Yup, the Kwisatz Haderach brought unity to the Force and destroyed the Emperor? Wait, which one am I talking about now...

Anyway, it ended badly for Paul, er Anakin Skywalker. And then his son turned all weird! *dramatic music*

Desert planet with a very used worn out look to it?

The emperors finest terror troops? The Sauda-troopers?

Or he was just in tune with the force, and knew he would win.

THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THE FORCE! It's not just space magic. It's the essence of the light side of the force. It's WHY they are space ninja-wizards who can dodge a blaster bolt like Kanan in the 1st ep of Rebels.(Sorry Rebels haters, you all have to admit that was cool).

The jedi mind trick as seen in star wars is basically the same as the Bene Gesserit voice from Dune (a real sci fi). Now, I will admit that the way Qui Gon uses it at times is questionable, but maybe he was intending on coming back later and repaying Watto? Qui Gon - like Anakin used the force with good intentions, the difference is that Anakin used it in aggression .

I am sure everyone can interpret the Jedi and Sith codes in different ways, myself I always preferred the Sith one (you might notice I tend to get aggressive when worked up).

Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me.

Vs

There is no emotion, there is peace.

There is no ignorance, there is knowledge.

There is no passion, there is serenity.

There is no death, there is the Force.

Now, that peaceful acceptance from the first line allows the jedi to basically become Christian Bale's character from Equilibrium (more accurate than neo, but fine, neo). So dodging bullets by literally a millimeter because a millimeter is all that is required. To be in tune with the greater universe around you and not necessarily seeing but sensing how things will go.

Compare to the dark side which is a lot less passive, where you are constantly forcing change. More importantly you are giving in to your emotions. Hey, let's revisit Dune again, remember the Gom Jabbar? Just saying...

Like I said, we don't know if Qui Gon was in tune with the force or if the Jedi were having their vision clouded even then by Palpatine. He may have just been operating on simple hunches, or he may have had a clear vision through the force that Anakin would win because...qui Gon was a secret sith all along! Dun dun DUN!

Oh and don't forget Dune wasn't the only influence as far as Classic sci fi novels went. The foundation trilogy and subsequent books were a heavy influence on Star Wars and Dune it seems.

Really can't focus on reading 80 pages but if this is still about the show, the episode I just watched seems to make remote controlled turrets on Imperial ships official, as per the Raider deck plans thread. Unless I was to tired to get what I was watching on the tv.

ANH potentially made remote control of capital ships guns can(n)on almost 40 years ago. That ISD Turbolaser crew that let the deoid's escape pod...escape...could have been watching a huge monitor screen instead of a window, allowing them to be anywhere on the ship.

Purple eyes and a Mohawk. Rebels is representing women for sure! I wonder if we'll ever see a woman who is dainty and/or demure. I mean, in the interests of diversity, are there any women in this universe who aren't badasses?

Alright guys, I have a theory, a Star Wars Rebels theory!

so there is this one Imperial officer guy (pic below) who is in a TON of episodes.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRddiik3vLx-UyySu9_ska9lUKYNzmqo6vTriOXPtoKBGlO-pOO

This guy right here!

I figured he just made his way around, until last night's episode.

I don't have a picture, but on the bridge of one of the cruisers, there were four of this guy! they all looked the same!

do you think they are clones? it would make sense, because unlike troopers, they would'nt need much training for these simple jobs.

Purple eyes and a Mohawk. Rebels is representing women for sure! I wonder if we'll ever see a woman who is dainty and/or demure. I mean, in the interests of diversity, are there any women in this universe who aren't badasses?

ROTS Padme.

Alright guys, I have a theory, a Star Wars Rebels theory!

so there is this one Imperial officer guy (pic below) who is in a TON of episodes.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRddiik3vLx-UyySu9_ska9lUKYNzmqo6vTriOXPtoKBGlO-pOO

This guy right here!

I figured he just made his way around, until last night's episode.

I don't have a picture, but on the bridge of one of the cruisers, there were four of this guy! they all looked the same!

do you think they are clones? it would make sense, because unlike troopers, they would'nt need much training for these simple jobs.

Animation models are expensive. There is a reason they keep the upper half of their faces in the shadow of their caps.

Nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

I think that the consensus on space combat is that ships of the future will throw rocks at planets rather than nukes. Dropping a big rock from orbit onto a planet is much cheaper than nuking it and has similar (or even greater) damage potential, and the rock can literally be an asteroid you picked up along the way, or anything with some mass to it really. A big metal ball with a radius of 3-4 meters dropped from space on an Earth-mass planet is enough to wipe out a city.

