The immobilizer-418 was supposed to have been built on a 'standard' cruiser hull, yet we never see the cruiser it was based on, just the Intereictor variant. I'm guessing those ships would have served a role much like escort frigates and the smaller 'cruisers' we've seen in rebels, only somewhat bigger. I can imagine some large gun emplacements where the gravity well generators are placed.

We do see the Vindicator in a couple of things. Not much though, also somehow the vindicator in old canon could carry 72 fighters, despite being a third the size of an Imperator.

Wait the Vindicator has appeared in canon? Where?

And regarding the Vindicator having 72 fighters in some configurations that is nothing. The class II Frigate was only one quarter the size of an Imperator but had six fighter squadrons, incredible firepower for its size and era along with defenses fitting a heavy cruiser more then a frigate, and a standard crew of almost 20,000 personnel, with Dreadnaughts being fifty percent larger and considered to have a very high crew to size ration with a standard crew of 16,000, plus a hyperdrive that was only rated for half the speed of standard warships in the Imperial era. I'm still trying to figure out how and why the Empire approved the design for production and what the WOTC approval board were high on the day they approved the statblock.

Looks like the producers are using the WEG Star Wars RPG as source material for the show. In the Rebels Recon video for this episode, when they were talking about the Interdictor, the Imperial Sourcebook for that RPG was mentioned as where they got the info for the ship.

Looks like the producers are using the WEG Star Wars RPG as source material for the show. In the Rebels Recon video for this episode, when they were talking about the Interdictor, the Imperial Sourcebook for that RPG was mentioned as where they got the info for the ship.

Pablo Hidalgo wrote half of those sourcebooks

Did the EU ever state if he Executor had gravity well projectors?

We really don't know the range of those things, but if an Immobilzer or two were part of Death Squadron at Hoth they may have been too close to the Ion cannon and got taken out early. I would assume any interdictors would have been prime targets.

Don't think so, though the Eclipse did.

My thought as far as the Immobilizers and Death Squadron is that the presence of the asteroid field made the use of gravity well projectors too hazardous to the fleet.

Looks like the producers are using the WEG Star Wars RPG as source material for the show. In the Rebels Recon video for this episode, when they were talking about the Interdictor, the Imperial Sourcebook for that RPG was mentioned as where they got the info for the ship.

I wonder if the Strike class cruiser, DP20, and possibly the Neutron Stars, Assault Frigate Is, and Star Galleons will show up eventually?

Ok... So my idea that armour makes the stun setting ineffective? Blown the hell away.

It is interesting to note that they do not identify the Interdictor here as an Immobilizer 418. We know the model exists five years after the formation of the empire (Tarkin), and this episode takes place ten years later. While they used Sabine to inform the rebels about the existence of the Interdictor, I can take that to mean the technology was discussed in general.

Scaling estimates I've seen based on its hangar bay fitting a corvette, have gotten a length on the order of 1300m - over twice the length of the Immobilizer as given in the old canon.

In Heir to the Jedi, we find that, while Immobilizers are still being used (it's a few weeks after ANH at most - when Luke encounters and destroys one with concussion missiles and seismic mines) production of them has ceased and the Empire is using Star Destroyer hulls instead as platforms for gravity well generators.

Maybe this is a prototype of the Interdictor Star Destroyer rather than an Immobilizer?

It could be an immobilizer prototype, and just made larger. Easy to fit all the gubbins where they need to be on a larger hull, the production model may have been made some 3-5 years later. (Keeping with oldcanon).

I saw someone mention that the ship mentioned in Tarkin isn't the ship we saw in this episode.

Ok... So my idea that armour makes the stun setting ineffective? Blown the hell away.

Ikr, they aren't helping stormtroopers reputation much in this show.

At least the stormtroopers HIT something this time... but yeah.

Stormtroopers are more like adorable puppies the evil terrorist scum are kicking, not faceless icons of a fascist brutal empire.

I will say I enjoyed this last episode - certainly a lot more than the previous. I like the interaction between Rex and Kanan a lot - but then I always have.

I liked the nod to Hera being the mom of the group too.

I really liked that Rex mentioned Cody.

Im sure all the Alderaan survivors were compensated as well.

Oh, absolutely. In plasma.

I thought BKL said it was hard light.

What is this "hard light" really?

We see bridges made out of it in Portal, and both bridges and weapons made out of it in Halo: how do you "harden" light?

Is it real genuine photons, or some other stuff?

Ask Arnold Rimmer, after series 3 of course.

Wasn't it season 6, in LEGION where he first got Hard Light?

The Empire was totalitarian and had fascist leanings. The armed forces were meant to evoke nazis as well. The Death Star was equivalent of a country nuking its own citizens. Reign of terror fits nicely with the description of Palpatine and his government.

Anyone who worked for the empire but was aware of the more awful things happening couldn't be too moral if they just went about their lives as normal. Not evil exactly but certainly. OT good. Signing up to fight and even die to restore freedom meant the rebels were definately the good guys.

