I apologize if this has been brought up before, but throughout Season One, I've seen the Phantom "docked" with the Ghost two different ways -- sometimes with the Phantom facing forward, sometimes aft. Does anyone know if the two docking methods are an official part of the ship's design? Or is it a bit of a slip-up?

Either way, I love the show! And thanks in advance for the input.

I apologize if this has been brought up before, but throughout Season One, I've seen the Phantom "docked" with the Ghost two different ways -- sometimes with the Phantom facing forward, sometimes aft. Does anyone know if the two docking methods are an official part of the ship's design? Or is it a bit of a slip-up?

Either way, I love the show! And thanks in advance for the input.

It's an official part of the Phantom's design. The hatch on the bottom of the shuttle is positioned so the craft can be docked nose in or nose out.

I apologize if this has been brought up before, but throughout Season One, I've seen the Phantom "docked" with the Ghost two different ways -- sometimes with the Phantom facing forward, sometimes aft. Does anyone know if the two docking methods are an official part of the ship's design? Or is it a bit of a slip-up?

Either way, I love the show! And thanks in advance for the input.

It's an official part of the Phantom's design. The hatch on the bottom of the shuttle is positioned so the craft can be docked nose in or nose out.

Cool -- thanks!

I tried watching rebels again couldn't make it through two episodes I just wanted to scream.

The idea a tie fighter can't hit a slow walker even a glancing blow just makes my blood simmer.

Walkers not being able to hit another walker made it boil.

And the nonsense with the dust storm was the final straw.

This show gets no more chances from me.

I tried watching rebels again couldn't make it through two episodes I just wanted to scream.

The idea a tie fighter can't hit a slow walker even a glancing blow just makes my blood simmer.

Walkers not being able to hit another walker made it boil.

And the nonsense with the dust storm was the final straw.

This show gets no more chances from me.

The storm was awesome, you have problems.

Terrestrial submarine warfare.

I tried watching rebels again couldn't make it through two episodes I just wanted to scream.

The idea a tie fighter can't hit a slow walker even a glancing blow just makes my blood simmer.

Walkers not being able to hit another walker made it boil.

And the nonsense with the dust storm was the final straw.

This show gets no more chances from me.

Cool, then we won't have see any of your bitching about the show anymore. After all, since you've declared that you hate Rebels, there's no need for you to post in any thread dealing with the show.

The Death Star was populated by British extras and Shakespearean actors.

Anyway Stormies went from being all clones of one man to being extremely diverse new batch clones and volunteer/conscripts within less than two decades. The only things keeping aliens from being Stormtroopers are fitting in the uniform and being able to use the weapons. And I suppose wanting to join the empire's military in the capacity of a grunt. (Or marine, depending on your view of the stormies.)

Marines are grunts. Well, not all Marines are grunts. But some grunts are Marines.

(In military parlance - at least in US Marine parlance - a grunt in an infantryman. Hence the backronym (side-ronym?) POG: Personnel Other than Grunts (it's actually derived from pogue which is clearly French in origin, although I do not recall the exact meaning), a term of derision for support personnel, staff personnel, &c.)

So... The inquisitors do not have identities, or at least personal names. I guess that signifies their total devotion to stamping out the Jedi and promoting the dark side. And it means they don't end up with unpronounceable names like most Star Wars characters.

Well, I'm sure they HAD names. They probably just don't let them use them once they become Inquisitors.

That said, it's kinda weird that they made the Season 1 Inquisitor the Grand Inquisitor. Kinda undercuts the threat when you know all the rest that show up in the series are going to be lower ranked Inquisitors.

I suppose having to fight two at once somewhat mitigates that.

I, too, am disappointed that the Inquisitor in season one was the Grand Inquisitor. I was hoping that position would be held by a former Jedi who agreed to turn to the Dark Side in order to save the lives of younglings under their care. And those younglings became the Inquisitor and the other agents of the Inquisition.

I'm also certain that given the Inquisitors are Dark Siders, that the granting of new names like, "Fifth Brother," and "Seventh Sister," are likely related to the Sith tradition of awarding a new name and the title of Darth to a newly risen Sith Lord. It's also possible that this might be a tradition dating back to the times when the Sith ruled much of the galaxy. And should a Sith Inquisitor achieve sufficient skill and successfully demonstrate it, they might be awarded the title of Darth and a new name to replace the more generic name they had before.

In other words, real Jedi. Kanan was not a real Jedi, since he never even reached the rank of Knight.

That assumes that, in 10 years, he never got good enough to become a Knight on his own.

Jedi Knight is just a rank. It doesn't mean that's your level of skill or mastery with the Force. Especially if there's no one left around to promote you to Knight.

True.

But he's been hiding his lightsaber for fifteen years. He hasn't had many opportunities to train with it and almost none against an opponent with any level of skill, whereas had he been able to continue his training with the Jedi Order, he would have had ample opportunity to spar against opponents of similar skill levels, receive instruction from (and test himself against) those of greater skill levels, and train those of lower skill levels before being awarded the title of Knight. As it is, all that he has basically been able to do is meditate - and even that may be a more recent development after a period of lapse (when he had initially lost his way).

