They probably just thought the characters were local troublemakers that would back down under pressure.

They probably just thought the characters were local troublemakers that would back down under pressure.

After an extended firefight? With several Stormtroopers wounded if not KIA?

No, sorry... no.

Nope.

Not a chance.

Not buying it.

This is a no sell.

That right there is breaking even the most tenuous suspension of disbelief.

The force is will made manifest.

That's cute..

Magick is the art and science of causing change to occur in conformity with will.

A fellow Leamingtonian (Royal Leamington Spar-ian?ite?) Aleister Crowley.

So, I noticed something on the last episode.

We can infer some things about the Stormtroopers.

A: They either have rules or moral standpoints about shooting first. They went purely to capture without any standing orders to do so, even though they for some reason didn't just stun.

They aren't the "they didn't listen, leave the burning corpses" fellows from Tattooine.

Now, I know Rebels is a kids show so killing be bad, but trying to justify it.

Well, there are some policer officers that talk people firmly to get on the ground and some that shoot unarmed suspects.

Though, I'm pretty sure it's been heavily hinted that Boba Fett was with the group and prominently the one that turned the Lars into crispy skeleton.

Well, there are some policer officers that talk people firmly to get on the ground and some that shoot unarmed suspects.

Though, I'm pretty sure it's been heavily hinted that Boba Fett was with the group and prominently the one that turned the Lars into crispy skeleton.

True, but that lends credence to Stormtroopers not even being indoctrinated and being literally grunts in armour.

Canon source please.

Canon source please.

There isn't one that I know of. The whole idea seems to come from people who don't want Stormtroopers to have been the ones who started them on fire.

Boba Fett would of had no reason to be looking for Luke period, let alone on Tatooine at that point in time. The only reason the Empire found Lars family was because of the Jawa's, which they found by following the tracks of the droids.

I actually found an article about it, and the whole thing is filled with supposition about why it wasn't the Empire, and wild guesses. There is nothing in canon to back up the idea.

Edit: The whole article comes off a bit as a Imperial apologists piece. The author is clearly trying to assert that the Empire isn't nearly as bad as they're supposed to be. Making claims that the Empire doesn't kill prisoners which flies directly in the face of the opening scene when Vader kills the captain. The only reason the Empire keeps anyone alive in the movies is because they want information or to use them as bait.

Stormtroopers are often made out to be the good guy, deathly afraid of taking a life. Rebels can sit there are murder like 10 Stormtroopers and the stormtroopers that survive will be like "Drop your weapon!" when eventually having them at gunpoint.

Seriously I'd like Joss Whedon to direct a show based on Stormtroopers, with Nathan Fillion being the lead.

Yeah they are certainly starting to appear tooo much that way.

Rebels single biggest problem in my opinion is that the baddies are looking too good, and the goodies are starting to look too bad.

Stormtroopers are supposed to be merciless icons of a corrupt oppressive marine. Not inept space cops, afraid of pulling the trigger first on an armed and armoured target who had just been at least partly responsible for the death/wounding of several of their fellows.

Sorry, even if "stun" doesn't work because of armour. Daisy would be at full auto and draining power cells. Hostile target would be DOWN.

Next time I am in my armour I am gonna have to kick a puppy or something.

(Except I can't as until I seriously trim the thigh plates, leg movement is at a bare minimum).

Yeah they are certainly starting to appear tooo much that way.

Rebels single biggest problem in my opinion is that the baddies are looking too good, and the goodies are starting to look too bad.

Stormtroopers are supposed to be merciless icons of a corrupt oppressive marine. Not inept space cops, afraid of pulling the trigger first on an armed and armoured target who had just been at least partly responsible for the death/wounding of several of their fellows.

Sorry, even if "stun" doesn't work because of armour. Daisy would be at full auto and draining power cells.

Next time I am in my armour I am gonna have to kick a puppy or something.

(Except I can't as until I seriously trim the thigh plates, leg movement is at a bare minimum).

Ouch. I salute you for your dedication and attempt to stay in character by kicking those obviously rabid and dangerous juvenile canines.

A: They either have rules or moral standpoints about shooting first. They went purely to capture without any standing orders to do so, even though they for some reason didn't just stun.

