I was wondering that... there are a few players who say in X-Wing Capital ships are too week but.............

Darth Vader took out a command ships single handedly. H was flying a TIE Advanced and apparently the fire power of that one craft is enough to take down a CR-? Of course he is a Sith Lord and maybe rolled all criticals.

Now the prototype Blade Wing can take down a Capital ships with a single shot.

Maybe Capital ships in X-Wing are over powered compared to the Star Wars universe.

But if a fighter can take down a capital ship with a single shot then should any ship, small, large or huge be able to withstand fire power of a B-Wing's magnitude?

Fantastic episode. Loved the retention of references to the EU elements and WEG origins for the B-wing, plus the reverse-Dagger Squadron graphics. It's my favorite Rebels episode thus far!

Great sound design in this series, too.

Now ... does anyone want to run an Epic scenario where the Ghost, a Corvette, some A-wings and a B-Wing take on a Raider, a Gozanti, and some TIE Fighters?

Militarily I didn't this so. They lost one CR-90 and was most likely going to loose one or two more in the second attempt. The only reason and hope the Ghost had to survive was because of their speed, they said so. The Blade Wing let minute arrival saved the mission from being a complete lose and failure.

I'm not sure of the group they were resupplying but they must have been very important to loose multiple fighters, one CR-90 and most likely loose two more just to get the Ghost though.

Or was it all plot and stop worrying about the details.

Darth Vader took out a command ships single handedly. H was flying a TIE Advanced and apparently the fire power of that one craft is enough to take down a CR-?

But to take out a frigate in a couple rounds of normal laser fire?

Militarily I didn't see this so. They lost one CR-90 and was most likely going to loose one or two more in the second attempt. The only reason and hope the Ghost had to survive was because of their speed, they said so. The Blade Wing let minute arrival saved the mission from being a complete lose and failure.

I'm not sure of the group they were resupplying, but they must have been very important to loose multiple fighters, one CR-90 and most likely loose two more just to get the Ghost though.

Or was it all plot and stop worrying about the details.

Also, the victory is only temporary. As in "pyrrhic", since Food and supplies tend to get used up after a certain amount of time - or confiscated, if the Empire really wants to tighten its grip on the population.

The ship doesn't look any different from a normal B-Wing, so I don't imagine it would get it's own ship. Title card for the B-Wing more likely.

It does have the gunner's seat at the other end instead of just a standard gun blister, so while not being a totally new model, they'd have to mod the current one, certainly.

As for that super laser? Good lord, one-shotting an armored and shielded Arquitens is hideously overpowered even for an epic fight. Your opponent would focus-fire on it until the thing was history, otherwise his poor Raider/Gozanti would be dust.

Also, when Kallus did kill that CR-90 with his ship, did anyone else think "so THAT'S his card ability at work..."

i just could not stop staring at his goddamn sideburns. They should be an upgrade card into and of themselves.

I know the ship rotated around the main cockpit... was Sabine's gunner seat kept at the same orientation as the cockpit , or was her orientation constantly changing while it spun?

Nope, not sure where you heard that but the TIE Punisher hasn't appeared in Rebels. You might have gotten confused with the Interdictor class Star Destroyer that will be appearing later on in season 2.

Easily? Vader kicked their butts in the Siege of Lothal and Kallus's blockade took down a CR-90.

No main characters have died yet, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. I feel main character death should be a big event. My favorite character death from a cartoon is probably Dinobot from Beast Wars, because his death marked the perfect end of a character arc that was built up over many episodes. I don't feel anyone in the series besides maybe Kanan has had the necessary time to grow before kicking the bucket.

I heard it from a forum poster. I you sure there no TIE Punishers? Vader easily killed no-names. Excluding Vader we are not seeing the IMPs themselves doing well. I well get into more of what I am talking about because it relates to a response too another user.

