Well, there are some policer officers that talk people firmly to get on the ground and some that shoot unarmed suspects.

Though, I'm pretty sure it's been heavily hinted that Boba Fett was with the group and prominently the one that turned the Lars into crispy skeleton.

Canon source please.

No Canon yet, however:

Boba Fett was on Tatooine during this time due to The New Hope added footage is canon.

Darth Vader has in Canon hired Boba Fett twice now, once to find out the name of "The mysterious jedi" (Luke) and to capture Han Solo.

So, if Darth Vader lost a couple of droids on a large desert planet and was going to either trust his Stormtroopers to search an Entire planet, or hire Boba Fett, master tracker, I think he'd hired Boba. Boba works with the Stormies to track the Jawas and where the Jawas had been that day. They get to the farm, question Lars where the droids are hiding, they don't talk, Boba fries them.

Skip ahead to "Empire Strikes Back" where Vader has now seen the Lars farm and what happened to them, thus generating the line "No Disintegrations". Not Canon, but in my opinion, makes Boba all the more a ruthless hunter.

Not buying it. I wouldn't outsource a search for key information like that. Even if they didn't tell boba what the droids were carrying, the fact it could get out is too much of a risk.

Also, alternatively, Vader was still pissed...

But we are getting a little off topic.

Can someone justify the Stormtroopers NOT using deadly force on bounty-hunter-girl-whose-name-I've-already-forgotten when they surrounded her?

Anyone? At least we can look at theories that are semi likely.

I honestly do suspect Stun is mitigated by armour - it's the only way that scene could even partially make sense.

Boba wasn't working for the empire or even anywhere near the stormies searching the desert, he was chilling with Jabba and his crew, wanting a piece of the action when Jabba put out a bounty for Han. I doubt he could have been a part of the search and be in mos eisley at the same time, unless it was the real boba Fett at one of the locations.

The only time troopers wouldn't just shoot someone is when they need them prisoner and stun wouldn't work. Maybe these are local recruits and just not that smart or combat savvy. Bad writing?

This is why American TV series need fewer episodes per season, too much filler and too many writers.

But we are getting a little off topic.

Can someone justify the Stormtroopers NOT using deadly force on bounty-hunter-girl-whose-name-I've-already-forgotten when they surrounded her?

Anyone? At least we can look at theories that are semi likely.

I honestly do suspect Stun is mitigated by armour - it's the only way that scene could even partially make sense.

At least they put up a decent fight hand to hand with the new character. they actaully hit her!

I was hoping for an in universe reason... Bad writing is definitely it.

I like Rebels, it was a fun ep but that one was definitely a bad writing moment.

But we are getting a little off topic.

Can someone justify the Stormtroopers NOT using deadly force on bounty-hunter-girl-whose-name-I've-already-forgotten when they surrounded her?

Anyone? At least we can look at theories that are semi likely.

I honestly do suspect Stun is mitigated by armour - it's the only way that scene could even partially make sense.

At least they put up a decent fight hand to hand with the new character. they actaully hit her!

True, one managed to shoulder check her, and when missing with a gauntleted fist took the second to shake his hand.

Because that's really what you do in a fistfight. Even untrained civilians don't do this, even mall cops don't do this.

At least they managed to position each other that way that neither one of them would be in the sights of a comrade when they were holding her at bay.

And for the rest? Villain Ball!

Also I finally found a reason for why the Stormtroopers do the heavy lifting of garrison duty over normal imperial troops:

Them wearing fully enclosed helmets saves animation/development time...!

The smelliest recruits are automatically made to wear the completely enclosing armour uniform. No wonder Stormtroopers stink at everything!

Could you imagine how much better the show would be if Stormtroopers were actually a threat?

what if the Rebels had to just run when troopers come, and fight as a last resort.

I feel like stories are better when the bad guys are scary. Kids should gasp when stormtroopers are chasing rebels, not laugh.