They aren't the "they didn't listen, leave the burning corpses" fellows from Tattooine.

This is clearly not the 501st.

Stormtroopers with their "don't do it.." attitude coming across as a bit too goodygoody.

The "don't do it" was when they surrounded her and hoped she wouldn't do anything aggressive so they wouldn't have to put them down.

Extremely uncharacteristic.

Nope. "Drop your weapon"

If she doesn't within like 2 seconds, Daisy, full auto.

Canon source please.

There isn't one that I know of. The whole idea seems to come from people who don't want Stormtroopers to have been the ones who started them on fire.Boba Fett would of had no reason to be looking for Luke period, let alone on Tatooine at that point in time. The only reason the Empire found Lars family was because of the Jawa's, which they found by following the tracks of the droids.I actually found an article about it, and the whole thing is filled with supposition about why it wasn't the Empire, and wild guesses. There is nothing in canon to back up the idea.

There's been some speculation that when the empire were questioning the Lars couple that the troops used disrupters similar to be ones used on the Lasats, but I don't know if those weapons leaves charred remains or destroy the bodies altogether. I guess it depends on the disrupter model and type of target.

Glad to see I wasn't the only one who thought that scene was ridiculous

The "don't do it" was when they surrounded her and hoped she wouldn't do anything aggressive so they wouldn't have to put them down.

Extremely uncharacteristic.

Nope. "Drop your weapon"

If she doesn't within like 2 seconds, Daisy, full auto.

As before, stun setting? Or, I dunno, using deadly force on an armed and dangerous individual.

Poor stormies.

Glad to see I wasn't the only one who thought that scene was ridiculous

Yeahhh It makes no sense.

In terms of making sense it was not a good episode. It was fun but...

Imperial cruiser being anything resembling close after detecting a reactor leak? Piss off. I'd at least warning shot.

So, I noticed something on the last episode.

We can infer some things about the Stormtroopers.

A: They either have rules or moral standpoints about shooting first. They went purely to capture without any standing orders to do so, even though they for some reason didn't just stun.

They aren't the "they didn't listen, leave the burning corpses" fellows from Tattooine.

Now, I know Rebels is a kids show so killing be bad, but trying to justify it.

I'm fairly certain that most of the Stormtroopers aren't killed when they're shot; Sabine took a blaster to the head and just got floored by it.

The armor always takes the hits because they're totally covered in it; the dropped troopers may just be knocked out or winded.

If , the troopers aren't dying as often as they seem to be, then it would make sense for them to take a more relaxed approach to confrontations.

The "Just a misunderstanding boys." line and the general behavior in this scene make a lot more sense if the troopers knew that no one died.

The "don't do it" was when they surrounded her and hoped she wouldn't do anything aggressive so they wouldn't have to put them down.

Extremely uncharacteristic.

Nope. "Drop your weapon"

If she doesn't within like 2 seconds, Daisy, full auto.

As before, stun setting? Or, I dunno, using deadly force on an armed and dangerous individual.

Poor stormies.

Well here's the thing.

I have to assume they wouldn't be using Stun because stun doesn't work against armour, or other handwavey excuse. so yes. Live rounds, at the very least 5 rounds rapid.

Honestly I'd probably empty the blaster into her after she was down. It's NOT unprecedented, right Aayla Secura fans?

As for Relaxed... Not that bloody relaxed, that'd still hurt like hell.

Rebels single biggest problem in my opinion is that the baddies are looking too good

^wow.

New ship, the trailer angle is practically the only one where it bears a passing resemblance to the Scurrg.

http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/star-wars-rebels/blood-sisters-trivia-gallery

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Banshee_(starship)

It's an unused concept for Asajj's ship from the Clone wars.

I love the trivia sections; I can see why they changed it but "wookiee meat" made me giggle.

Rebels single biggest problem in my opinion is that the baddies are looking too good

Really? Because that's the thing I love most about Star Wars: TIE Fighter. That everyone in the Empire isn't a rabid dog looking just looking for an excuse to tear something apart. Some of them are just people trying to restore peace and order throughout the galaxy. Putting an end to traitors, criminals and terrorists.

