Like bacon and my stomach, two opposing forces destined to destroy each other in a huge battle.

Gross.

January 31 seems like a long, long way away.

In the meantime, there's a Rogue One rumor.

Rumor has it that Felicity Jones is playing Sabine Wren.

Not if this rumor is true.

http://comicbook.com/2016/01/05/felicity-jones-character-name-in-rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-pos/

Jim

Highly unlikely that her character is Boba's daughter. that character looks to be older than Luke Skywalker in ANH, and the film takes place before a new hope.

when Luke was born Boba was only about 12-13 years old, and remember he didn't have any genetic modifications, so no accelerated growth like the clonetroopers had.

(this actually holds for Sabine Wren as well.. since Sabine is a bit older than Ezra, and Ezra was born pretty much the same time as Luke was. (both were born on the day the Republic became the Empire) so Sabine would have been born before Boba even hit puberty..)

I don't get the Boba's Daughter thing.

as for her character maybe being named Lyra, I've got a lot of hand related jokes to get ready.

I don't get the Boba's Daughter thing.

as for her character maybe being named Lyra, I've got a lot of hand related jokes to get ready.

for some reason Boba Fett is super popular, and Fans are willing to grasp at straws to increase his role in the setting. plus the Lucas tendency to use "family drama" as plot has left the impression that every major character has to be related to some other major character by family ties. and since people for some reason think Boba Fett is a major character (despite his limited on screen appearances and even smaller importance to the actual plots of the films..)

personally i'm more interested in this fan-theory, since i could see that one working out, and would be more fun.

The chance of any Rebels characters, save Chopper, appearing in anything outside of rebels is slim to none. Most of the characters seem destined to die by the series finale go into exile never to be seen again. I doubt we will see both Rex and Asohka survive this season either.

My predictions:

Ahsoka: Killed by Vader

Rex: Killed by Vader

Kanan: sacrifices himself to save Ezra

Ezra: Turns to the dark side

Sabine: returns to bounty hunting or whatever. she lives

hera: she lives. does whatever.

Zeb: does whatever.

Agent Kallus: Killed by zeb.

Chopper: stays with Hera, whatever she ends up doing.

Sorry, I haven't watched a ton of Rebels, but, it's a very, very child friendly show. I find it highly unlikely they kill off that many key characters. I'd love it if they did though!

If you haven't watched a lot of Rebels, how can you say it's very, very child friendly?

What's up with this idea of "Child Friendly" anyway? I mean, past five pretty much everything that isn't X rated is pretty watchable for kids.

I don't get this idea that "kiddy" means friggin' Dora The Explorer or something. Why's not-kiddy always gotta' be death and grim and sad?

I don't get it. I legitimately do not get it.

If you haven't watched a lot of Rebels, how can you say it's very, very child friendly?

What's up with this idea of "Child Friendly" anyway? I mean, past five pretty much everything that isn't X rated is pretty watchable for kids.

I don't get this idea that "kiddy" means friggin' Dora The Explorer or something. Why's not-kiddy always gotta' be death and grim and sad?

I don't get it. I legitimately do not get it.

Sorry to offend?

I said I haven't watched a lot, not none at all.

I've seen enough to know that Sabine runs around and does crazy flips and such in between storm troopers who then say "Oh darn, she got us again!", and Ezra tends to whine about something that emulates the pains of having to grow up too fast that would be hard pressed to appeal to any viewer over the age of 15.

I'm not taking a stab at Rebels. It caters to its audience very well, and I enjoy it enough to put it on my DVR to watch when there is nothing else on. It's just shows like this are usually pretty formulaic, and I personally don't see a show like this taking deep dives like killing off key characters or having the main character turn into the enemy. But if it did, it would certainly get my attention. But I'm not their target audience, so I don't expect it to.

I dunno, last couple episodes were...pretty bleak. Like, "not kid friendly" at all . And I even sort of think the season 2 opener would be more than most kids would be comfortable handling.

It may be 'young adult'-friendly, but I wouldn't say kid -friendly, per se. And even being targeted at YA, the show doesn't really pull its punches when it wants to land an emotional scene.

So...yeah, I'd say it's a safe bet that Ahsoka and Rex won't survive the series. It's a lot harder to tell on the other characters, though.

I still think Ezra and Kanan need to die for Luke and the OT.

I think Kdubb's complaint is fairly valid. The show has certainly become better and less childish as it has progressed. So you can forgive someone that gave up on it early on for thinking that way.

Well it's a good thing we never had to see all those Jedi die or Anakin get mutilated in CW. I mean that would like totally destroy how child friendliness of the show!