Of course I love TIE Fighter and relished the chance to 'defend the empire' and fly beside Vader and the Emperor. 'Good' times. Sometimes it's fun to play the bad guy. But just play.

I think the empire is more like the Soviet union with splashes of imperial russian. They both were a non-religious government, all though imps could get away with some religious practices in public as long as they werent "using the force."

They both had a combination of deadly weapons and vehicles that were trained or built knowing they wouldnt last long, soviet medium tanks were not designed to be maintained. They also both had the most lethal high quality weapons, vehicles, infantary in the war. Soviet is 1-3 but definitely is-7, soviet battle ships of ww2, and soviet special forces, as appozed to at-ats, aa-at, ssd, storm commandos, imperial navy commandos.

The soviets and now russian republic have some of the most ma uverable and advanced fighters in the world. Better than what is currently used in the Americas.

SU are alot like ties especially avengers, defenders, and interceptors.

I bring up imperial russia because palpatine dresses exactly like one of ivan the mads enforcers.

The rebels on the other hand cant be all good since their troops ar3 depicted doing some dark things to imperials, or screaming things like, givevin to your anger and stuff like that.

Most of the best combatants in the alliance are just mercs fighting just for the fun of fighting. Renegade squadron is one force that immediately becomes a problem for the new republic. The also will side with other forces that are bad, but theirs a limit to who they will join.

Then you got proto reb alliance characters like the mando woman on this show that takes sport in killing imps "artistically" with her bombs. I am shocked shes even allowed to be a part of this group of rebels. At this point i wouldnt be surprised if they let Dr. Lector be the spectors inteargater, medic, and head cook.

Its no wonder you see sand trooper burning people alive, they probably had family that was blown up to make a Picasso rebel painting.

Im sure all the Alderaan survivors were compensated as well.

Oh, absolutely. In plasma.

I thought BKL said it was hard light.

A clone's review of stormtrooper armor starts to put a perspective on just how stormtrooper armor is in this new canon. Poor accuracy can be blamed on the helmet, which even Luke complains later "I can't see a thing....".

I wouldnt put much stock in his assessment of dark times era storm trooper armour. We see other clones complain how they are much better than storm troopers in every way. Said clone trooper was at kamnio at the time when they were creating terror troopers, a type of storm trooper that can be perfectly invisible and force teleport rapidly. I grantee just one is probably good enough to take out a clone trooper legion as long as they are not aware of it.

Also they show that storm trooper armour is better at protecting the user from hostile environments than clone trooper armour.

The reason we are seeing troopers having their armour pierced by weapons rebs are using is becausevthey are using really powerful anti-armour blaster weapons. Even then they have a limited range in thatbthey will be effective agianst standard storm trooper armour.

Just like in space, were the tech of ships is always evolving to adapt to ships having better guns, or better shields, or better armour, or better engines, or better sensor systems, or better stealth capabilties, ecm and eccm and so on. You got troops tryi g to ether get really powerful weapons that can blast through armour or troops trying to get even better armour that the newer armour piercing weapons cant handle. Its more a combination of both.

What is this "hard light" really?

We see bridges made out of it in Portal, and both bridges and weapons made out of it in Halo: how do you "harden" light?

Is it real genuine photons, or some other stuff?

I posted a link to a article about hard light in teal life. I cant post links right now but the link is in this topic and shouldnt be to far back.

[meine gott....almost 100 pages!]

Im sure all the Alderaan survivors were compensated as well.

Oh, absolutely. In plasma.

I thought BKL said it was hard light.

What is this "hard light" really?

We see bridges made out of it in Portal, and both bridges and weapons made out of it in Halo: how do you "harden" light?

Is it real genuine photons, or some other stuff?

Hey.

We don't refer to Halo 4 onwards as Halo.

Thank heavens for that, because 4 and 5 are no 2,3 and Reach...

Maybe 343Halo?

Ok... So my idea that armour makes the stun setting ineffective? Blown the hell away.

IIRC in the original noval for ANH it starts armor does not stop blaster fire see Liea literally blowing the head of the Sargent on the Tantive IV. Armor in Star Wars is mostly for near miss shrapnel protection. Blasters tend to explode what they hit.

Hard light has been in the Halo series since Halo. It's not called it directly in game but in the novel the Flood, which is the novelization of the game, hardlight is mentioned several times. Specifically the various bridges you activate during the game.

^This is correct, however the "making weapons out of it" thing is entirely 343 dross.

In 1 – 3 at least, the projector equipment was always shown as relatively bulky, even for smaller static forms.

Yeah I kinda figured that forerunner tech = Covvie weapons. Look at Halo CE's plasma pulse temple things from the 2nd mission. This said, until after Halo3 Humanity were the reclaimers, and Humanity were the forerunners.

I think there is some stuff about ships being built out of hard light in the forerunner trilogy but I didn't care enough for those books to really keep the details in mind. All that was really important to remember was Forerunners = dicks, precursors = sea scorpions, humans = devolved from a high tech civilization.

Forerunner trilogy is post-Bungie, and is responsible for utterly ruining the Flood, so I wouldn't pay any attention to it.