What's up with all the Rebels bashing? Like Beast Wars, mentioned a few posts above, this is a kids show driven by merchandise and the need to keep a decades long franchise alive between 'reboots'. The fact that the show runners have researched so much and have worked in sly references to all that concept art and old EU material (not to mention references to the old Droid's cartoon, and underrated part of the 'dark ages') should be making everyone squee in delight. Is it an Emmy award winning show? Of course not! Is it Star Wars? You bet! Is it fun? Yeah!

And as far as main characters dying, just wait. I doubt Rex and Asohka will survive the season finale. And I doubt Kanan will survive the series. Zev and Kalus killing each other in a final battle near the finale is always a possibility too. This show can get real dark if the writers choose.

Well for starters this is a Star Wars show... When your having a versus debate and such and such is actually using the Rebels show to help their side / argument, be it 40k, Star Trek, RoboTech, Macross ect, then the SW person has a problem, especially if they are fighting for the IMPs.

Most of the stuff I read or see from the series makes a scene pop in my head of the President of LFL having a conference with every SW fan from Spacebattles or Fact files. In this scene she get up and says, "Thats so cute, you guys are fighting for SW when you do vs matchs... You know what go **** yourselves, and your family, and your dog, and your cat, and your pet reptiles, and your rats, and your car, and your social security..."

Thats just how I feel when I see or read most of the Rebels stuff.

Yeah but the company associated with the Verpine are credited as building/designing the B-Wings as is Ackbar.

Not anymore! I always thought it was dumb to have Ackbar as the designer of the B-wing. Like they couldn't come up with another Mon Cal? He's a genius military tactician and engineer? That was the main problem with the EU. Too few characters were involved and did too many things.

I guess you missed they made it Primary Canon nearly off the bat that Admiral Ackbar and the company involved with the Verpine, lore wise, still created the B-Wing or at least the more modern version.

True but in Star Wars the difference between a fighter and a capital ship is much smaller then in RL It is basically a matter of sale since Star Wars starfighters and Star Wars capital ships are designed for the same environment. IRL fighters are designed for one environment, capital ships for a second, and submarines for a third. It wouldn't shock me if I could find an admiral involved in aircraft design but it would be harder and I might be wrong about being able to find one admittedly.

Three Admirals were involved in the development of the F-111B and the F-14 TOM cat, all of them had the first name TOM , the most well known one was Vice Admiral T h om as F.

Best aircraft their ever was. That being said they should have named the B -Wing the "Ack B ar-Wing fighter.

These guys are expected to fight more than just Jedi, their are lots and lots of other Force User groups out there. Wardens of the Sky would shatter these Inquisitors, that's not a bad thing going by the lore it just gives another reason to show off the Inquisitorium Dark Troopers.

There are no Wardens of the Sky or Dark Troopers that we know of yet. As far as canon is concerned, Jedi and Sith are the only Force users around now, especially since the Nightsisters were wiped out completely. That is until we find out that there are more of them. If we ever find that out. The Fallanassi, the Jensaarai ... even, sadly, the Zeison Sha. None of these exist that we know of as of now.

In fact, it looks like the Force has been a non-factor in the galaxy since Endor, and that it will "awaken" in Episode 7. The only Force users we know about post-Endor are Luke, who has some minimal Jedi training, and Leia, who seems to have none, but gets "feelings" regarding her role in the universe. it does seem like the Knights of Ren have some Force ability, but that might just be Kylo himself--it seemed that he was the only one with a saber in the trailer.

Well they exist until contradicted, really because of their lore background its something you would have to try hard to purposely make non-canon. If you don't like Inquestorum Dark Troopers might I suggest then Shadow Guard from SWTFU? They were made Primary canon.

Darth Vader took out a command ships single handedly. H was flying a TIE Advanced and apparently the fire power of that one craft is enough to take down a CR-?

It wouldn't have been so jarring if he'd at least used Missiles. It's not like the TIE Advanced doesn't have them.

But to take out a frigate in a couple rounds of normal laser fire?