Like Vader and the Inquisitors? Even Kallus has retained a bit of a threat.

The question is whether the mooks or the guys behind the mooks should be the bigger threat. And really, the Imperials have had decent showings recently.

Could you imagine how much better the show would be if Stormtroopers were actually a threat?

Yes because they were such a threat to the heroes in the movies...

Could you imagine how much better the show would be if Stormtroopers were actually a threat?

Yes because they were such a threat to the heroes in the movies...

At least in the movies it was only on a few occasions. the death star has an explanation. Endor.... not so much.

the death star has an explanation.

That's always been rather debatable. Yes, I know that Vader wanted them to get away, but that doesn't mean one or two of them couldn't get killed in the process.

They were pretty worthless on Tatooine and Bespin as well. In fact the only time Stormtroopers do anything meaningful is when they're fighting other mooks.

Even the victory on Hoth can be debated. It's not like the Rebel Alliance was actually trying to hold Hoth, they were simply trying to delay the Imperial forces long enough to escape. Getting an enemy to retreat when they're already in the process of doing so isn't much of a victory.

I will admit, Season 2 has been full of more camp than the latter half of season 1.

I will admit, Season 2 has been full of more camp than the latter half of season 1.

That's kinda typical... The light fluffy stuff helps to reset the tone after the more serious stuff at the end of a season, and then the 2nd half can start to have more drama.

I mean think about it. If season 2 started with the same tone as Siege of Lothal and went from there... By season 3 or so we'd be watching Star Wars: A Clockwork Orange.

Which was pretty much what was happening with Clone Wars.

^Now I feel like re-reading Shatterpoint for the second time this year.

Rule number one of Star Wars is that stormtroopers are great against grunts. Against characters important to the story they suck but that is true of villain minions in most fictional stories and has been true of Star Wars from the beginning.

It is funny how people poke fun at stormtroopers, when incopetant bad guys is a universal thing.

They probably just thought the characters were local troublemakers that would back down under pressure.

After an extended firefight? With several Stormtroopers wounded if not KIA?

No, sorry... no.

Nope.

Not a chance.

Not buying it.

This is a no sell.

That right there is breaking even the most tenuous suspension of disbelief.

I meant from BEFORE they startd shooting.

I'm not that dense.

the gas is no harder to push than the air that surrounds it

So...impossible for a person to do with kinetic force then, which is all a Force Push is.

Pushing gases around with kinetic force is precisely what every single fan ever made is explicitly designed to do...

For that matter, if you've ever cooled yourself by waving your hand to fan yourself - congratulations, you've pushed air using kinetic force. Considering that breathing requires pushing air using kinetic force, you quite literally wouldn't even survive if it wasn't possible for you to do that.

I'm kind of baffled where this idea that "kinetic force" can't push a gas came from.... what do they teach kids these days in science class?

I'm kind of baffled where this idea that "kinetic force" can't push a gas came from.... what do they teach kids these days in science class?

Now imagine that cloud is fire.

Force Push is not a ****ing fan. Nobody Force Pushes with multiple rotating planes of force creating airflow.

I'm kind of baffled where this idea that "kinetic force" can't push a gas came from.... what do they teach kids these days in science class?

Walk into a cloud of smoke and try and push it away with your hand.

Now imagine that cloud is fire.

Force Push is not a ****ing fan. Nobody Force Pushes with multiple rotating planes of force creating airflow.

You would likely fail as a Jedi or Sith. You're seriously limiting your perception of what the Force can and cannot do. The only limit to the Force is the limit you put on it. If Force telekinesis can be used for the wide variety of things we've already seen in The Clone Wars, using a concentrated push to launch a single target, or a massive wave to throw dozens of targets, lifting up a single target and throwing him like a ragdoll, ect, then what makes you so convinced that it can't be used to create a basic airflow? Especially when we've already seen Jedi use it to do so multiple times in The Clone Wars movie and show?