Did I miss something? Where is Darth Maul in Rebels?

Still in two pieces and at the bottom of a deep whole.

It would've been awesome if they hadn't spoiled Maul in the trailer.

I never understood the R22/RZ1 thing apart from the A-wing being an excuse for a supposedly post yavin ship appearing in pre yavin media (Xwing, Droids).

Now that there is no canon to state that it's post yavin, there is no canon required for it to be split into two sub-ships.

Well, WEG decided that the A-wing was a super special fighter designed by General Dadona to better combat TIE Fighters (and at the same time the empire made the TIE interceptor to better combat X-wings which were supposed to be really good at killing TIEs, but whatever). They have the A-wing it's RZ-1 designation, which was much less imaginative than T-65,47, 16, ect., pretty much making the A-wing a special prototype that entered into limited production by the Rebels. All the sudden the rebels had a back story for the OT that, along with the X-wing also being a special ex-imperial fighter, but now the Alliance had the ability to actually manufacture starfighters. All this of course ignored Brian Daly's radio drama that implied the X and Y wings at Yavin were around 20 years old (either the design of the ships themselves) and he A and B-wings appearances in Droids, set about 5 years pre Yavin.

Needless to say I didn't like WEG butchering of actual pre established lore to better fit some made up view of the OT.

Anyway, years later when continuity was a big concern we have SW.com coming up with the R-22 Spearhead as an 'early' a-wing lookalike that Dadonna used to model his A-wing after, to explain the Droids 'error'. I just wish the current cannon had abolished the RZ-1 and just used R-22, but looks like we are stuck with he more unlikely designation.

It would've been awesome if they hadn't spoiled Maul in the trailer.

Who says that's maul? It could be anyone under that cloak.

Who just happens to look just like maul.

Watching this clip got me thinking as to who Sabine's mother is. My guess is it's Bo-Katan Kryse.

That would be the obvious answer, yes.

I missed Darth Maul...

Where is it?

Old Master.

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Might want the right trailer.

Does it bother anyone else that Ezra and Leia are supposed to be the same age, but Leia looks like she's 24 in the show and not 14?

She is very small in the show, but has a mature voice (and behavior). She could be, like, 16.

Same age as Ezra, minus a day or two.

In the old EU she became a senator at 16. I guess ol' Jimmy Smits retired then. She is probably a representative in rebels currently, similar to Jar Jar was when Padme was running around shooting robots and getting knocked up.

(looks at Rebels character model again) Holy crap that's a mature-looking teenager. Given that Ezra looks (and acts) like he's 13, they either made Leia older than she should be or girls grow up VERY fast on Alderaan (or Ezra's a shrimp, and is going to grow up to be Star Wars' Danny Devito, but his folks look like good genetic stock). It's kind of a misstep on their part.

(looks at Rebels character model again) Holy crap that's a mature-looking teenager. Given that Ezra looks (and acts) like he's 13, they either made Leia older than she should be or girls grow up VERY fast on Alderaan (or Ezra's a shrimp, and is going to grow up to be Star Wars' Danny Devito, but his folks look like good genetic stock). It's kind of a misstep on their part.

Well, Danny Devito came from the same stock as Arnold Schwarzenegger, so who can say how genetics work.

That 'Twins' movie was a documentary, right? Right?

Seriously though, it's not uncommon for girls to mature earlier and faster than boys, and the (canon) Princess Leia comic makes clear that Bail and Breha pushed Leia hard to grow up and assume responsibilities, partly because she was the future queen and, I suspect, though it's just subtext, partly because Bail wanted to prepare her for what was to come.

I personnaly don't really like the Old Republic Era, it's weird how they have the same tech level and everything, some of the droids are even more advanced to!

I was more bothered since tales of the jedi did such a good job of interpreting what the galaxy far far away looked like an even longer time ago.

I don't understand how an interstellar civilization, even one that doesn't span the Galaxy, could last 20,000 years and not have godlike technology like the Asgard or other aliens from SG-1, given the commonly assumed advancement rate of technology. Screw cloning, they should be bringing people back from the dead.

In a galaxy with zillions of worlds at different stages of development, some go backwards, some stay static, and some move forwards. Tatooine was a craphole, but Camino was glitter tech. Different worlds, different rates, some lose, some gain. There really is no centralized Office of Stuff Development for Everybody, so you get this mixed bag of technology where stuff looks pretty and shiny, or it gets used until it's used up, then other parts get bolted onto it and it gets used for another hundred years. A lot of these worlds look like they were colonized and then just left alone. For example, Lothal got a bunch of prefab habs and then a big mushroom center (notice how they match the architecture of the White Wasteland Planet from the R2 squad cycle of Clone Wars?) and doesn't have much else. Tatooine less than that. Mangalore is a huge sprawling high-tech industroplex.

I personnaly don't really like the Old Republic Era, it's weird how they have the same tech level and everything, some of the droids are even more advanced to!