No no no. The TIE Advance X1 doesn't just have normal LASERs. Just to put this in perspective... TIE Fighters had regular Lasers, most the time they could be modes out and did often. ARC-170 had Medium Laser cannons and they could vaporize the Armour plating off of cap ships. The Heavy laser cannons on the TIE X1 could one shot kill some BTL-A4s, some X-Wings to as long as the cannons were at full power more than likely. The TIE X1 uses a chopped down version of the

SFS Ls-9.3 Laser Cannons. The TIE Interceptor, TIE Avenger, TIE Defender, use the full version or deluxe version of the SFS Ls-9.3 Laser Canon. Despite what it looks like these cannon run more than half if not the whole length of the Interceptor Solar Panel. We see Interceptor vaporize A-Wings and X-Wings with a single beam, ONE BEAM. We see Interceptors blast-apart / kill BTL-S3 and B-Wings with a single beam. We see Interceptors attack capital ships and rip giant chunks of hull right off the cap ships they are attacking, lots of the fragments are as big as the Interceptor Pilots section it self. They did this in one pass with a volley of LASER attacks.

The empire made the SFS Ls-9.3 Laser Canon to take away a lot of the advantages REB fighters had over IMP fighters.

Now back to the part about the B-Wings being one beam killed by Interceptors, the energy setting was probably between normal and max, because we see a TIE Interceptor ACE chase after Blue Leader I believe and they rapid fire at them, the attack does cause the B-Wing to die but not instantly. The B-Wing before lost its shields in one hit then the same beam hit all four engines at once blowing up the entire B-Wing.

The TIE Advance X1 doesn't just have normal LASERs. Just to put this in perspective... TIE Fighters had regular Lasers, most the time they could be modes out and did often. ARC-170 had Medium Laser cannons and they could vaporize the Armour plating off of cap ships. The Heavy laser cannons on the TIE X1 could one shot kill some BTL-A4s, some X-Wings to as long as the cannons were at full power more than likely. The TIE X1 uses a chopped down version of the

SFS Ls-9.3 Laser Cannons. The TIE Interceptor, TIE Avenger, TIE Defender, use the full version or deluxe version of the SFS Ls-9.3 Laser Canon. Despite what it looks like these cannon run more than half if not the whole length of the Interceptor Solar Panel. We see Interceptor vaporize A-Wings and X-Wings with a single beam, ONE BEAM. We see Interceptors blast-apart / kill BTL-S3 and B-Wings with a single beam. We see Interceptors attack capital ships and rip giant chunks of hull right off the cap ships they are attacking, lots of the fragments are as big as the Interceptor Pilots section it self. They did this in one pass with a volley of LASER attacks.

The empire made the SFS Ls-9.3 Laser Canon to take away a lot of the advantages REB fighters had over IMP fighters.

In case you didn't notice, in the movies, everything kills everything in 1-2 hits.

Yay, more of your fanfiction.

Eh, just ignore him. It's not worth the time and effort to respond to his drivel.

I know the ship rotated around the main cockpit... was Sabine's gunner seat kept at the same orientation as the cockpit , or was her orientation constantly changing while it spun?

It rotated, too!

I was wondering that... there are a few players who say in X-Wing Capital ships are too week but.............

Darth Vader took out a command ships single handedly. H was flying a TIE Advanced and apparently the fire power of that one craft is enough to take down a CR-? Of course he is a Sith Lord and maybe rolled all criticals.

Now the prototype Blade Wing can take down a Capital ships with a single shot.

Maybe Capital ships in X-Wing are over powered compared to the Star Wars universe.

But if a fighter can take down a capital ship with a single shot then should any ship, small, large or huge be able to withstand fire power of a B-Wing's magnitude?

Keep in mind that CR-90s and those Imperial cruisers aren't really "capital ships". They're completely dwarfed by something like Home One or an ISD.

