1 hour ago, jagsba said:

From the tournament regulations. At a premier level event (e.g. a system open) "Players should be familiar with not only the game rules, but also the most recent FAQ and tournament regulations."

System opens are the one time where you really do have to look at a dude and say 'you should know better'

Yes, but the correct answer seems stupid. Getting outmaneuver in the front 90 arc isn’t trivial on these (or Auzitucks), so I’m personally hoping that they change this ruling down the line. (Spoiler: they won’t)

3 hours ago, Tlfj200 said:

The fact people are just now discovering moralo is shocking.

Fun... and interesting...

I ran him opening weekend back in September. Went 3-1 with him and Boba, but then I tried other wingmen for Boba and never went back to Moralo.

Might be worth a look again... I really like him with Lando crew or Jabba and Cybernetics.

7 hours ago, Brunas said:

@Oldpara on stream! You won't see this till later, but avenge me vs Tyler!

Also, did you go to the Mustafar System Open in Texas a few years ago? There was a Polish guy I played there who was cool (who trashed me IIRC) and clearly all Polish people are the same, so there's a good chance it was you 😛

Where can I see the stream?

Found it!

9 hours ago, LagJanson said:

I've been using Asajj specifically. One of my preferred Scum choices to reach for. I just don't really have much selection of Scum ships and it's not my X-Wings and Y-Wings so it doesn't get out much. My reports are anecdotal at best, but seeing Old Para's run makes me wonder a bit if I may actually have something.

Have you tried Moralo?

If you want to really jank the place up, throw Hound’s Tooth on Moralo so that you can smuggle Kaa’to Leeachos into your opponent’s backyard and drop a double modded missile on some unsuspecting rube (Z95 TL’s, Moralo focus, Z95 steals the focus). The downside is you basically need to scoop right after because that’s pretty much all you have going for you, and ‘surprise missile’ isn’t exactly a decisive blow... 😅

2 hours ago, Tlfj200 said:

Have you tried Moralo?

Tried? I don’t even own a 666!

24 minutes ago, DoubleDown11 said:

If you want to really jank the place up, throw Hound’s Tooth on Moralo so that you can smuggle Kaa’to Leeachos into your opponent’s backyard and drop a double modded missile on some unsuspecting rube (Z95 TL’s, Moralo focus, Z95 steals the focus). The downside is you basically need to scoop right after because that’s pretty much all you have going for you, and ‘surprise missile’ isn’t exactly a decisive blow... 😅

Vader/Phantoms all over the place! Look what you did!

1 hour ago, LagJanson said:

Vader/Phantoms all over the place! Look what you did!

I guess people are taking notice of that list since the Toronto System Open. I am too since that is what I plan to fly in Denver for their System Open.

1 hour ago, LagJanson said:

Vader/Phantoms all over the place! Look what you did!

Such a diverse place.

4 minutes ago, Tlfj200 said:

Such a diverse place.

Well I did see a Ghost list on stream yesterday and now people are talking about Moralo Evaal at Adepticon. So possibly.

*looks at live stream*

*sees Quad Phantoms*

Brace yourselves, screeching and reeeeeing about TIE Phantoms are coming.

PS-LEAVE TIE PHANTOMS ALONE YOU BASTARDS!!

Just now, AgentoftheEmpire said:

*looks at live stream*

*sees Quad Phantoms*

Brace yourselves, screeching and reeeeeing about TIE Phantoms are coming.

PS-LEAVE TIE PHANTOMS ALONE YOU BASTARDS!!

7/8 empire lists contain a phantom in the cut.

26 minutes ago, AgentoftheEmpire said:

*looks at live stream*

*sees Quad Phantoms*

Brace yourselves, screeching and reeeeeing about TIE Phantoms are coming.

PS-LEAVE TIE PHANTOMS ALONE YOU BASTARDS!!

🤨 They should have upped the Sigma instead of Juke during the last points adjust. That being said, quad Phantom isn't invincible.

13 minutes ago, Hiemfire said:

🤨 They should have upped the Sigma instead of Juke during the last points adjust. That being said, quad Phantom isn't invincible.

I think people assume complaints means "overpowered", rather than "unfun" or "uninteresting", and are not always tied together.

