1: The Old Republic was using wedge shaped vessels before the Empire so it was never an Imperial only design style in canon.
Are any of them pre-Clone Wars?
Yes.
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Is that ship Canon though?
The earliest point in Canon that I remember seeing wedge shaped ships is at the end of Attack of the Clones. Where you see the Clone Troopers marching of them.
A scene where you are CLEARLY supposed to be going "Star Destroyers, troopers that look like Stormtroopers, walkers, Imperial Death March is playing. The Republic is turning into the Empire!"
Edited by DarthEnderXIs that ship Canon though?
The earliest point in Canon that I remember seeing wedge shaped ships is at the end of Attack of the Clones. Where you see the Clone Troopers marching of them.
A scene where you are CLEARLY supposed to be going "Star Destroyers, troopers that look like Stormtroopers, walkers, Imperial Death March is playing. The Republic is turning into the Empire!"
Considering that so far there has only been a few flashback scenes from one novel and one movie pre-Clone Wars that is canon no there are currently no pre-Clone Wars Wedge shaped Republic designs that I know of. But there is also no proof that wedge shaped designs were a new idea.
Is that ship Canon though?
The earliest point in Canon that I remember seeing wedge shaped ships is at the end of Attack of the Clones. Where you see the Clone Troopers marching of them.
A scene where you are CLEARLY supposed to be going "Star Destroyers, troopers that look like Stormtroopers, walkers, Imperial Death March is playing. The Republic is turning into the Empire!"
Why yes. Yes, for all intents and purposes it is indeed canon.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Malachor Please note which Malachor page you are on.
Malachor V first appeared in STAR WARS: KNIGHTS OF THE OLD REPUBLIC II, THE SITH LORDS. (it really should have been called Echoes of The Force).
Malachor has been canonized by this!
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Force_Awakens:_The_Visual_Dictionary
It mentions that Kylo Ren's lightsaber design- with one with Quillons, dates back to The Great Scourge of Malachor.
Furthermore, both Taris and Rakata Prime, two locales from The KOTOR era, are confirmed canon. One of the Republic Senators was a Tarisian representative, and Rakata Prime is where The Rakatan Empire created a, hey, get this. Machine that harnessed the power of a sun directly to create vast armies. I hope that sounds at least vaguely familiar to you.
On top of these little facts, we have also seen relatives of The Old Republic's Hammerhead and Thranta classes in Star Wars: Rebels.
So in short...
Yes. We can generally assume content from the KOTOR series is canon until further notice, considering that much of the new preview from Rebels shows KOTOR related content- that TFA's new technologies reference or are inspired by technology from the KOTOR era, and that these things have been given, clearly, clearly explicit attention by The Story Group.
Any further questions?
That's the stance I'm taking as well. I'm basically consideringThe Old Republic stuff, Mandalorian Wars, Jedi-Sith War, Revan and Malak, all that 'ancient history' as canon until we see something that explicitly contradicts it. Otherwise, the whole SW setting suddenly loses its entire history bar a 100-odd year period that we have film/TV/new books for.
Edited by ParadigmPaintingThat's the stance I'm taking as well. I'm basically consideringThe Old Republic stuff, Mandalorian Wars, Jedi-Sith War, Revan and Malak, all that 'ancient history' as basically canon until we see something that explicitly contradicts it. Otherwise, the whole SW setting suddenly loses its entire history bar a 100-odd year period that we have film/TV/new books for.
And really, Disney has been paying extra special attention to KOTOR/SWTOR. Lest we forget that in the comics, they do openly advertise purchasing a Revan figurine.
If they didn't care about that, they'd just market Kylo instead.
That's the stance I'm taking as well. I'm basically consideringThe Old Republic stuff, Mandalorian Wars, Jedi-Sith War, Revan and Malak, all that 'ancient history' as canon until we see something that explicitly contradicts it. Otherwise, the whole SW setting suddenly loses its entire history bar a 100-odd year period that we have film/TV/new books for.
Well...um...sorry, but that's exactly what they did. You can take it however you like. But the people in charge of that stuff have said otherwise.
Yes. We can generally assume content from the KOTOR series is canon until further notice, considering that much of the new preview from Rebels shows KOTOR related content- that TFA's new technologies reference or are inspired by technology from the KOTOR era, and that these things have been given, clearly, clearly explicit attention by The Story Group.
No, no we can't.
It's super nice that they are drawing from those sources to make things Canon again, but they aren't Canon UNTIL they actually show up in a canon work.
Mentioning a planet that was in KotOR in a canon source doesn't make all of KotOR Canon, it makes THAT ONE PLANET Canon.
Okay.
Well just keep whining and finding reasons to complain. Meanwhile, find another thread to do it in. I'm tired of entertaining your ire.
But, but...
Mag pulse is in TFA, that means everything in TIE Fighter and all the other X-wing sims are canon now! That means Thrawn is canon during the height of the empire!
Right?
But, but...
Mag pulse is in TFA, that means everything in TIE Fighter and all the other X-wing sims are canon now! That means Thrawn is canon during the height of the empire!
