Too Many Bothans... [Mafia]

By ovinomanc3r, in Star Wars: Armada Off-Topic

no recruit. no infiltration. no scum. Ovi is trying to see how long we all go at one another until we give up.

my intel

My intel was that ebon was infiltrated

##vote ebonhawk for now, but id honestly rather go after bigger fish

Just now, Madaghmire said:

My intel was that ebon was infiltrated

maybe my intel last night was sent by a scum team, it could be designed to throw us off..

it does imply someone other than ovi is sending this intel though

Just now, Madaghmire said:

##vote ebonhawk for now, but id honestly rather go after bigger fish

fair, fwiw I have no info of being recruited, I even asked Ovi if the message came from Mod and he said No, so someone in game or out of game is sending the intel.. and infiltration could mean Im now just getting duds don't wont help us, only lead us astray

I do have L-1 info to share, but at L-1 only otherwise with lack of NKs happy to sit on it for now

Okay, sorry that I couldn't share my info from yesterday until hammer.

Yesterday's message: MADAGHMIRE IS TOWN

Today's message: SCUM VISITED BIGGSIRL AND GHOST OF NOBODY IN PARTICULAR

My apologies for leading us to kill Pod so early. I really thought he was trying to sabotage the game EOD D2.

If Biggs' theory is correct, then Ebon was infiltrated N1 and Pod N2. But infiltrated doesn't necessarily mean recruited. If scum could recruit once per night that would be insanely overpowered.

If infiltration means simply bad information, and scum's goal is to infiltrate everyone (but maybe they cannot recruit or NK), then we cannot trust intel from Pod or Ebon (since Pod's N1 information was only a weird "wait until N2" message).

##vote @PodRacer

Note that @Bertie Wooster and @ebon hawk have both been pushing hard on Pod so if he flips town that'll be telling

Crap ignore that please. That was a saved post that accidentally went through. Analysis to follow..

On 2/10/2020 at 1:25 PM, EbonHawk said:

##vote @PodRacer Lynch All Liars.

Voting on principle for future games.

On 2/10/2020 at 1:41 PM, Bertie Wooster said:

##vote PodRacer

That end-of-day stuff looks like he was deliberately sabotaging the vote.

I'm really puzzled by the lack of kills though. I'm not sure if we have a doc or if infiltration replaces the night kill.

Was anyone roleblocked?

On 2/10/2020 at 5:14 PM, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

##vote @PodRacer

Not just for the LaL policy.

By his own admission his info said he could trust Bertie. Bertie said Mad's info was solid, Mad said scum visited Pod.

Plus, didn't somebody get the result that Pod's info wasn't infiltrated, on a day when he claimed he didn't receive any?

On 2/10/2020 at 6:24 PM, Madaghmire said:

##vote podracer

On 2/10/2020 at 8:49 PM, FortyInRed said:

##vote @PodRacer

Note that @Bertie Wooster and @ebon hawk have both been pushing hard on Pod so if he flips town that'll be telling

Above is the voting record for day 3 as far as I can tell.

Here is my intel:

JUDGE RESULT : TWO SCUM WERE ON YESTERDAY’S VOTE

I'm pretty sure one of Bertie or Ebon are scum at this point.

Oh dear @EbonHawk is at L-2. Let's try not to get too crazy with the voting before we know more intel.

Caldias' intel is very interesting, because this is the third time intel tells us scum visited two people. I still don't trust Caldias though, but if he's scum that's a big gamble, since someone else may have intel today that says scum visited two people. (My intel is not that intel BTW.)

13 minutes ago, Bertie Wooster said:

. I still don't trust Caldias though,

Funny because you're #2 on my scum list. You were pretty hard on the pod train...

13 minutes ago, FortyInRed said:

Funny because you're #2 on my scum list. You were pretty hard on the pod train...

But you lynched him with half a day left. That wasn't particlarly townie either.

2 hours ago, FortyInRed said:

Funny because you're #2 on my scum list. You were pretty hard on the pod train...

Fair point.

2 hours ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

But you lynched him with half a day left. That wasn't particlarly townie either.

I'm pretty sure Forty is town though. I can see why people aren't sure about me.

My intel last night said EbonHawk is not town. However, I'm curious to see if someone has intel that suggest scum visited me last night--that could imply my intel was infiltrated.

I got roleblocked.

Again.

It's getting really, really old.

I'm not inclined to put Ebon at -1 quite yet, because if I'm wrong scum can they turbo him and if they're at 3 players they win.

I'd suggest @EbonHawk that you spill whatever -1 information you have because -2 is pretty close to -1.

11 hours ago, BiggsIRL said:

I'd suggest @EbonHawk that you spill whatever -1 information you have because -2 is pretty close to -1.

Coming

Okay so Pod was visited we all know, we assumed he was recruited, yet he flopped town.

I was visited not last night, the night before and was told: You're now scum, you're a traitor, KILL bertie (all in Bold).

Now I found this odd and as said messaged Ovi and asked, is this message from the MOD? HE SAID NO

That means my role hasn't changed, after all if I were a traitor I would've had my alignment changed by mod and entered a chat, neither of which happened.

Now as you can see I didn't do as scum wanted and I helped Bertie instead, as I believe I'm still town, I went for Pod as chance he also had the same message as me or was scum.

Either way I believe we have maybe 1 anti-town and its a game of bull ******** the bull *****, as I believe I'm town I'm happy to be hung.

1 of 2 things happens.

1) I'm wrong and hang scum

2) I'm right and hang town, which then asks many questions about my recruitment message, and also about the game.

If 2 is correct, due to biggs being roleblocked I'd say Mad/Gnips is the lone traitor, as due to the recuit message saying kill Bertie, I think he is town

So again while I had that message 2 days ago, my intel last night was back to normal and is what I posted day start, why if I were recruited would I have normal info and no scum info? Because I'm still town

either way happy to take the lynch to prove this and if I flop town you know you're dealing with 1 anti-town max imo, if I'm wrong I'm still helping the Rebels

20 hours ago, Caldias said:

Okay, sorry that I couldn't share my info from yesterday until hammer.

Yesterday's message: MADAGHMIRE IS TOWN

Today's message: SCUM VISITED BIGGSIRL AND GHOST OF NOBODY IN PARTICULAR

WOAH.

IF true, then Bertie is town because scum wanted me to help kill him, and by your own admission so are mad and gnips?

So its you LOL

##vote @Caldias

20 hours ago, Bertie Wooster said:

If infiltration means simply bad information, and scum's goal is to infiltrate everyone (but maybe they cannot recruit or NK), then we cannot trust intel from Pod or Ebon (since Pod's N1 information was only a weird "wait until N2" message).

I believe this to be true, as someone with less experience then myself may have believed their intel instead of questioning the MOD

20 hours ago, FortyInRed said:

JUDGE RESULT : TWO SCUM WERE ON YESTERDAY’S VOTE

I'm pretty sure one of Bertie or Ebon are scum at this point.

Well if you believe me I got a recruit message and was told to kill Bertie, hence me helping him, and going for Pod.

AS pod hung town and was infiltrated, I don't believe we have a recruit (again shown by Ovi admitting the scum message was my INTEL not a MOD message)

19 hours ago, Bertie Wooster said:

Oh dear @EbonHawk is at L-2. Let's try not to get too crazy with the voting before we know more intel.

Caldias' intel is very interesting, because this is the third time intel tells us scum visited two people. I still don't trust Caldias though, but if he's scum that's a big gamble, since someone else may have intel today that says scum visited two people. (My intel is not that intel BTW.)

think he slipped up given my info now