STAR WARS: REBELS Discussion Thread!

By KCDodger, in X-Wing

All I'm going to say is that there is a 99.9% probability that Disney and LFL have developed an internal Star Wars bible that is quite literally the encyclopedia of the galaxy, technology, life, the Force, and everything. And that history of the galaxy is going to already be established - at least in broad strokes - all the way out to Episode IX.

Meaning, in other words, that anything that anybody says here will have a less than 0.1% probability of having an impact on anything written for Star Wars canon - and the only reason why the probability is that high is because of rounding errors.

Find this bible. Bring it to me.

I will give you, literally, all of my money.

I would love to try but I'm pretty sure that corporate espionage is a crime and trespassing is also a crime, even in California, even today.

Might try asking Anonymous. Although they could probably just as easily steal all your (digital) money as hack into Disney/LFL's servers and pull a digitized version of the Star Wars bible. Assuming that it even exists in a digital format. And I'm sure there are watermarks and typographical differences in between the physical copies such that, should a writer leak one to the press, a friend, or the internet, they could easily be tracked down, fired, and then sued for violating whatever hellish NDA Disney's lawyers cook up for the people they allow to work on this stuff.

All I'm going to say is that there is a 99.9% probability that Disney and LFL have developed an internal Star Wars bible that is quite literally the encyclopedia of the galaxy, technology, life, the Force, and everything. And that history of the galaxy is going to already be established - at least in broad strokes - all the way out to Episode IX.

Meaning, in other words, that anything that anybody says here will have a less than 0.1% probability of having an impact on anything written for Star Wars canon - and the only reason why the probability is that high is because of rounding errors.

ETA: And if we're lucky, LFL and Disney might eventually publish a watered-down version of this bible as a technical manual, a history of the galaxy, or something similar.

Pretty much guarantee a 'bible' of some sort will be released at some point for existing new canon. Been plenty of encyclopaedia type releases for Star Wars in the past and I doubt that will stop for new canon.

As to the chance of anything we say impacting things.. Well of course. Less than 0.1%? Much much less than that I reckon. If in 6 months to a year we see the Ghost lead in a mixed squad of A's, Y's and Z's I'm not gonna think I made it happen lol. I just like chatting about what I've seen and what I'd like to see. Id love a peek inside the mind of anyone that thinks anything we post here or elsewhere effects anything at all. Be good for a chuckle.

Yeah, Gravity Wells have definitely been drastically expanded upon from their original EU lore.

It used to only be for pulling ships out of hyperspace and preventing them from jumping to hyperspace.

Now it can just do anything that gravity can do. So that scene in the TIE Fighter anime where the Interdictor makes that salvo of torpedoes veer away is totally legit now.

That Anime is.... the best.

All I'm going to say is that there is a 99.9% probability that Disney and LFL have developed an internal Star Wars bible that is quite literally the encyclopedia of the galaxy, technology, life, the Force, and everything. And that history of the galaxy is going to already be established - at least in broad strokes - all the way out to Episode IX.

Meaning, in other words, that anything that anybody says here will have a less than 0.1% probability of having an impact on anything written for Star Wars canon - and the only reason why the probability is that high is because of rounding errors.

ETA: And if we're lucky, LFL and Disney might eventually publish a watered-down version of this bible as a technical manual, a history of the galaxy, or something similar.

They don't have a dedicated resource like that. There is the LFL story committee to keep things in check now.

In the past there was an internal resource known as the holocrom that WAS that comprehensive.

And there will be one again, that has room for error.

These guys know exactly what they're doing.

Yeah, Gravity Wells have definitely been drastically expanded upon from their original EU lore.

It used to only be for pulling ships out of hyperspace and preventing them from jumping to hyperspace.

Now it can just do anything that gravity can do. So that scene in the TIE Fighter anime where the Interdictor makes that salvo of torpedoes veer away is totally legit now.

I remember a scene in the X-Wing: Solo Command novel where an Interdictor used its gravity well projectors to push itself away from an incoming enemy force though it was mentioned that doing so was probably rough on both ship and crew.

Happy 100th Page! :) :lol: :D

Edited by OneKelvin

Happy 100th Page! :) :lol: :D

And only half of it is actually about Rebels. >_>

Happy 100th Page! :) :lol: :D

And only half of it is actually about Rebels. >_>

You are correct, but at least that's the GOOD half ;)

I'm just glad they are not doing the "see the next episode early on watchdisneyxd" thing anymore

that was weird

Happy 100th Page! :) :lol: :D

And only half of it is actually about Rebels. >_>

You are correct, but at least that's the GOOD half ;)

This is true!