Purple eyes and a Mohawk. Rebels is representing women for sure! I wonder if we'll ever see a woman who is dainty and/or demure. I mean, in the interests of diversity, are there any women in this universe who aren't badasses?

ROTS Padme.

Alright guys, I have a theory, a Star Wars Rebels theory!

so there is this one Imperial officer guy (pic below) who is in a TON of episodes.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRddiik3vLx-UyySu9_ska9lUKYNzmqo6vTriOXPtoKBGlO-pOO

This guy right here!

I figured he just made his way around, until last night's episode.

I don't have a picture, but on the bridge of one of the cruisers, there were four of this guy! they all looked the same!

do you think they are clones? it would make sense, because unlike troopers, they would'nt need much training for these simple jobs.

Animation models are expensive. There is a reason they keep the upper half of their faces in the shadow of their caps.

yea, but it's still funny.

Nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

I think that the consensus on space combat is that ships of the future will throw rocks at planets rather than nukes. Dropping a big rock from orbit onto a planet is much cheaper than nuking it and has similar (or even greater) damage potential, and the rock can literally be an asteroid you picked up along the way, or anything with some mass to it really. A big metal ball with a radius of 3-4 meters dropped from space on an Earth-mass planet is enough to wipe out a city.

I remember seeing that in chapter approved...

Only 14 years ago.

/sigh.

Incidentally MCDLVI

Administratum building CXXI, Room MCDLVI.

Nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

I think that the consensus on space combat is that ships of the future will throw rocks at planets rather than nukes. Dropping a big rock from orbit onto a planet is much cheaper than nuking it and has similar (or even greater) damage potential, and the rock can literally be an asteroid you picked up along the way, or anything with some mass to it really. A big metal ball with a radius of 3-4 meters dropped from space on an Earth-mass planet is enough to wipe out a city.

Ahem.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Rocks_Are_Not_Free!

Quote:

"Rocks are NOT ‘free’, citizen.

Firstly, you must manoeuvre the Emperor’s naval vessel within the asteroid belt, almost assuredly sustaining damage to the Emperor’s ship’s paint from micrometeoroids, while expending the Emperor’s fuel.

Then the Tech Priests must inspect the rock in question to ascertain its worthiness to do the Emperor’s bidding. Should it pass muster, the Emperor’s Servitors must use the Emperor’s auto-scrapers and melta-cutters to prepare the potential ordinance for movement. Finally, the Tech Priests finished, the Emperor’s officers may begin manoeuvring the Emperor’s warship to abut the asteroid at the prepared face (expending yet more of the Emperor’s fuel), and then begin boosting the stone towards the offensive planet.

After a few days of expending a prodigious amount of the Emperor’s fuel to accelerate the asteroid into an orbit more fitting to the Emperor’s desires, the Emperor’s ship may then return to the planet via superluminous warp travel and await the arrival of the stone, still many weeks (or months) away.

After twiddling away the Emperor’s time and eating the Emperor’s food in the wasteful pursuit of making sure that the Emperor’s enemies do not launch a deflection mission, they may finally watch the ordinance impact the planet (assuming that the Emperor’s ship does not need to attempt any last-minute course correction upon the rock, using yet more of the Emperor’s fuel).

Given a typical (class Bravo-CVII) system, we have the following:

Two months, O&M, Titan class warship: 4.2 Million Imperials

Two months, rations, crew of same: 0.2 MI

Two months, Tech Priest pastor: 1.7 MI

Two months, Servitor parish: 0.3 MI

Paint, Titan class warship: 2.5 MI

Dihydrogen peroxide fuel: 0.9 MI

Total: 9.8 MI

Contrasted with the following:

5 warheads, magna-melta: 2.5 MI

One day, O&M, Titan class warship: 0.3 MI

One day, rations, crew of same: 0.0 MI

Dihydrogen peroxide fuel: 0.1 MI

Total: 2.9 MI

Given the same result with under one third of the cost, the Emperor will have saved a massive amount of His most sacred money and almost a full month of time, during which His warship may be bombarding an entirely different planet.

The Emperor, through this – His Office of Imperial Outlays – hereby orders you to attend one (1) week of therapeutic accountancy training/penance. Please report to Areicon IV, Imperial City, Administratum Building CXXI, Room 1456, where you are to sit in the BLUE chair.

For the Emperor,

Bursarius Tenathis,

Purser Level XI,

Imperial Office of Outlays."

End quote.

Thrawn did it in a couple days, and even added cloaking devices. So... cheaper than Nukes.

Automated ship that is basically guidance and engines is all you need, no wasteful biological crew required. Even we earthers have tech that can do that (well on its still in the planning stages).