The TIE Advance X1 doesn't just have normal LASERs. Just to put this in perspective... TIE Fighters had regular Lasers, most the time they could be modes out and did often. ARC-170 had Medium Laser cannons and they could vaporize the Armour plating off of cap ships. The Heavy laser cannons on the TIE X1 could one shot kill some BTL-A4s, some X-Wings to as long as the cannons were at full power more than likely. The TIE X1 uses a chopped down version of the

SFS Ls-9.3 Laser Cannons. The TIE Interceptor, TIE Avenger, TIE Defender, use the full version or deluxe version of the SFS Ls-9.3 Laser Canon. Despite what it looks like these cannon run more than half if not the whole length of the Interceptor Solar Panel. We see Interceptor vaporize A-Wings and X-Wings with a single beam, ONE BEAM. We see Interceptors blast-apart / kill BTL-S3 and B-Wings with a single beam. We see Interceptors attack capital ships and rip giant chunks of hull right off the cap ships they are attacking, lots of the fragments are as big as the Interceptor Pilots section it self. They did this in one pass with a volley of LASER attacks.

The empire made the SFS Ls-9.3 Laser Canon to take away a lot of the advantages REB fighters had over IMP fighters.

Yay, more of your fanfiction passed off as facts...

In case you didn't notice, in the movies, everything kills everything in 1-2 hits.

You have no references to show that what I wrote is fanfiction, not that it matters I have like tons of references showing what I wrote to be the case. Also if you watch the movies closely hardly any star fighter dies 1-2 hits. They usually die in 3-6 hits in the GC.

DarthEnderX

Your welcome.

http://www.starwars.com/news/blade-squadron-part-two

"Commander Gradd couldn’t help but grin as he zeroed in on another B-wing. As if panicked, the rebel pilot attempted erratic evasive maneuvers. Gradd’s smile intensified as he fell in behind him and blew out the starfighter’s quad engine system with a single shot. He didn’t even bother looking at the snub fighter disintegrate as he sped past."

This one must have had its shields boosted or the IMP ace was using low power shots. But it still died fast. Star Wars Guide to warfare says B-Wings has shields as strong as the Reb frigates shields.

"Gradd smiled as his targeting computer locked onto the B-wing. The board lit up green as Gradd unleashed a barrage of fire from the interceptor’s laser cannons–at first cascading off the B-wing’s heavy shielding, but quickly punching through. Parts of the rebel ship began to burn. Gradd was astonished at the amount of damage his quarry was taking while still remaining operational–and even now it took all of Gradd’s concentration to keep up with the rebel pilot’s evasive maneuvering. Back in the early days of the Rebellion, Gradd had once been impressed by these intuitive upstart fighter pilots, making up for skill with sheer audacity and will. Now he’d killed far too many of them to give any credit to their unorthodox piloting."

"Part 7 BattleFive BATTLE FOR HONOR MISSION ONE CLEAR MINEFIELD

page 187 paragraph 33

STELE'S AFTER-ACTION REPORT

I flew out toward the minefield, wary and shaking. I had to steady my hand to target and destroy mines. I knew there was going to be trouble. I switched to quad fire mode and began firing at mines, keeping my heading moving almost constantly, just pausing long enough to blast a mine. I headed for the container groups Chi and Psi to inspect them, but Harkov came on the comlink and began acussing me of being the Emperor's stoolpigeon. Well the charade is over. Hitting E key, I descovered that my "observers where targeting me!

I called for reinforcements without waiting a heartbeat, then pumped all the juice into the engines to get as much speed as possible. I began weaving and jinking. Then the FRG Osprey jumped in. Help had arrived! I put the Osprey in a memory location.

I headed toward the Osprey at full speed, corkscrewing to throw my pursuers off. By this time, there were three TIE Avengers and a pair of TIE Interceptors after me. Meanwhile, the Osprey was launching some TIE Interceptors and TIE Bombers. I hoped the TIE Interceptors were somehow modified, or they wouldn't stand a chance agianst the TIE Avengers of Harkov's fleet.

I was 2 km from the Osprey when a Rebel Calamari cruiser jumped in. I quickly assigned it to memory so I could keep tabs on it. Almost immediately a shuttle launched and headed for the cruiser. I put the shuttle in a memory location, too. The commander of the Osprey directed me to inspect it! Well, with a full raging dogfight going on around me, it was just possible to do so. Amazing how quiet things can get in the middle of a maelstrom. I found an officer aboard. Well, if I could survive this treachery, I figured I'd live to see Harkov fry. It give me something to live for.