I'm just glad they are not doing the "see the next episode early on watchdisneyxd" thing anymore

that was weird

It was.

Happy 100th Page! :) :lol: :D

And only half of it is actually about Rebels. >_>

You are correct, but at least that's the GOOD half ;)

Took the words right out of my mouth. ^_^

^This is correct, however the "making weapons out of it" thing is entirely 343 dross.

In 1–3 at least, the projector equipment was always shown as relatively bulky, even for smaller static forms.

Exactly.

Yeah I kinda figured that forerunner tech = Covvie weapons. Look at Halo CE's plasma pulse temple things from the 2nd mission. This said, until after Halo3 Humanity were the reclaimers, and Humanity were the forerunners.

And you'd be exactly right. Covenant Weapons truly are just re-cased Forerunner weapons.

Forerunner trilogy is post-Bungie, and is responsible for utterly ruining the Flood, so I wouldn't pay any attention to it.

And you have, once again, earned quite a bit of respect from me.

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You know what, oneKelvin you have a point. It's basically how 40K treats canon, for better or worse but... it's a valid point.

I suspect I'm never going to like Blood Sisters, because of the outrageous stupidity of that scene but at least that makes partial sense.

Except for you know, the overly compassionate stormtroopers.

That's kind of silly.

On BKL: Nope. There is never an excuse for ponies in an SW thread. BSG and Halo can at least be compared to the source material, as can 40K - god knows I do that enough. BSG, Halo, 40k, Mass Effect, aliens, Star wars, Star Trek, Dune... Hell even Firefly, they all fall under that huge sci-fi/fantasy banner, and a lot of them share roots, ideas, theory, styles etc.

The best thing you can do with personal attacks is just ignore, personally I think we should all put that behind us, because this community kicks so much ass, we can all kick ass together. I find your views on canon frustrating, and I find background weapons and handwave explanations used in both primary canon equally frustrating to downright silly. Superduper imperial lasers not only included but used as specific example, as well as deathstarB-wings.

On The topic drifting away from Rebels: Aliens, 40k and Star Wars for example all have that used, worn in universe for example.

BSG and Star Wars famously have the link of Ralph Macquarrie, that same used universe, that same era when it came out(the original that is). Mass Effect and BSG(reboot) I also find very comparative, only this more so for philosophy etc.

Halo, I still play new Halo games. I did not like 4 and 5 half as much as I liked 3 and reach. I've come to accept this is how i'll feel about 6 as well. Halo takes a lot off of star wars, Aliens and 40K.

Aliens... product of the same era as the star wars trilogy, and downright cool. Halo and 40K steal off this a lot.

Star Trek: 80's Marina Sirtis in Lycra. I don't need other reasons. Ok, fine, Star Trek is more of an example of opposites. Capital ship more so than starfighter/carrier combat, Exploration more than war, Body fitting lycra more than badass body-armour, Technobabble and science rather than handwave magic and fantasy.

To Sum. In discussing rebels I feel it sometimes necessary, even appropriate to discuss other sci fi series. The comparisons are worth it. It shows how Sci fi has evolved, both prior to and after the Star Wars OT. It shows where Rebels gets a lot of it's styling - Remember, Rebels is both a product of it's time and a product of the original design of SW. It's a true mash of 1970's and 2010's thinking. That's huge, huger than a lot of people here can grasp, the vast differences in society, philosophy, technology etc between two eras separated by 40 years is gigantic. That's why you see a lot of odd things cropping up in Nu Canon.

Edited by DariusAPB

To whit: an Asian female main character would have been inconceivable at a time when David Carradine played a Chinese shaolin monk on TV.

Sci-Fi as a genre is very forward thinking. The original Star Trek was incredibly cutting edge as the "Spock" was meant to be a woman. One of the first interracial kisses on TV etc. Sure, it plunders history for story ideas but then it can be argued that history repeats itself.