(RIP Domino squad, Savage Oppress, Death Watch, Satine, ect. Good thing we didn't have any attachment to you, other wise that show wouldn't be child friendly)

The chance of any Rebels characters, save Chopper, appearing in anything outside of rebels is slim to none. Most of the characters seem destined to die by the series finale go into exile never to be seen again. I doubt we will see both Rex and Asohka survive this season either.

My predictions:

Ahsoka: Killed by Vader

Rex: Killed by Vader

Kanan: sacrifices himself to save Ezra

Ezra: Turns to the dark side

Sabine: returns to bounty hunting or whatever. she lives

hera: she lives. does whatever.

Zeb: does whatever.

Agent Kallus: Killed by zeb.

Chopper: stays with Hera, whatever she ends up doing.

Sorry, I haven't watched a ton of Rebels, but, it's a very, very child friendly show. I find it highly unlikely they kill off that many key characters. I'd love it if they did though!

They could, but it would have to mean something.

Most good child-friendly shows don't shy away from character death, but taking into account the intended audience you have to know beforehand what you want the death to mean.

Darth Vader's death demonstrated the classic and empathetic "It's never too late to do the right thing." theme. This is a theme that is very popular with the more idealist mindset that would be watching Star Wars in the first place, and ends Luke's "boy-to-man" character development with fatherly approval.

Ezra's story is and has been a much more generation-apropos "looking for family" story. At this point he has accrued a rather large "family" in the form of his Rebel compatriots. Brother/Zeb, sister/Sabine, space-mom/Hera, space-dad/Kanan, space-grandpa/Rex, space-dog/Chopper.

Given the themes and reasons behind the characters in relation to Ezra, I think that if they decide to kill a character for development, it is likely to either be Asoka or Hera.

Yes, I know. Please let me explain.

Chopper and Zeb are comic relief and are unlikely to die in a "kids show", because removing humor from most stories tends to make them very serious, and children will not react well to a lack of humor. (Neither will I for that matter.) There's also unfortunately not much development to be gained from their deaths.

Sabine is the main character for many of the younger female viewers (and some male), and is not going to die. Period. Kids feel invincible, and "Children sometimes die, and we must learn to deal with it." is not a theme that would hold much learning or appeal for a young audience.

I would say Kanan, but "Kill the father." is a bit tired as a trope right now, and without him or Asoka we're unlikely to get the Jedi training (read, self-control and discipline themes) that are a component of most good children's broadcasting. (It's a little funny, no? Good shows for children emphasize self-control and self-improvement, whereas most "adult" entertainment encourages one to "lose control", "give in to your anger", or "get wild". Probably just a coincidence.)

Asoka stands for the hero's hero. She is a role model for the entire cast, and an analogue for many heroes we have nowadays. Soldier, monk, pop-star and strong woman all rolled into one. Role models for everyone from any background. Killing her would force the entire cast to develop in various ways, Kanan and Ezra especially.

Hera is the mom, and the glue for the cast. Killing her would grieve Kanan, as well as bring the cast together. No specifics; the specifics are what change characters and depend highly on what kind of person the writers want the character to become.

So then, if they kill characters, that's who I think they will be, and that's why.

Relax, they have at least three more years before the show goes all Gatchman on us. I mean, besides Asohka getting killed by Ani this season.

Well it's a good thing we never had to see all those Jedi die or Anakin get mutilated in CW. I mean that would like totally destroy how child friendliness of the show!

(RIP Domino squad, Savage Oppress, Death Watch, Satine, ect. Good thing we didn't have any attachment to you, other wise that show wouldn't be child friendly)

That sarcasm here seems to imply that you think Clone Wars WAS child friendly. You're ridiculous if you think that.

The show reran on Adult Swim for Christssake.

Well it's a good thing we never had to see all those Jedi die or Anakin get mutilated in CW. I mean that would like totally destroy how child friendliness of the show!

(RIP Domino squad, Savage Oppress, Death Watch, Satine, ect. Good thing we didn't have any attachment to you, other wise that show wouldn't be child friendly)

That sarcasm here seems to imply that you think Clone Wars WAS child friendly. You're ridiculous if you think that.

The show reran on Adult Swim for Christssake.

really, tell me more... I know It got Dark and gritty (which was good) but... what?

Ok I want to say that many of you have brought up compelling arguments which have made me reconsider my position, most notably OneKelvin. Still not sure I see them killing off anyone from the main crew, but having Asoka ceremoniously sacrifice herself for the betterment of the team or galaxy as a whole would be fitting and have a solid moral behind it, helping young viewers understand that death does not have to be in vain.

Well it's a good thing we never had to see all those Jedi die or Anakin get mutilated in CW. I mean that would like totally destroy how child friendliness of the show!