I checked the map screen and saw that the cruiser had launched some X-Wings and Y-Wings. The battle was heating up because the Osprey had also launched its forces. Though all this, I had to cover six kilometers with no shields and half the Empire and Alliance after me! Or it seemed.

Now I thought about hiding in the protection of the Osprey and taking out some of my pursurers. The fire from the Frigate would help me, and if I kept moving, I might take a few of them out. This was extremely risky, of course, but I had discovered that while I corkscrewed, my pursuers got in each others way, often shooting each other instead of me! It was too good to pass up the opporrunity to watch them destroy themselves. I had to keep checking my upward view to make sure I didn't collide with the Osprey, however. Finally, when I tired of the fun, I entered the hanger and cursed Harkov roundly as I debarked and looked for someone to throttle."

"STAR WARS TIE FIGHTER THE COMPLETE STELE CHRONICLES page 45 5th paragraph

COMBAT TRAINING MISSIONS TIE INTERCEPTOR MISSION 2: AMBUSH!

To get the bonus goal killing the Corellian transport, target the Neenoc and shoot rapidly with your wingmen to take him out. That is the only way to get him before he escapes to hyperspace.
(Take in mind this book complments the game and what it doesnt say is that ship is alot faster than the TIE INTERCEPTORS and it gets a head start to its jump point.

Page 65 2nd paragraph


TIE AVENGER MISSION 4 HYPERDRIVE Upgrade

Basically, go after B-Wing Blue first, since they're going after the Frigate. Use your advanced missiles to take them out with two missiles each.

(Take in mind that the reason they used missile over cannons is because they are fire and forget weapons. And their alot of enemy ships trying to kill the frigate and Stele.

page 68 and 69
TIE DEFENDER MISSION 3: INSPECT AND DISSABLE 2nd paragraph

When A-Wing Red 1 arrives, switch to missiles and fire one at the A-Wing. Then switch to quad-fire lasers and use your beam weapon to control A-W Red 1 while you destroy it. (Take in mind this is a training mission on how to use the tracktor beam/ any beam weapon. Beam weapons even if you have power set to max for them run out of power they are power hogs.)

page 92
PART THREE BATTLE ONE THE AFTERMATH OF HOTH MISSION FOUR OUTPOST D-34 HAS FALLEN.

Paragraph 3

The TIE Interceptor was powerful --- much better than the TIE Fighter. I felt the acceleration and couldn't wait to go up agianst an X-Wing one-on-one. It didn't hurt that the Interceptor carried 12 concussion missiles.

4th paragraph 2nd sentance

I increased the recharge rate on my lasers also, as I expected to be doing some serious firing.

6th paragraph
I quickly destroyed the X-Wings and Y-Wing group as well, then used my missiles on some A-Wings that entered the scene.
(Take in mind the A-Wing jumped in at a distance and it would be easyer using smart fire and forget missiles than to target them with the lasers. Take not it says he used the missiles on the A-Wings yet he killed alot of X-Wings and Y-Wings fast with the Laser cannons.

page 116-118

Part Four Battle two: THE SEPAN CIVIL WAR MISSION 3 Rescue War Refugees

paragraph 4

I realized that speed was essential. I could'nt leave the GLAS unprotected, so I cut the laser recharge to ZERO and headed out full throttle, targeting the attack Y-Wing group ABLE and instructing my wingmen to do the same. When I was about 1-2 kilometers away from Glas, I started re-energizing the lasers at one above normal maintenance level.

Then I pressed the targeting key and targeted the closest group of Y-Wings instructing my wingmen to attack one Y-Wing while I attacked another. A few quick shots in single-fire mode helped break up the Y-Wings formation, then it was a dog fight.