Star Wars can be noted as reactionary rather than visionary. It specifically does not look to our future, but to an imaginary past, much like Tolkien. It also never had clearly defined rules, and was left to a bunch of people to come up with ideas, with GL the oracle on everything. Later on, other people born into the Nu BSG era are wondering about sound in space, Newtonian physics and yet trying to make things work in a Star Wars fashion. What "rules" do TIE Fighters follow? You have to follow what happens onscreen. The 2 500g acceleration is meaningless (certain mecha anime come close). Star Wars always goes for effect over consistency, which is sort of why it's so good. B-Wing superlasers are going to be like potatoes in Middle Earth. There is just no good explanation for them.

Ezra's parents will be revealed in a future season as Inquisitors. Write that down.

T'would not surprise me in the least.

Ezra's parents will be revealed in a future season as Inquisitors. Write that down.

You heard it here first Folks!

Ezra's parents will be revealed in a future season as Inquisitors. Write that down.

We got a PROPHECY here. :blink:

Through the force, things you will see

Actually we have already seen Ezra's parents they used him as bait.

*Ducks and runs for cover.*

I really doubt that "possible future writers for SW" will take the advise of a nobody with horrible grammar and spelling.

If anything it's not that hard to feed source material to future writers as long as you have sources to back your edits or posts up.

I try to take it with a grain of salt; but not in an "I excuse this breach of common sense" way.

This is canon yes, but it's all being told from the Rebel's point of view: and it has probably been embellished to make them out as more innocent or heroic than they would be if it was done in live-action.

"I thought you said there were four-"

"Who's telling the story here!? It was just like I said: nine troopers. And a captain. A captain too."

Rebel operatives might not make the most reliable narrators. We've seen most of the main characters embellish stories they tell to each other; why not the one they tell us?

If that is the case the mando psycho they have on board the ghost ether never really blew imps up, or she does worse things like eat the imperials?

Find this bible. Bring it to me.

I will give you, literally, all of my money.

On BKL: Nope. There is never an excuse for ponies in an SW thread. BSG and Halo can at least be compared to the source material, as can 40K - god knows I do that enough. BSG, Halo, 40k, Mass Effect, aliens, Star wars, Star Trek, Dune... Hell even Firefly, they all fall under that huge sci-fi/fantasy banner, and a lot of them share roots, ideas, theory, styles etc.

The best thing you can do with personal attacks is just ignore, personally I think we should all put that behind us, because this community kicks so much ass, we can all kick ass together. I find your views on canon frustrating, and I find background weapons and handwave explanations used in both primary canon equally frustrating to downright silly. Superduper imperial lasers not only included but used as specific example, as well as deathstarB-wings.

On The topic drifting away from Rebels: Aliens, 40k and Star Wars for example all have that used, worn in universe for example.

BSG and Star Wars famously have the link of Ralph Macquarrie, that same used universe, that same era when it came out(the original that is). Mass Effect and BSG(reboot) I also find very comparative, only this more so for philosophy etc.

Halo, I still play new Halo games. I did not like 4 and 5 half as much as I liked 3 and reach. I've come to accept this is how i'll feel about 6 as well. Halo takes a lot off of star wars, Aliens and 40K.

Aliens... product of the same era as the star wars trilogy, and downright cool. Halo and 40K steal off this a lot.

To Sum. In discussing rebels I feel it sometimes necessary, even appropriate to discuss other sci fi series. The comparisons are worth it. It shows how Sci fi has evolved, both prior to and after the Star Wars OT. It shows where Rebels gets a lot of it's styling - Remember, Rebels is both a product of it's time and a product of the original design of SW. It's a true mash of 1970's and 2010's thinking. That's huge, huger than a lot of people here can grasp, the vast differences in society, philosophy, technology etc between two eras separated by 40 years is gigantic. That's why you see a lot of odd things cropping up in Nu Canon.

If we are talking out of universe comparisons for the most part mlp doesnt fit. In universe though it did crossover, for in universe discussions it fits more than most other fictional things. I have nothing else to say about that unless someone brings it up.

You might know this but 40k also recycled a important chunk of lore from transformers. The lore for unicorn is nearly identical to the lore for the ctan.

Anyway they better have some payoff that will justify what i have seen them, lfl, do with imps in this show. They dont treat imps like this in the comics, only thing i can think of is sidious manipulated the deployment of trooper that were not ready for active duty, and sent them to dangerous areas to die. He could be using footage of the battles involving these imps to really rally up the rest of the empire so they will be very blood thirsty towards rebs. Also less likely to join them since they would see footage of imps dying from overly aggressive rebs.

I kind of doubt it though.