STAR WARS: REBELS Discussion Thread!

By KCDodger, in X-Wing

Legends is canon with Disney Wars, it is secondary canon. Because Ben is Darth Caedus I can call him Darth Caedus all I like.

Given the amount of times it's been explicitly stated he's not a Sith...

Darth Caedus is Jacen Solo from the old canon. They're completely different characters. They share a gender, parents and force sensitivity and that's about it.

Legends is canon with Disney Wars, it is secondary canon.

No, it's not. There are no levels of canon: this was the purpose of the reset: everything after it is coherent and canonical. They wiped the slate clean save for the six films and Clone Wars. While they're using the old EU as a sourcebook of material none of it is canon until reused in a new canon source.

Getting hostile ehh? First point, not my problem, Second point not my problem. Third point I wasn't talking about Zombies, I was talking about Sith Spirits. We see them in the shows and other mediums all the time.

Ps It think its against the rules to threaten people with legal action/s of any kind on this website. The underlined part looks like a Grove threat to me.

What I'm doing is strongly insinuating that you do not have insider knowledge on the plot of the eighth Star Wars film and are instead stating baseless speculation as fact.

It wasn't a conventional explosion? You wouldn't know how strong the concussive force was and any other after effects of said blast would you? For all we know, and I actually am sure of this, it was just a harmless release of force energy. Or at the least harmless in the immediate since.

You seem to be awfully confident of a lot of things you don't have a shred of basis for, and awfully sure of a lot of things where the only evidence contradicts you.

The explosion at the end of Twilight of the Apprentice physically destroys the ground around it.

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Or maybe the huge plumes of smoke billowing from the ground in the aftermath?

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WHY are you even responding to him B5? It's the same **** as always.

I personally think it is THE weakest offering from Marvel so far. I didn't overly enjoy the Leia and Lando series but also didn't have trouble finding the motivation to read them

I liked Lando, didn't like Leia.

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I personally see anything prequel set as (assuming it's good) salvaging that era. OT content builds on something that was good already, PT content salvages and improves something with potential that was poorly executed.

Yeah, I can see that. But I still can't force myself to be interested for some reason.

I'm not even reading the new Obi-wan & Anakin book.

You should

It is a super neato setting in those comics

And also features some grade A sheev action

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I personally see anything prequel set as (assuming it's good) salvaging that era. OT content builds on something that was good already, PT content salvages and improves something with potential that was poorly executed.

Yeah, I can see that. But I still can't force myself to be interested for some reason.

I'm not even reading the new Obi-wan & Anakin book.

You should

It is a super neato setting in those comics

And also features some grade A sheev action

Taste is such a funny thing - enjoyed the Palpatine scenes in this issue but thought the setting and overall plot was very weak. Glad someone's enjoying it!

I personally see anything prequel set as (assuming it's good) salvaging that era. OT content builds on something that was good already, PT content salvages and improves something with potential that was poorly executed.

Yeah, I can see that. But I still can't force myself to be interested for some reason.

I'm not even reading the new Obi-wan & Anakin book.

You should

It is a super neato setting in those comics

And also features some grade A sheev action

Taste is such a funny thing - enjoyed the Palpatine scenes in this issue but thought the setting and overall plot was very weak. Glad someone's enjoying it!

I liked it because it had a fantasy sort of feel and yet I never found myself thinking it was not star warsy

I like star wars when it gets weird

It wasn't a conventional explosion? You wouldn't know how strong the concussive force was and any other after effects of said blast would you? For all we know, and I actually am sure of this, it was just a harmless release of force energy. Or at the least harmless in the immediate since.

http://m.ign.com/articles/2016/03/31/star-wars-rebels-dave-filoni-on-ahsokas-fate-mauls-return-and-much-more

This is an IGN interview with Dave Filoni, the Co-creator of Rebels. Towards the end he discusses the explosion, and the nature of the Sith weapon. It apparently turns people to stone, hence all the petrified Jedi. He even mentions in the extended scene, the Eighth Brother, doesn't die from his fall, but subsequently gets turned to stone.

