEEL. WE CALCULATED THE PLASMA SHELL BEAMS AS DELIVERING "SEVERAL THOUSAND KG OF FORCE."

OH BUT WHAT WILL IT BE IN THE MOTHER *** REBELS SHOW, A KILL DEATH RATIO OF NEGATIVE FIVE THOUSAND AND THEY WILL PROJECT ENERGY BEAMS NO *** GREATER THAN WHAT A HANDHELD HAIR DRYER PRODUCES IN FIVE *** MINUTES

THEY BETTER NOT *** BE *** DARK TROOPERS, THEY BETTER NOT BE DARK TROOPERS! On a side note... They just added Imperial Driods that look very similar to these guys in Star Wars Uprising, except they just have one big red cyclopse eye, they better be the same *** THING!

2nd THING -_- "Thrawn... Hes not my favorite character, I like every other Grand Admiral more than him, some even pawn Thrawn and or have done more amazing things than him yet get no love.

That being *** said, him being put on the show was a cruel joke for him. Hes going to be incompetent, just like what they did to Vader, SINCE NOT ONE OF THE *** CREW IS ALLOWED TO DIE OR *** LOSE. JUST LIKE I SAID WITH VADER, IF HE CAN'T BE ALLOWED TO JUST *** KILL THE MAIN CHARACTERS DON'T PUT HIM IN THE SAME STORY UNLESS HE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MAIN CHARACTERS.

*** He probably *** loses to them so hard that he gets sent to the unknown parts of space, they did say he was a disgrace to the empire in the Fel X-Wing comics and that was why he was sent away, guess we get to see the cause of him being a disgrace... *** REBELS MAIN CHARACTERS > :(

THANKS FOR RUINING THE CREDIBILITY OF THE GRAND ADMIRALS IN THE EMPIRE.

3rd THING. *** 181ST TIE INTERCEPTORS IN REBELS. " *** 181ST TIE INTERCEPTOR ACE PILOTS IN STAR WARS MOTHER *** REBELS!

GOOD JOB DISNEY, GOOD JOB LFL. I had worried you were going to *** Baron Fel, make him a loser, which you kinda did if the Baron we got is supposed to really be him, the one that is always *** HAVING ACCIDENTS AND LOSING LEFT AND RIGHT! THESE GUYS AND GALS ARE ONE OF THE MOST *** ELITE PILOTS IN THE EMPIRE, FLYING SOME OF THE BEST FIGHTERS IN SW, THE BEST DOG-FIGHTER IN STAR WARS, AND YOU HAD TO PUT THEM IN YOUR *** MONKEY *** DIP *** SHOW WHERE YOU DEPICT ALL IMPERIALS, INCLUDING VADER, AS *** UPS. GOING BY YOUR *** TRACK RECORD YOUR GOING TO HAVE THEM FIGHT THEY *** GHOST AND *** LOSE WHEN IN FACT THEY ARE SHOWN DEALING WITH SHIPS LIKE THE *** GHOST AND *** BLASTING THEM INTO *** *** PIECES!

I *** HATE YOU DISNEY, I HOPE YOU *** GET WORMS EATING UNCURED CHICKEN AND THEY GET INTO YOUR BRAINS, AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE EXPENSIVE BRAIN SURGERY EVERY YEAR BECAUSE THEY KEEP MISSING WORM EGGS IN YOUR *** HEADS AND THEY GOTA SCRAP THEM OUT ALL THE *** TIME!

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HOLY CRAP WHERE DO I EVEN BEGIN

SCREAMING

SCREAMING IS A GOOD START

YES You scream, thats what you do when you see your friends are swimming dangerously *** close to sharks, and they are about to get eaten! THAT is exactly what LFL just did to DARK TROOPERS, TIE INTERCEPTORS, 181st, & THRAWN.

I am sure that guy above is on all kind of no fly lists already. :D

I am sure that guy above is on all kind of no fly lists already. :D

Hes just salty about his favourite mediocre Star Wars stories being replaced by new mediocre Star Wars stories and can't fathom that new stuff won't "unexist" the old things. If you enjoy the old stories, fine, nobody is taking that away, but taking a crap on new material that is crafted with the exact same love because its different is childish. More childish than Rebels has ever been.

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So I got the whole crew done this week... and it was a fun little project .

The Emotes are shown here at a two hundred percent increase of their original size; which is about half the size they are when I actually paint them.

We all show our love of STAR WARS in our own way, this is one of my favorites... then we get to play games with the models too! Thanks FFG!

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Fancy blown up postcard size.

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The actual size of the original art... they are emotes after all.

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Boss, where's Rex?

I am sure that guy above is on all kind of no fly lists already. :D

Hes just salty about his favourite mediocre Star Wars stories being replaced by new mediocre Star Wars stories and can't fathom that new stuff won't "unexist" the old things. If you enjoy the old stories, fine, nobody is taking that away, but taking a crap on new material that is crafted with the exact same love because its different is childish. More childish than Rebels has ever been.

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I'm not going to pretend I read the entire post above (all caps with frequent censoring is impossible for me to read). But the attitude is one I completely don't understand.

Unless something happened and you lost all of your legends video games, books, comics, etc. in a fire, all of those stories are still there for you to relive. Nothing can ruin them for you unless you let it. The stories they told were already finished, and one of the problems the EU ran into in developing new stories was that favorite characters became stretched too thin. If you have to keep telling stories that honored every aspect of that universe, eventually nothing the characters did ever seemed to matter, and there was no room for characters to develop and change. I loved so many of the stories in the EU. But I'd much rather see new stories that take the best aspects of those old ones and put new characters in those situations who have room to grow and develop and come into their own.

And as Admiral Deathrain said: all of these stories are mediocre in some way or another. If you nitpick any one of them they can look terrible. Not defending the prequels here, but if you tear apart the OT the same way you do the prequels, they don't look so hot either. Just sit back and enjoy the firing of your imagination. That's what Star Wars is all about.

Black Knight Leader is, how to say this... Like a Star Wars lore ayatollah. The lore is sacred, the lore is immutable. And if it contradicts itself at passages, he finds a way to make it look like those passage complements instead of contradict each other.

I do find a little bit inappropriate that they use a full Grand Admiral of the Navy to deal with a small cell of "terrorists and pirates". That is something that intelligence (Kallus), the Inquisition, or tops Vader (the guy that gets things done in the Empire) should take care of. Not a military strategist, that fits better at carrying out campaigns of conquest or military expansion, than as a policeman.

Vader, the Inquisitors, or Kallus are specialists at dealing with jedi, spies, and saboteurs. Thrawn, or the other grand admirals, should be more about moving taskforces and extending the Empire.Or researching and deploying new warmachines, or whatever. He is Napoleon, not a ninja.