Once I was into the dog fight, I put my lasers on full recharge and adjusted speed as the situation warrneted. I would cut to 1/3 as I came on to a Y-Wing, then 2/3 throttle when I was on his tail. When I'd finished him, I went back full throttle until I had caught up with another target.

paragraph 11

I thought my mission was done but four escourt shuttles designated Typhon showed up and went up and after Glas, even though she was empty now, and on autopilot. I decided to take care of them. Since I had no missiles, I used my speed to stay away from them, coming in to attack and then getting away agian. My wing men where also attacking the escort shuttles. I considered heading back toward the Protector to use its guns to deter the escort shuttles, though I was worried I might hit the Protector by mistake. Star Destroyer gunners don't like you taking shots at their ship, even if you are on the sameside. Finally, when the escort shuttles were destroyed, I headed back to the Protector and back into the hanger. I recevived a promotion to lieutenant when this mission was completed.

page 174 paragraph 4
BATTLE FOUR CONFLICT AT MYLOK IV MISSION FOUR DIPLOMATIC MEETING

At 1:15 some enemy Y-Wings appeared. I immediately pressed the target key and assigned my wing man to attack Gold 1. ThenI pressed the retarget key and went after Gold 2 myself, switching to dual missiles. I knew it would take four missiles to destroy a Y-Wing. As sone as I got a red lock, I lauched two, then another more. Then I went after Gold 3 with my lasors. I increased my laser recharge rate, took on Gold 3, then went after more arrivals -- Y-Wing groups yelow and red. I told my wingmen to attack the corvette Phazer 1. I got close to the topside of corvette Phazer 1. I got close and blew his top gun turret off. Then I did the same to Phazer 2. I followed that with a pass on the bottom gun turrets, using missiles from bellow. Then as the CRV passed by the FRG Lendova, the Lendova opened opened up on them, wasting Panzer 1.

(Take note their two groups of two Corvettes.)"

"Sorry I am making two posts I was worried I would be counted as logged out when I hit post.

Star Wars The Essential Guide to Warefare page 146
A TIE Interceptor, by it self, is shown blasting verly large chunks of armor of the bow of a Rebel Nebula B. Take note that the Interceptor is really far away from that cap ship and yet 14 large, 4 are really big, pieces are burned off in one quadlinked volly. Those 4 pieces look to be almost the size of the TIE Interceptor sphereical cockpit.

Rogue Squadron IN THE EMPIRES SERVICE page 21 Wedge is attacked by a 181st Tie Interceptor from 3rd/charle he gets only one quad link shot off if missies by 6-8 feet doesnt even hit the shields but it still damages the hull.

Page 40 panel 3 & 4. Janson is ambushed by 181st TIE Interceptor cant tell how but in a sec he is shot down.

Page 42 panel 1-4 Baron Fel takes out two BLT S3 Y-Wings from Agreeser group. He kilss one with a tri link volly that passes by the hull and makes it explode. The 2nd Y-Wing has one twin linkes diagonal volly fired at it none hit the hull and it burns up.

page 81 panel 3-5 Keyis from Rogue squadron is attacked by two 181st TIE Interceptors one shot one tri linked volly the other shots a quad linked volly. They both miss by 5-8 feet and the X-Wings engines burst and burn the whole X-wing up killing Keyis

Page 83 panel 4 Baron Fel groupleader of 181st TIE Interceptors critical damages Colonial Salm Aggressor Y-Wing Wing Leaders Y-WIng. With one singel beam he makes a direct hit blowing off the left engine. If he had been on a planet he would have crashed.

Star Wars Complete Cross-sections page 120 BLT-A4 Y-WING. I know this is not the S3 but bare with me. The area that the 9.3 Laserbeam struck housed these following things. Wing repulsers, main power cells and lots of coolent lines all hosed in the Y-Wings super structure which is very durable.