That explosion sounds pretty harmful to me.

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Well for those that watch other animations like RWBY well that turned dark.

:( I accidentally trolled a fan who was playing GoT 2nd ed LCG. Told her that the two stories ended up having a lot of common. I didn't tell her who though I didn't want to spoil it. :unsure:

Penny gets destroyed

Yang loses an Arm

Cinder finishes her job in killing the Fall Maiden absorbing all her powers

Phyrra Nikos is also killed off

So brings up a question, Rebels, who should be gone from the cast and how?

Going into season three I don't see much potential in kiling off any of the cast, yet. We'll see when new arcs start and new conflicts are revealed.

I love discussions of lightsabers and what is and is not practical.

This is Star Wars, folks. "Practical" rarely, if ever, enters into it.

Lightsabers: Cool. Practical as a cutting tool. Not very practical as a weapon - especially not for a group of peace-loving space monks who should probably be using mostly blasters set for stun. But everybody loves them.

Double-bladed lightsabers: Cool. Not practical. At all. Unless you're only using one blade at a time. In which case... yeah. But everybody loves them.

Reverse grip twin lightsabers: Cool. Not practical. But half of everybody hates them.

Triple-bladed or "longsword" lightsabers: Cool. More practical as a fighting weapon than any of the other lightsabers mentioned. But half of everybody hates them.

Nevermind the WWII-era GPMG-sized blaster rifles - which are never shown to have any benefits over the assault rifle-sized blaster rifles, nevermind the second generation SMG-sized blaster rifles.

See also: Death Stars, Starkillers, AT-ATs, TIE Fighters (virtually all of them), X-Wings, Z-95s, &c., &c., &c.

Point being: It doesn't matter whether it's practical or not. You want practical, you can incorporate that into your RPGs and you can choose not to use the less practical starfighters in your games of X-Wing. But ultimately, Star Wars is about what looks cool and works for the story.

Get on board everyone.

http://nothingcooler.com/2016/04/04/fencing-about-get-whole-lot-cooler-thanks-new-technology/

I personally see anything prequel set as (assuming it's good) salvaging that era. OT content builds on something that was good already, PT content salvages and improves something with potential that was poorly executed.

Yeah, I can see that. But I still can't force myself to be interested for some reason.

I'm not even reading the new Obi-wan & Anakin book.

I'm getting and reading everything, but the new Obi-wan and Anakin books are not the best. I'm thinking part of it is the style of artwork. I just don't like it, to be honest.

Is it worse than Princess Leia? Ugh....I didn't care for that one. I don't know. It's hard to spend that much energy trying to sort out which is the worst of too bad comics.

I didn't mind the flash back aspect of Kannan. At least it meant they could jump to about any time and discuss stuff. I thought the plot was cool and I really liked it. I also dug the style of writing, too.

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Going into season three I don't see much potential in kiling off any of the cast, yet. We'll see when new arcs start and new conflicts are revealed.

Rebels Season 3 Final:

Jarrus kills Vaders Apprentice Ahsoka, Tano kills Kanan and Ezra 'Starkiller' Bridger becomes Vader's new Apprentice.

End of Rebels, start of a new Series with an adult Sith Bridger, who gets killed in an Epic Battle against the emperor on Byss.

A man can dream ;-=

I didn't like TFU enough that I would be interested in elements returning. That game was almost unplayable...

I didn't like TFU enough that I would be interested in elements returning. That game was almost unplayable...

I never even played TFU :D

But the basic idea of the rule of two, as seen in ESB, ROTJ, TCW 'The Lawless' and all the other clone wars episodes that deal with the relation of Docu, Palpatine and the apprentices doku is taking. It really is an interesting dynamic within the sith order. Vader for sure IS seeking for an apprentice to kick Palpatine's ass. Not only is this the way of the Sith, but it is as well in Skywalker's nature to try to come out on top.