Right?
It certainly lends credence to the idea that a multitude of things from X-Wing are canon.
We can assume they are until otherwise stated, since none of the events of the X-Wing series are post RoTJ.
It all depends on how you want to look at it. My approach approach is that this is all made up anyway, it's as much 'ours' as the fans as it is 'theirs', and I see no reason why one can't enjoy those stories and consider them a part of the universe. I for one would rather have 'unofficial' history to this imaginary setting than a whole lot of nothing while we wait to see the gaps filled in.
Meanwhile, find another thread to do it in.
I'm tired of entertaining your ire.
It certainly lends credence to the idea that a multitude of things from X-Wing are canon.
We can assume they are until otherwise stated
Edited by DarthEnderXIt all depends on how you want to look at it. My approach approach is that this is all made up anyway, it's as much 'ours' as the fans as it is 'theirs'
But.. Gunboat?
GUNBOAT!
GUNBOAT!!!!!!!!
No.Meanwhile, find another thread to do it in.
Then don't. It'll save you from being wrong.I'm tired of entertaining your ire.
It, in fact, lends credence to the idea that Mag Pulse missiles from X-Wing are Canon, and absolutely nothing else.It certainly lends credence to the idea that a multitude of things from X-Wing are canon.
If you don't mind being wrong, you can absolutely do that.We can assume they are until otherwise stated
That's a nice thought, but is completely contrary to the definition of Canon. Canon is never up to the fans to decide. That's what Fanon is.It all depends on how you want to look at it. My approach approach is that this is all made up anyway, it's as much 'ours' as the fans as it is 'theirs'
Much like your fanon that the Quasar should be Imperial.
Can we stop the canon talk. Lest we attract a certain someone's ramblings.
I still don't see how the Quasar Fire-class looks anything remotely Imperial. It is about as Imperial as the Liberty Mon Cal cruisers.
Moving onto Rebels, hopefully, really looking forward to the rest of the season. Looks to be plenty of fun action. Can't wait to see the new Inquisitor.
Much like your fanon that the Quasar should be Imperial.
The Quasar Fire being a Rebel ship is(at least once the episode airs) canon, but it's still super dumb.
Edited by DarthEnderXI still don't see how the Quasar Fire-class looks anything remotely Imperial. It is about as Imperial as the Liberty Mon Cal cruisers.
Correct, but at no point did I ever even TRY to suggest that it was Canon. Unlike you.Much like your fanon that the Quasar should be Imperial.
The Quasar Fire being a Rebel ship is dumb. But it's also(once the episode airs at least) Canon.
Disagree.I still don't see how the Quasar Fire-class looks anything remotely Imperial. It is about as Imperial as the Liberty Mon Cal cruisers.
Please stop posting in this topic.
Can we stop the canon talk. Lest we attract a certain someone's ramblings.
I still don't see how the Quasar Fire-class looks anything remotely Imperial. It is about as Imperial as the Liberty Mon Cal cruisers.
Moving onto Rebels, hopefully, really looking forward to the rest of the season. Looks to be plenty of fun action. Can't wait to see the new Inquisitor.
Same! It looks like a good second half!
Please stop posting in this topic.
If you want to control who can respond to a topic, I suggest you make your own forum.
Everyone has the right to post on this forum (until they're banned)
Just please try and keep on topic. those of us that have an interest in rebels are getting sick of thinking there are new relevant posts, only to find you guys still arguing over triangles
Everyone has the right to post on this forum (until they're banned)
Just please try and keep on topic. those of us that have an interest in rebels are getting sick of thinking there are new relevant posts, only to find you guys still arguing over triangles
As somebody in the middle of the argument even I think it's friggin ridiculous. Since when did The Empire patent Triangles?
It's always been a Rebel Carrier. FFS dude.
And I don't give a ****.
The fact that it's been that way for 20 years or whatever doesn't mean the guy that did it 20 years ago didn't **** it up.
Whoever the first person to draw this thing was, and decided to draw it to look like a goddamn star destroyer, ****ed it up. And 20 years passing doesn't magically mean they didn't **** it up.
So your logic is because many Imperial capital ships are wedge shaped no one else is allowed to have wedge shaped capital ship classes? You really think they should make a ship class known for being used by the rebellion, its allies, and its successor state imperial just because of its shape? That's insane.
No, it's called ****ing art design.
You should be able to tell immediately what faction a ship belongs to by how it looks.
It's like in Star Trek, if a ship is a giant disk with some tubes attached to it, you know it's a Federation ship.
is this a Rom?
It sure is.
The first one, even. But it's clearly Federation, right?
is this a Rom?
That looks nothing like a Space Knight!
The Wedge shape is given to a ship to maximize forward firepower and visibility when dealing with multiple gun platforms on a large capital ship. It's such a powerful configuration that some Corellian parents name their kids after this engineering technique in hopes that the power associated with the form will aid their child in their chose profession, which on Corellia is almost always pilot.