Purple eyes and a Mohawk. Rebels is representing women for sure! I wonder if we'll ever see a woman who is dainty and/or demure. I mean, in the interests of diversity, are there any women in this universe who aren't badasses?

Yeah. Mon Mothma.

And, what, you're actually complaining about badass women?

Beru Lars, total badass

Purple eyes and a Mohawk. Rebels is representing women for sure! I wonder if we'll ever see a woman who is dainty and/or demure. I mean, in the interests of diversity, are there any women in this universe who aren't badasses?

Satine Kryze

Dignified pacifist 'til the end...!

ok cool you guys brought up some good examples. I was thinking about Padme but then I think about Episode 2 and she kinda kicked some butt... but that certainly wasn't because she wanted to, it was because she had no other choice, which is fairly reasonable.

Mon Mothma is a really good example.

And no I'm not complaining about powerful kick-butt women in Star Wars at all... I was just afraid that in an effort to be more appropriate, that they might have pushed TOO far and swung the pendulum to a point where ALL women were warriors and there was no other way. But I'm fairly convinced that they haven't done that... Mon Mothma is pretty much the perfect example IMO. Beru Lars to a lesser extent, in that she was more of a footnote, but I suppose she does represent someone who is comfortable being a homemaker, which is fine. ok were good. Thanks for the perspective folks!

Love this community btw.

Yeah but like, Ketsu went to the imperial academy- hell her haircut shows that such things remain (while, funny enough, Sabine's is the opposite here.) It just makes sense, really.

Hell even Hera is less of a badass than Sabine on foot. Now, you give her the stick... And she'll outfly Luke Skywalker.

I also love this community.

ok cool you guys brought up some good examples. I was thinking about Padme but then I think about Episode 2 and she kinda kicked some butt... but that certainly wasn't because she wanted to, it was because she had no other choice, which is fairly reasonable.

Mon Mothma is a really good example.

And no I'm not complaining about powerful kick-butt women in Star Wars at all... I was just afraid that in an effort to be more appropriate, that they might have pushed TOO far and swung the pendulum to a point where ALL women were warriors and there was no other way. But I'm fairly convinced that they haven't done that... Mon Mothma is pretty much the perfect example IMO. Beru Lars to a lesser extent, in that she was more of a footnote, but I suppose she does represent someone who is comfortable being a homemaker, which is fine. ok were good. Thanks for the perspective folks!

Love this community btw.

This seems like a weird concern. Because, well, Leia.

And Hera is still the greatest space mom ever, which I don't think fits into the archetype you have concerns with.

Minister Tua...? Space politician, non badass.

I too love this community.

Thrawn did it in a couple days, and even added cloaking devices. So... cheaper than Nukes.

Thrawn didn't actually toss the rocks at the planet, just left them in orbit.

(Thrawn's plan also didn't make much sense when you think about it; a few dozen cloaked asteroids cover so little of the space around a planet that the odds of hitting one on the way in or out are astronomically low.)

ok cool you guys brought up some good examples. I was thinking about Padme but then I think about Episode 2 and she kinda kicked some butt... but that certainly wasn't because she wanted to, it was because she had no other choice, which is fairly reasonable.

Mon Mothma is a really good example.

And no I'm not complaining about powerful kick-butt women in Star Wars at all... I was just afraid that in an effort to be more appropriate, that they might have pushed TOO far and swung the pendulum to a point where ALL women were warriors and there was no other way. But I'm fairly convinced that they haven't done that... Mon Mothma is pretty much the perfect example IMO. Beru Lars to a lesser extent, in that she was more of a footnote, but I suppose she does represent someone who is comfortable being a homemaker, which is fine. ok were good. Thanks for the perspective folks!

Love this community btw.

This seems like a weird concern. Because, well, Leia.

And Hera is still the greatest space mom ever, which I don't think fits into the archetype you have concerns with.

SPACE MOM IS BEST MOM

Thrawn did it in a couple days, and even added cloaking devices. So... cheaper than Nukes.

Thrawn didn't actually toss the rocks at the planet, just left them in orbit.

(Thrawn's plan also didn't make much sense when you think about it; a few dozen cloaked asteroids cover so little of the space around a planet that the odds of hitting one on the way in or out are astronomically low.)

You mean kinda' like the imperial blockade at Hoth?

The rebel ships were all coming from the same place on the surface, so the ISDs were placed in the most likely escape vectors. I assume. If the ships flew around the other side of the planet I'm sure one of the ISDs or its TIEs would have easily intercepted it without the benifit of the ion cannon's cover fire.

Thrawn's plan was not to ACTUALLY blockde the planet, but to make the rebels THINK he did.

He had only a dozen or so rocks, but fed garbage data that suggested thousands.