Vader for sure IS seeking for an apprentice to kick Palpatine's ass. Not only is this the way of the Sith, but it is as well in Skywalker's nature to try to come out on top.

Vader's not much of a creature of ambition at that point though, he's a broken man who's lost everything but his rage. He's the Emperor's dog. Note how he's not taken that seriously by Imperial High Command in ANH. It's not until ESB that he's second only to Palpatine in Imperial power and everyone is terrified of him.

What happens between those two? He finds out about Luke. That's what turns him against Palpatine and rekindles his ambition, House of Cards style.

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It really depends on the source. For the new canon, they are seeming to play it as Vader has no interest in overthrowing the Emperor until Luke.

Vader for sure IS seeking for an apprentice to kick Palpatine's ass. Not only is this the way of the Sith, but it is as well in Skywalker's nature to try to come out on top.

Vader's not much of a creature of ambition at that point though, he's a broken man who's lost everything but his rage. He's the Emperor's dog. Note how he's not taken that seriously by Imperial High Command in ANH. It's not until ESB that he's second only to Palpatine in Imperial power and everyone is terrified of him.

What happens between those two? He finds out about Luke. That's what turns him against Palpatine and rekindles his ambition, House of Cards style.

Disagree on that, Tarkin and Vader are old acquaintance from the clone wars and is obvious not afraid of his old war buddy, and most people in the room are not surprised at all that Vader nearly kills one of the commanding officers. Vader is full of rage in ANH already, he literally lost control when he kills Antilles, in similar ways how Anakin nearly is losing it when he interrogatives people in the later seasons of tcw. Unlike in clone wars he literally overdoes it and downright snaps the neck of his prisoner.

Rebels establish this even more with Ezra commenting on Vader that he never felt so much Fear, Anger and Hate before. Vader still cares, Vader sill cares for Ahsoka as well, you can see it in his eye in Rebels. He does not seem broken to me. What he seems is like an Anakin Skywalker who lost the offensive. Someone who deeply hates his position without the means to change that. It still makes him the emperors leap dog, but not a broken man.

Yeah, I'm not exactly "cares for" is what I got from the look he gave Ahsoka...

Conflicted, Sad, Angry are what I got out of it, when is mask did break.

I did not say he wants to hug, cuddle her and make her Queen of the empire. You can kill someone you care for just fine.

He doesn't care for Ahsoka. He wants to destroy her because she represents his past, what he had and what he lost. You see a fleeting hesitation in his eyes when Ahsoka says she won't abandon him again, but the resolve to destroy her returns moments later.

This is all the hesitation we get:

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And it's rapidly replaced by aggression.

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The shame in his eye is so well done in that first gif.

Didn't his eyebrows get burnt off on Mustafar..?

But, seriously. Those are great shots.

Didn't his eyebrows get burnt off on Mustafar..?

But, seriously. Those are great shots.

Yeah, Pablo said that was done for artistic reasons and given how beautiful that scene was i'll say worth it

Didn't his eyebrows get burnt off on Mustafar..?

But, seriously. Those are great shots.

Yeah, Pablo said that was done for artistic reasons and given how beautiful that scene was i'll say worth it

Same.

Yeah, I'm not exactly "cares for" is what I got from the look he gave Ahsoka...

Sure he cares. He cares for MURDER.

Captain Lackwit, on 05 Apr 2016 - 3:03 PM, said:

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Didn't his eyebrows get burnt off on Mustafar..?

But, seriously. Those are great shots.

They're cyber eyebrows, painfully grafted to his skull by those horrible medbots from the end of Ep3.

Again, so he can murder.

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Didn't his eyebrows get burnt off on Mustafar..?

But, seriously. Those are great shots.

Yeah, Pablo said that was done for artistic reasons and given how beautiful that scene was i'll say worth it

Isn't it shadow?

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