I was more bothered since tales of the jedi did such a good job of interpreting what the galaxy far far away looked like an even longer time ago.

I don't understand how an interstellar civilization, even one that doesn't span the Galaxy, could last 20,000 years and not have godlike technology like the Asgard or other aliens from SG-1, given the commonly assumed advancement rate of technology. Screw cloning, they should be bringing people back from the dead.

In a galaxy with zillions of worlds at different stages of development, some go backwards, some stay static, and some move forwards. Tatooine was a craphole, but Camino was glitter tech. Different worlds, different rates, some lose, some gain. There really is no centralized Office of Stuff Development for Everybody, so you get this mixed bag of technology where stuff looks pretty and shiny, or it gets used until it's used up, then other parts get bolted onto it and it gets used for another hundred years. A lot of these worlds look like they were colonized and then just left alone. For example, Lothal got a bunch of prefab habs and then a big mushroom center (notice how they match the architecture of the White Wasteland Planet from the R2 squad cycle of Clone Wars?) and doesn't have much else. Tatooine less than that. Mangalore is a huge sprawling high-tech industroplex.

The novel Tarkin goes into some of the in-universe reasons behind this. Basically, the accumulation of power in the Core Systems led to the accumulation of all the money there, and the worlds in the mid-Rim and Outer Rim were left, essentially, to rot. It was a large part of the reason that so many outlying systems were willing to join Dooku's CIS.

Also, nothing we've seen implies that the tech curve in the Star Wars setting is advancing as sharply as the recent real world. They could be stuck in a period of technology stagnation, a greatly extended version of periods our own world has seen in the past.

2:20 mark.

There is a throwaway line in Darth Bane that the Jedi collected all of the galaxy's technical and medical knowledge on Coruscant (but did little to improve it). Most of the information was available to the public free of charge. The library included standardized schematics for computers, vehicles and most everyday products. So yeah, for almost a thousand years, everyone just copied what Space Rome was able to salvage, without bothering to make up something new. Just like Earth.

On the upside, this means that if FFG ever decides to do Clone Wars or Sith War stuff for X-Wing or Armada, those ships can still be competitive with GCW units.

(looks at Rebels character model again) Holy crap that's a mature-looking teenager. Given that Ezra looks (and acts) like he's 13, they either made Leia older than she should be or girls grow up VERY fast on Alderaan (or Ezra's a shrimp, and is going to grow up to be Star Wars' Danny Devito, but his folks look like good genetic stock). It's kind of a misstep on their part.

Well, Danny Devito came from the same stock as Arnold Schwarzenegger, so who can say how genetics work.

That 'Twins' movie was a documentary, right? Right?

Seriously though, it's not uncommon for girls to mature earlier and faster than boys, and the (canon) Princess Leia comic makes clear that Bail and Breha pushed Leia hard to grow up and assume responsibilities, partly because she was the future queen and, I suspect, though it's just subtext, partly because Bail wanted to prepare her for what was to come.

Hah! Twins....

Mature mentally, sure, but that much physically, though? Jeez, she was almost Fully Grown Leia. Her model should've been a bit more gangly if she was Ezra's age. That said, Ahsoka had a great big cube head, gangly body, and giant canoe lips as a kid during the CW series, and matured into a normally-proportioned female with a completely different facial structure. Go figure.

Leia, being 15, is basically mature physically. She should be about the height she was in ANH. Weight wise, though, depends on if she gets space-depo shots. Ezra will hit another growth spurt around 17 or 18 but probably will be alittle short for a Stormtrooper even when full grown. I guess most folks on here don't deal with teens or kids in general on a regular basis.

Today's issue of the Kanan comic series from marvel has some particularly interesting implications for tonight's episode.

ACTUAL SPOILERS

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I really like those Mando fighters. Hope FFG makes them. I think a stop maneuver is possible.

Good episode. Got worried about Hera for a moment. Good focus on Sabine, if not completely going into her backstory. Some interesting they recanonized.

My dad was really confused about the hyperspace wreckage bit.

But the Episode was pretty neato. I liked the whole Concord Dawn being fully canonized thing, what with how that planet was Jango's homeworld.

Jaster Mereel was a Journeyman Protector, and that Protector bit was fully brought into the canon today.

Complaints about ignored EU can stop, I think.

Even brought back Mandos training clones.

So after this episode, that's how many A-wings down now?

6 lost to vader, 2 lost during the run on that blockade, however many may have been in that "missing patrol" captured by the interdictor, that one Ahsoka had to leave behind on Takobo, probably a few during the escape from Garel, 3 more after this episode, probably more over the rest of the season... That's over 12 A-wings lost during this season.

Clumsy Phoenix Squadron.

Plus Phoenix Home to Vader, one corvette to the blockade, and I haven't seen their third corvette in a while either.

^The mcquarrie corvette just showed up this episode despite disappearing from the fleet halfway through the season.

God, Phoenix Squadron is just...the worst.