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I AM LIGHTHEADED FROM LAUGHING SO HARD

The Jedi Starbird IS canon, however, and may have influenced Wren.

According to what source? I can't think of a single instance of that symbol appearing pre-rebellion that is still canon.

The Jedi Starbird IS canon, however, and may have influenced Wren.

According to what source? I can't think of a single instance of that symbol appearing pre-rebellion that is still canon.

All over TCW. Obi-wan'sarmor specifically.

While the shape is similar, they are different logos.

Hmm, it IS still the same wing motif though. Alright, accepted.

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pure genius!

Man it must have been over 20 years since I last read stars end (and the rest of the trilogy) I had it on paperback.

I haven't seen any conflicts in story at all SWTFU vs Rebels.

Well, for one thing, TFU establishes that the firehawk that is the symbol of the Rebel Alliance is the Marek family crest.

Rebels seems to be foreshadowing that the symbol will originate from Sabine Wrens graffiti tag.

Its not the same exact symbol.

I thought it was called a Starbird, similar to the Jedi Starbird.

Well it WAS a lot of things. But none of those things is canon anymore. The new implication is that Wren created it herself. And that the fact that she tends to leave it everywhere when they do rebellion stuff is going to lead to it eventually becoming the symbol of the Alliance.

It doesn't become the alliance symbol, the Star Killer family crest becomes the Alliance symbol. If Wrens design had become the Alliances symbol it would look more like a firebird.

In the end its still the same, the Rebel Allicance is forumed by groups of senators that were preforming rebelous actions against the Empire. They knew about the Death Star, that doesn't mean they knew it could destroy. planets, stars, universes, multiverses. There plenty of giant Imperial space stations, why would anyone at that point in time assume it has such a destructive weapon? They technically didn't let Bail go, he fled are remained in hidding un on till his death.

There many reasons WHY he wanted the Rebel Alliance to be formed. He wanted all of, or most of, the Rebel forces that were making hit and runs on IMP forces to unifiy and become more dangerious. Remember at this time the Imperial senate still dictates what goes on in the empire, or at the least, has a hand in what is done in the empire. By having the Rebel Alliance forum, he can present to the Imperial Senate legit reasons for building up the Imperial war machine. He "could" use his force powers to make the senate do as he wished BUT he is trying to maintain an Empire that through willing choice, the members will want to, or agree with, changes made in their gov infrastructure.

His two major goals was, live forever, make an Empire that will outlast him. He wanted to live forever but his 2nd primary goal didn't depend on him surviving. The people runing that Empire needed to whilingly believe they are morally correct and have emotional attachments too the Empire. Slaving everyone with his force powers would not work, because if he died his empire would desolve, everyone in it would snap out of the state they were in and just leave, most of them at least.

The Imperial Senate wont always see eye to eye with the Emperor, which is good for him, because he had it already planned to eventully phase them out. By draging their feet in the face of a growing threat, like the Rebel Alliance, the true Imperial citizens will have littile problem with having the Imperial Senate sweeped away AND they will be ok with having the Imperial war machine expanded.

By ROTJ the Empire has around 600 mil captial ships... They have a 1 mil just going by sectors named in SW, 100,000 of those are Star Destroyers, not counting Battleships and Super Star Destroyers.

Ok where did you get your numbers? 25 star destroyers per sector and 1,000 sectors is 25,000 Star Destroyers not 100,000. 1,600 additional warships per sector brings to around 1.6 million smaller warships.

The whole thing about Palpatine wanting an organized resistance as an excuse to crack down doesn't fit with what we see in TFU. First if he wanted the rebellion as an excuse to crack down he wouldn't have targeted the leadership when he did. Instead he would have waited until they had done some noticeable damage then struck. Second he would have dissolved the Senate and brought the Death Star I online with the demonstration of its power before acting to crush the rebellion's leadership.

Your sources are out of date. The Empire controls a heck of alot more than just 1,000 sectors. I litterly went through and counted every sector or system named in a movie, comic, novel, or game that is controled by the Empire, and there a heck of alot more systems and sectors than have been written up and given a name or lore.

It does fit with what we see in SWTFU, on top of that his plot invovles Vader being axed and replaced with Star Killer. That was the only part of his plot that wasnt accomplished. If you didn't read it, all I am going to say here is that it comes down to him wanting to build an Empire that will out last him. He wants his Empire to be strong in the Imperial creedo and are battle hardned and ready for any threat that will come from within, and from other Galaxies and universes. To do that dead wood must be burned.

The only thing he doesn't want around are jedi and other force users not in his control. Uptill ROTJ that is. By the time of Dark Empire, Sidious was well on his way with stage three, which would have replaced what was left of the Empire with force enhanced entities.

Don't try to extract logic from BKL posts, you won't find any~

Yeah, so says a person that never has an argument to back up anything the claim, only false personal attacks, I haven't forgoten your comment about me slitting my wrists... I am surprised you even made the above comment with out your master giving you a command to do so?

What comes around goes around.

Source this or publicly retract it, I will not take slander to this extent, and I do not recall EVER making such a post.

your comment about me slitting my wrists...

Source this or publicly retract it, I will not take slander to this extent, and I do not recall EVER making such a post.

A quick forum search backs me up.

Your move, BKL.

I got to quote my namesake and say that I am semi speechless.

A quick forum search backs me up.

Your move, BKL.

in all fairness, why is it up to him to prove it? He made an unfounded accusation based upon nothing that can be substantiated but you're acting like the burden of proof is on him?

What Internet is this, Russia's Internet?

^I literally just searched half a dozen variations on "wrists" "slit" "cut", etc, and literally the only result was his post in this thread.

My point is, either he /has/ proof, in which case I apologise, or he doesn't. If he has no proof and doesn't retract, this goes to the mods. If I wanted to be mean it'd have gone straight there instead of me giving him a chance.

Or, you report it and move on.

Exactly. Keep your dark side to yourself.

Why would I do that instead of giving him a chance to not have the mods come down on his head? It's happened to me before and it's not fun, let me tell you hwhat.

BKL has never shown any evidence for anything that he has ever said.

I wouldn't expect him to start, now.

(Just saying.)

Strictly-speaking, he's never /had to/, if you assume as is only sane that all his fluff posts are personal opinion.

This is blatantly not.

your comment about me slitting my wrists...

Source this or publicly retract it, I will not take slander to this extent, and I do not recall EVER making such a post.

I don't take orders from you.

your comment about me slitting my wrists...

Source this or publicly retract it, I will not take slander to this extent, and I do not recall EVER making such a post.

Yeah, just be warned he likes to follow people he doesn't like into every conversation they are in and attack them. I will send you a personal link showing you the comment.

BKL has never shown any evidence for anything that he has ever said.

I wouldn't expect him to start, now.

(Just saying.)

Yes I have. Lots of my posts, mostly the earlier ones, not only had refrences but quotes as well. In fact my refrences used to take up almost whole pages.

That's ******* enough, to quote Iphigenia Deme.

How is BKL still here?

BKL didn't I more or less tell you to get outta' my thread a couple months back?

/drama.

I'd like to see proof though.

Trying to get this thread back on track.

Anyway, back to Rebels.

I am glad I am going to finish A New Dawn before the next, Hera centric, episode.

A New Dawn is six years prior yes? Sound like a good place for character background.

Could you give us a brief (spoiler-labeled) synopsys?

It doesn't get too deep into their backgrounds, but it does give some nice character work of where Kanan and Hera were before Rebels. It is neat to see where Kanan and Hera started, and where they are quite obviously now.