Ok, that's true too. That's actually a very very good point. But.

TIE Fighter is about the point of view of the Empire, it can be inferred that they really are doing justice, peace and order through their actions or it could be propaganda and you could be blasting civilians.

Rebels is in the POV of the rebels, supposedly mostly doing good things. I've said a few times on this thread that heroes are defined by their villains, the more epic the villain, the more epic the hero.

Right now the Rebels crew are at around the puppy kicking stage.

After all, if a target isn't a threat to anyone, why is it a target at all?

I'm fairly certain that most of the Stormtroopers aren't killed when they're shot; Sabine took a blaster to the head and just got floored by it.

The armor always takes the hits because they're totally covered in it; the dropped troopers may just be knocked out or winded.

If , the troopers aren't dying as often as they seem to be, then it would make sense for them to take a more relaxed approach to confrontations.

Yeah, we have evidence of armor actually working in the show. Though, the trooper Sabine shot point blank in the face is definitely dead.

There isn't one that I know of. The whole idea seems to come from people who don't want Stormtroopers to have been the ones who started them on fire.

Boba Fett would of had no reason to be looking for Luke period, let alone on Tatooine at that point in time. The only reason the Empire found Lars family was because of the Jawa's, which they found by following the tracks of the droids.

I actually found an article about it, and the whole thing is filled with supposition about why it wasn't the Empire, and wild guesses. There is nothing in canon to back up the idea.

Edit: The whole article comes off a bit as a Imperial apologists piece. The author is clearly trying to assert that the Empire isn't nearly as bad as they're supposed to be. Making claims that the Empire doesn't kill prisoners which flies directly in the face of the opening scene when Vader kills the captain. The only reason the Empire keeps anyone alive in the movies is because they want information or to use them as bait.

Donald Faison's stormtrooper is one of my favorite Robot Chicken characters.

Well, there are some policer officers that talk people firmly to get on the ground and some that shoot unarmed suspects.

Though, I'm pretty sure it's been heavily hinted that Boba Fett was with the group and prominently the one that turned the Lars into crispy skeleton.

Canon source please.

No Canon yet, however:

Boba Fett was on Tatooine during this time due to The New Hope added footage is canon.

Darth Vader has in Canon hired Boba Fett twice now, once to find out the name of "The mysterious jedi" (Luke) and to capture Han Solo.

So, if Darth Vader lost a couple of droids on a large desert planet and was going to either trust his Stormtroopers to search an Entire planet, or hire Boba Fett, master tracker, I think he'd hired Boba. Boba works with the Stormies to track the Jawas and where the Jawas had been that day. They get to the farm, question Lars where the droids are hiding, they don't talk, Boba fries them.

Skip ahead to "Empire Strikes Back" where Vader has now seen the Lars farm and what happened to them, thus generating the line "No Disintegrations". Not Canon, but in my opinion, makes Boba all the more a ruthless hunter.

Well, there are some policer officers that talk people firmly to get on the ground and some that shoot unarmed suspects.

Though, I'm pretty sure it's been heavily hinted that Boba Fett was with the group and prominently the one that turned the Lars into crispy skeleton.

Canon source please.

No Canon yet, however:

Boba Fett was on Tatooine during this time due to The New Hope added footage is canon.

Darth Vader has in Canon hired Boba Fett twice now, once to find out the name of "The mysterious jedi" (Luke) and to capture Han Solo.

So, if Darth Vader lost a couple of droids on a large desert planet and was going to either trust his Stormtroopers to search an Entire planet, or hire Boba Fett, master tracker, I think he'd hired Boba. Boba works with the Stormies to track the Jawas and where the Jawas had been that day. They get to the farm, question Lars where the droids are hiding, they don't talk, Boba fries them.

Skip ahead to "Empire Strikes Back" where Vader has now seen the Lars farm and what happened to them, thus generating the line "No Disintegrations". Not Canon, but in my opinion, makes Boba all the more a ruthless hunter.

But they weren't disintegrated, they were charred to the bone.

Also, the "No disintegrations" line was always meant to be a bit of dark humor in the script; if you hire a bounty hunter to catch a specific person and they bring back a pile of dust expecting you to pay them, that wouldn't be good.