I tried watching rebels again couldn't make it through two episodes I just wanted to scream.

The idea a tie fighter can't hit a slow walker even a glancing blow just makes my blood simmer.

Walkers not being able to hit another walker made it boil.

And the nonsense with the dust storm was the final straw.

This show gets no more chances from me.

Because the Star Wars movies showed the Empire as so competent and accurate. /s

Need I remind people that in the original Star Wars, Darth Vader's hand-picked wingman in the Death Star trench lost the entire battle when he forgot all those years of training at the Academy and crashed into his own leader's ship ?

Arguably, training is exactly what flew him into Vader's ship.

Sure, training has a conscious component, but its subconsciously ingrained reflexes, muscle memory, etc are faster than that, AND once you consider that level you're dealing with lizard-brain base survival instincts, which means "survive by dodging" is faster than either situational awareness (consider sensory input lag), OR conscious decision to "not run into flight lead".

Arguably, training is exactly what flew him into Vader's ship.

Sure, training has a conscious component, but its subconsciously ingrained reflexes, muscle memory, etc are faster than that, AND once you consider that level you're dealing with lizard-brain base survival instincts, which means "survive by dodging" is faster than either situational awareness (consider sensory input lag), OR conscious decision to "not run into flight lead".

I'm pretty sure basic training would involve not panicking the moment your wingmate gets shot and not swerving into your own squad leader, especially when you're a TIE Pilot and flying in large formations is expected. And the pilot even had enough time to shout "look out!" before he lost it.

When one is willing to excuse that pilot's incompetence, incompetence that determined the climax of the movie , I think missing a few shots on a slow-moving walker is easily excusable.

(It's even funnier when you realize that unfortunate pilot who crashed into Vader was Mauler Mithel)

I tried watching rebels again couldn't make it through two episodes I just wanted to scream.

The idea a tie fighter can't hit a slow walker even a glancing blow just makes my blood simmer.

Walkers not being able to hit another walker made it boil.

And the nonsense with the dust storm was the final straw.

This show gets no more chances from me.

There IS a god after all.

Arguably, training is exactly what flew him into Vader's ship.

Sure, training has a conscious component, but its subconsciously ingrained reflexes, muscle memory, etc are faster than that, AND once you consider that level you're dealing with lizard-brain base survival instincts, which means "survive by dodging" is faster than either situational awareness (consider sensory input lag), OR conscious decision to "not run into flight lead".

This, is exactly why flying is for droids.

< --- The real heroes here.

I tried watching rebels again couldn't make it through two episodes I just wanted to scream.

The idea a tie fighter can't hit a slow walker even a glancing blow just makes my blood simmer.

Walkers not being able to hit another walker made it boil.

And the nonsense with the dust storm was the final straw.

This show gets no more chances from me.

Because the Star Wars movies showed the Empire as so competent and accurate. /s

Need I remind people that in the original Star Wars, Darth Vader's hand-picked wingman in the Death Star trench lost the entire battle when he forgot all those years of training at the Academy and crashed into his own leader's ship ?

How does hope start? Remember how only three ships escaped the death star?

Remember hoth?

And I seem to remember the crack rebel assault team getting caught pretty easy on endors Forrest moon.

Sure they can't kill the heroes but the red shirts are constantly beaten by the empire, yet in the siege episode the empire doesn't shoot down a single a-wing.

In rebels the empire is zero threat to anyone including old grannies, when your beating up kids from the special class your not a hero your a bully.

I'm also certain that given the Inquisitors are Dark Siders, that the granting of new names like, "Fifth Brother," and "Seventh Sister," are likely related to the Sith tradition of awarding a new name and the title of Darth to a newly risen Sith Lord. It's also possible that this might be a tradition dating back to the times when the Sith ruled much of the galaxy. And should a Sith Inquisitor achieve sufficient skill and successfully demonstrate it, they might be awarded the title of Darth and a new name to replace the more generic name they had before.

I find this both amusing and infuriating, in all versions of the EU. Dark siders are supposed to be rare and mysterious, if we believe the movies. "Only two there are" etc.

Then in the EU we get "well, that's specifically just these Darth Sith." And then we get Dark Jedi, and Inquisitors, and evil Force Sensitives, and if the Ep VII previews are to be believe the Vader Fan Club of Ren . Seems like every rock we turn over holds a new flavor of Dark Side user.

If we accept that -- man, were the Jedi woefully incompetent!

I find this both amusing and infuriating, in all versions of the EU. Dark siders are supposed to be rare and mysterious, if we believe the movies. "Only two there are" etc.

No, there's only 2 Sith Lords at a time. Not every Dark Side user is a Sith Lord.

Any Force user can fall to the Dark Side.