Page 86 panel 1-4 Baron Fel has made 2 Quadlinked direct hits on Wedge leader of Rogue squadron. You might be thinking that I am now disproving my points HOWEVER I thought I should bring this up because I want to show you that Rogue Squadron X-Wings are hevily custmized to the point that they can not be considered the bases of all the X-Wings capabilities after all one of the mechanics in the same story enhanced Plourrs manuvering jets to the point that if it had not been done she would be dead. Also they could kill some TIEs with passing laser beams but it didn't happen anywhere near as many times % wise. Tycho from Rogue squadron fires a very tight volly of laser at Major Turr from 181st and the passing beams did nothing to him and they where at the most 2 feet away. Also Rogue squadron had all their X-Wings equiped with a Ion Cannons instead of a launcher when they went on a mission on Kessel to save Wedge

STAR WARS X-WING ROGUE SQUADRON BLOOD AND HONOR
page 39 panel 3-4 Battle of Endor Baron Fel In Saber squadron TIE Interceptor destroys a A4 or S3 Y-Wing with the 9.3 Laser Cannons by ether one shotting it through the bottom and out the top of the cockpit OR blows up the cockpit with two passing laserbeams that dont hit the shields. On the fourth panel Baron Fel obliterates a Y-Wing with a right wing panel only twinlink single laser volly.

Now I shold point out not one of the TIE Fighter nor TIE-Wings in this story kill fighters with laser that pass by enemy fighter they flat out miss.

STAR WARS TIE FIGHTER THE STELE CHRONICLES Page 74
first paragraph
QUOTE
There has been concern on the part of some of the leaders of our Imperial forces that our TIE starfighters were no longer distinguished as the most advanced starfighters in the galaxy. The rabble of alliance have managed, with the help of Incom traitors and other sympathizers, to create a highly versatile and dangerous series of starfighters, led most notably by X-Wing. THEREFORE, THE IMPERIAL LEADERS HAVE CONCEIVED A NEW STARFIGHTER, BASED ON THE TIE DESIGNS, BUT FASTER, MORE POWERFUL, AND EVEN MORE MANUVERABLE. THIS NEW CRAFT IS THE TIE INTERCEPTOR.

Page 31 paragraph 3
QUOTE
Just then, the nearer of the two Y-Wings broke off and began to veer away. He'd been spotted! Maarek pressed the stud and saw the momentary glare of laser fire, but only from two of his lasers. HE HADN'T QUAD-LINKED THE LASERS, AND HE WASN'T SURE HOW TO DO SO. MECHS GENERALLY WEREN'T ALLOWED TO TEST WEAPONS. Even so, the dual lasers fired straight and true, and there was a brief glow in the aft section of the Y-Wing ---a partial hit!
2nd paragraph first line.
But the enemy craft did not slow down and appeared undamaged.

Take in mind he prob didnt know this based off the quote above.

STAR WARS TIE FIGHTER THE COMPLETE STELE CHRONICLES. The Imperial Pilots Handbook Basic Pilots Manual. (Its a book within a book.)
page 14 paragraph two line 2

Laser Cannons are the most common starfighter weapons in the galaxy. Their highly focused bursts of energy can inflict great damage. They are fired at very high velocity on a straight path. Laser cannons may be fired ain rapid bursts, though a small delay is required to cool the laser beam focussing barrel. This weapon is powerd by the ship's main power generator. Continuous firing will drain the laser power cells and your weapons may take some time to recharge. Your laser cannon can be fired singly or firelinked for maxium spread and power. However, recharge times are greater when weapons are fire-linked. Adjusting more power to the weapon systems will reduce recharging time, but at the cost of either shields, engines, or both.

Page 20 first paragraph.

ENERGY MANAGEMENT AND LES DISPLAY

The primary consideration during any mission is what power configuration will optimize your chances for success. Depending on the craft you are in, there are certain systems that must be balanced for optimal performance and mission success. Among these systems are: Engines, Weapons, and Shields. Depending on mission goals and the needs of moments, energy levels may be optimized for maximum speed, firepower, or defense. There is always a trade-off and you may find it necessary to make frequent adjustments. There is no "perfect" configuration. Nevertheless, you should always strive to maintain fully charged cannons and full primary and secondary shields, if your craft is so equipped. This skill can not be overemphasized. It must become second nature, allowing you to rapidly and instinctively select the optimum configuration demanded by circumstances.