(RIP Domino squad, Savage Oppress, Death Watch, Satine, ect. Good thing we didn't have any attachment to you, other wise that show wouldn't be child friendly)

That sarcasm here seems to imply that you think Clone Wars WAS child friendly. You're ridiculous if you think that.

The show reran on Adult Swim for Christssake.

I have no idea during what time either CW or Rebels runs but I guess they are both played in prime time. I do however remember CW being shown during the morning hours at one point on the weekend.

Anyway, if Rebels is kiddie fair but CW is said to be far less so, the. Why is this show being treated as a direct sequel with many of the same characters? Did the audience of CW somehow regress in he year or two between the airing of these shows?

Poor minister Tua. Poor bumbling Imperial Laurel and Harder loser guys. Poor off screen Lasats, you weren't as cute as baby wookiee. Poor Pheonix squadron. Too bad you died in a kids show instead of the much more mature CW, with witches and zombies.

That sarcasm here seems to imply that you think Clone Wars WAS child friendly. You're ridiculous if you think that.

The show reran on Adult Swim for Christssake.

really, tell me more... I know It got Dark and gritty (which was good) but... what?

Anyway, if Rebels is kiddie fair but CW is said to be far less so, the. Why is this show being treated as a direct sequel with many of the same characters?

Also, most of those Clone Wars elements were introduced much later in the show.

Again, I'm not saying the show is still bad and childish. It has gotten much better on both of those fronts.

I'm saying the show was bad and childish for MOST of the first season. And anyone that didn't keep watching until it actually got, you know...good, BECAUSE it was bad and childish for most of the first season, I'm not going to blame them.

Well it's a good thing we never had to see all those Jedi die or Anakin get mutilated in CW. I mean that would like totally destroy how child friendliness of the show!

(RIP Domino squad, Savage Oppress, Death Watch, Satine, ect. Good thing we didn't have any attachment to you, other wise that show wouldn't be child friendly)

The parts that really surprised me was;

One of the main character GOOD guys killing someone by stabbing him in the back. Even when a kid's show is willing to depict death, it is usually inflicted by the bad guys. With good guys they almost always go out of their way to have them capture the bad guys. Death is generally bad guy killing bad guy or bad guy killing good guy in a heroic sacrifice, and when a good guy DOES kill a bad guy, it is face to face in the heat of combat, not a moral dilemma/ sneak up on someone and stab them in the back.

and

An episode that involved kids, target demographic for the show kids, being encouraged by the main character kid to run around the woods murdering bad guy adults that they could just hide from

As an adult, I don't have a problem with with either of those situations as presented in the show, the the moral lines being drawn are a bit finer and more philosophical than you can generally expect pre-teens to be able to effectively process.

All that said, the depiction of death in kid's shows is a lot less restricted now than it used to be. i suspect a lot of people commenting on the "grim darkness" of CWs and Rebels are old enough to be thinking back to the outrageous hoops some of the best animated shows of the past had to jump through to avoid depicting death. I'm particularly thinking of Batman:The Animated Series (and the rest of the Tim-verse) that ALWAYS had to show the bad guys's parachute opening, or the thugs swimming for shore after getting thrown off the bridge or an authority figure going out of their way to mention they didn't find a body. Many shows don't have to do that anymore.

Keep in mind, Batman: TAS actually was able to use bullets in their show, which was pretty ground breaking for a kids cartoon at the time.

You can have mature storytelling without graphic death, which is where Clone Wars lost it's way.

And Rebels is as kiddy as the OT.

Sorry, I haven't watched a ton of Rebels, but, it's a very, very child friendly show. I find it highly unlikely they kill off that many key characters. I'd love it if they did though!

I wouldn't call it child friendly, its more Rebel centric and stupid most the time. It has some good moments but I think its full of annoying bad story telling, with a 3rd of the protagonists really being antagonists.

The Only episodes from Season one I really enjoyed were the ones with Tarkin.

The Only episodes from Season one I really enjoyed were the ones with Tarkin.

The Only episodes from Season one I really enjoyed were the ones with Tarkin.

Tarkin showing up was pretty much the point where Rebels grew the beard.

I personally think that the show got serious once the Inquisitor himself turned up (Season 1, Episode 5) and we could see a hologramm of a morally and emotionally broken Luminara Unduli walking to her execution chamber (and her frozen corpse thereafter).

I personally think that the show got serious once the Inquisitor himself turned up (Season 1, Episode 5) and we could see a hologramm of a morally and emotionally broken Luminara Unduli walking to her execution chamber (and her frozen corpse thereafter).

Growing the beard is about quality, not tone.