Hobojebus: Sure they can't kill the heroes but the red shirts are constantly beaten by the empire, yet in the siege episode the empire doesn't shoot down a single a-wing...

Hobojebus doesn't watch the show obviously.

(Edit : spelling)

I find this both amusing and infuriating, in all versions of the EU. Dark siders are supposed to be rare and mysterious, if we believe the movies. "Only two there are" etc.

No, there's only 2 Sith Lords at a time. Not every Dark Side user is a Sith Lord.

Any Force user can fall to the Dark Side.

Similarly, not all Light Siders are Jedi. It was a bit of a missed opportunity to not include the counterparts to the Nightsisters on Dathomir. I think Ahsoka's storyline will cover this a bit.

Still, I don't think many of Inquisitors would be the children we saw in Clone Wars. They wouldn't be much older than Ezra.

Since those things never ended up getting resolved in Clone Wars, I'm curious if Darth Maul or the Nightmother will end up showing up in Rebels.

Talzin was resolved in the Sons of Dathomir comic. Pity that was never made into animation. A LOT of awesome fights.

I do think Mustafar is going to be resolved in the show. That's where the babies were. That's where the Grand Inquisitor took Kanan. And that is where "Jedi disapear". I would not be surprised if Mustafar is where the Inquisitors are trained.

I tried watching rebels again couldn't make it through two episodes I just wanted to scream.

The idea a tie fighter can't hit a slow walker even a glancing blow just makes my blood simmer.

Walkers not being able to hit another walker made it boil.

And the nonsense with the dust storm was the final straw.

This show gets no more chances from me.

Because the Star Wars movies showed the Empire as so competent and accurate. /s

Need I remind people that in the original Star Wars, Darth Vader's hand-picked wingman in the Death Star trench lost the entire battle when he forgot all those years of training at the Academy and crashed into his own leader's ship ?

How does hope start? Remember how only three ships escaped the death star?

Remember hoth?

And I seem to remember the crack rebel assault team getting caught pretty easy on endors Forrest moon.

Sure they can't kill the heroes but the red shirts are constantly beaten by the empire, yet in the siege episode the empire doesn't shoot down a single a-wing.

In rebels the empire is zero threat to anyone including old grannies, when your beating up kids from the special class your not a hero your a bully.

I tried watching rebels again couldn't make it through two episodes I just wanted to scream.

The idea a tie fighter can't hit a slow walker even a glancing blow just makes my blood simmer.

Walkers not being able to hit another walker made it boil.

And the nonsense with the dust storm was the final straw.

This show gets no more chances from me.

Because the Star Wars movies showed the Empire as so competent and accurate. /s

Need I remind people that in the original Star Wars, Darth Vader's hand-picked wingman in the Death Star trench lost the entire battle when he forgot all those years of training at the Academy and crashed into his own leader's ship ?

How does hope start? Remember how only three ships escaped the death star?

Remember hoth?

And I seem to remember the crack rebel assault team getting caught pretty easy on endors Forrest moon.

Sure they can't kill the heroes but the red shirts are constantly beaten by the empire, yet in the siege episode the empire doesn't shoot down a single a-wing.

In rebels the empire is zero threat to anyone including old grannies, when your beating up kids from the special class your not a hero your a bully.

How does hope start? Remember how only three ships escaped the death star?

Remember hoth?

And I seem to remember the crack rebel assault team getting caught pretty easy on endors Forrest moon.

Sure they can't kill the heroes but the red shirts are constantly beaten by the empire, yet in the siege episode the empire doesn't shoot down a single a-wing.

In rebels the empire is zero threat to anyone including old grannies, when your beating up kids from the special class your not a hero your a bully.

Only 3 ships got away from the Death Star, but that's 2 more than the Imperials got away with.

Hoth? Where the Empire once again managed to wrest defeat from the jaws of victory even though they brought multiple Star Destroyers and a Super Star Destroyer?

As for Endor, you have to bear in mind that the Rebels managed to sneak into the base and plant charges before the Empire captured them, and that required a legion of the Empire's best troops (the Emperor's words, not mine). A legion, by definition, contains at least 3000 infantrymen. That's what it took for the Empire to capture a dozen or so Rebels, and they managed to keep them in custody for... what, a few minutes?

The Empire didn't shoot down a single A-wing in the Siege of Lothal? Maybe you gave up before watching the whole thing, because the Rebels ended that episode with 2 A-wings remaning out of at least a dozen.

You don't like the show, that's fine, but it f you want to somehow prove that it's objectively bad, you're going to need to cite better examples.

I'm not talking about the end fight with vader i'm talking about the raid at the start.

I'm not talking about the end fight with vader i'm talking about the raid at the start.

So is Brawndo but you've ignored this simple fact.

I'm not talking about the end fight with vader i'm talking about the raid at the start.

But why are you still here? I mean, you said you hated the show so why are you still here?

When I said I hated Halo 4 you bet your Ion Engines I packed my bags and left, doing my best not to discuss that mess of a game whenever possible.