Page 29

KEEP CANNONS SUPERCHARGED

Supercharged cannons fire farther and hit harder. Watch your energy use and try and keep cannons supercharged.

You have no references to show that what I wrote is fanfiction

Your welcome.

I know the ship rotated around the main cockpit... was Sabine's gunner seat kept at the same orientation as the cockpit , or was her orientation constantly changing while it spun?

It rotated, too!

I kinda hope hilarity ensues while Zeb is in that seat and it malfunctions

You have no references to show that what I wrote is fanfiction

Sure I do. It's just not worth my time finding any of them because everyone here already assumes you're always wrong. And you don't admit when you're wrong even once proven. So I can just spend that time playing Fallout 4 instead.

Your welcome.

You wasted your time cause I'm not reading any of that.

You don't have any references, also your statement "that everyone here already assumes I am always wrong" is fallacy. Plenty of people on this website use my information, especially on the Armada forums. Also you can't use such an argument especially when these types of detail and references are presented, you might as well have said, Star Wars ep 6 is wrong, Star Wars Blade Squadron is wrong, Star Wars complete vehicles is wrong, Rogue Squadron is wrong, and the Stele Chronicles is wrong.

As for admitting when I am wrong, I don't see any point most the time in talking in topic in which I don't know something very well, which is why I am not in every topic.

So unless you go by some strange wonkey canon in which even SW ep 6 isn't canon your view for this debate, really its a fight now, is seriously flawed and you'll only lose using it.

@ BKL Where was it confirmed in the new canon that Ackbar was involved in designing the B-Wing? I know the canon Wookieepedia page says he did, or said he did but I've never been able to figure out which canon source states that.

@ BKL Where was it confirmed in the new canon that Ackbar was involved in designing the B-Wing? I know the canon Wookieepedia page says he did, or said he did but I've never been able to figure out which canon source states that.

On Wookieepedia I have no idea. You'll have to start a topic there asking them on the Ackbar talk page. Someone should maybe help. I think they referenced the Ultimate SW source book, but I have seen where they have used that book incorrectly as a source in the past. They list is as having a TIE Defender reference in it, but the book doesn't mention them.

You have no references to show that what I wrote is fanfiction

Sure I do. It's just not worth my time finding any of them because everyone here already assumes you're always wrong. And you don't admit when you're wrong even once proven. So I can just spend that time playing Fallout 4 instead.

Your welcome.

You wasted your time cause I'm not reading any of that.

whoa okay dude hold on

In BKL's defense he just cited the CRAP out of his argument.

You can't just dismiss his argument as faulty because you're not going to read the citations. If they're there, they're there.

Wow that's a lot of non-canon legends stuff that is contradicted by the actual films. As said before most starfighters blow up in one or two volleys of laser fire, or are at least fatally damaged and end up spiraling out of control.

Of course the films also show missiles and torpedoes only being fired on capital ships with buzz droid missiles being the only starfighter-targeting exception, yet there's many games that allow missiles and torps to splash starfighters.

But I'm glad someone takes all that seriously...I guess.

Wow that's a lot of non-canon legends stuff that is contradicted by the actual films. As said before most starfighters blow up in one or two volleys of laser fire, or are at least fatally damaged and end up spiraling out of control.

To be fair, a lot of the quick kills on movie X-Wings came from Darth Vader with Predator and Advanced Targeting Computer.

You can't just dismiss his argument as faulty because you're not going to read the citations.

I can ASSUME it's wrong, because it's him that's saying it. And any citations he has will be cherry picked from contradictory EU sources. So I don't have to waste my time with it.

Price of squandering his reputation I suppose.

^His citations in that most are mostly:

• video games, which are questionable in canonicity debates because they change things for mechanical reasons
• novelisations of such, see above
• comic book panels , which are questionable due to frequently off-model art/effects (and they will pick "looks cool" over "is accurate" every single time)