1 hour ago, Hiemfire said:

quad Phantom isn't invincible.

As was just proven.

@Biophysical I respect the **** out of this:

https://raithos.github.io/?f=Galactic Empire&d=v6!s=200!181:116,,:;181:116,,:;181:116,,:;181:116,,:;172:116,,:&sn=Unnamed Squadron&obs=

Haha Adepticon is getting better and better. Top16, Han Norra (Arc!) Jake (!!) by Nathan vs Ryan Fleming with Cassian Ten Braylen Dutch.

1 hour ago, Brunas said:

@Biophysical I respect the **** out of this:

https://raithos.github.io/?f=Galactic Empire&d=v6!s=200!181:116,,:;181:116,,:;181:116,,:;181:116,,:;172:116,,:&sn=Unnamed Squadron&obs=

Me too... @Biophysical is going to force my hand to delve back into squints I fear.

@Jeff Wilder in the worlds longest turnaround, I agree with you on fortressing. It's become clear (to me) that people are willing to do it outside of their opponents also refusing to play the game.

Sucks - wish the anti-fortressing rules were actually enforced, or strong enough that people felt like they could enforce them, or whatever.

2 hours ago, Brunas said:

@Jeff Wilder in the worlds longest turnaround, I agree with you on fortressing. It's become clear (to me) that people are willing to do it outside of their opponents also refusing to play the game.

Sucks - wish the anti-fortressing rules were actually enforced, or strong enough that people felt like they could enforce them, or whatever.

I could be wrong, but the specificity of the new rule seems to have actually made other forms that don't fit it permissible and unenforceable. Good intent, poor implementation?

Is there a way to see how the top cut went on BCP? Or is that not a feature available to mere mortals like it would be on Tabletop.to?

15 minutes ago, AlexW said:

I could be wrong, but the specificity of the new rule seems to have actually made other forms that don't fit it permissible and unenforceable. Good intent, poor implementation?

Like Eide's 3 rounds of bumping Norra Wexely into Jake Farrell while Han played bait. As long as at least 1 ship is moving the rules don't count it as fortressing.

57 minutes ago, drjkel said:

Is there a way to see how the top cut went on BCP? Or is that not a feature available to mere mortals like it would be on Tabletop.to?

I won't do top32. Also only first names

• Top4:
  • Nathan 200 vs Jake 100
    • losing list: Cassain Magva Ten Braylen
  • Tyler 200 vs Brandon 100
    • losing list: Countdown + 3 Phantoms
• Top8:
  • Nathan 200 vs Big Chungus 95
    • losing list: Quad Phantom
  • Tyler 200 vs Adam 76
    • losing list: ZebLeia + BBXX
  • Brandon 200 vs Joe 100
    • losing list: Vader + 3 Phantoms
  • Jake 200 vs Alberto 80
    • losing list: AP5Leia, Wedge, Corran, Phoenix (so cool!)
• Top16:
  • Nathan 200 vs Ryan 29
    • losing list: Braylen Ten Dutch Cassian+Leia
  • Aaron 124 vs Tyler 200
    • losing list: LeiaPartisan +XBZZZ
  • Brandon 100 vs Brad 0
    • losing list: Kylo + 2 Ups
  • Jake 176 vs Justin 153
    • losing list: Quad Phantom
  • Alberto 200 vs Bronce 127
    • losing list: Quad Phantom
  • Joe 200 vs Taylor 114
    • losing list: Kylo QD SKBP
  • Hasan 98 vs Adam 108
    • losing list: Vader + 3 Phantoms
  • Big Chungus 200 vs @RStan 126 (with 5 Awings ❤️ )

So the top16 saw a lot of Phantoms, total of 25 over 7 lists - basically half the top16

edit: and the listfortress entry for exact lists by Brunas & friends (thanks again to all of you!)

Above and beyond, thanks @GreenDragoon!

https://listfortress.com/tournaments/495

It seems almost completly filled

6 out of 27 in the cut were 4 Phantoms (actually one had Countdown as 4th ship but whatever) and there also was a Vader + 3 Imdaar.

On a rough count, there were other 11 who brought 4 phantoms that didnt make the cut.

There were also 5 four ships rebel and other 2 rebel beef with more than four ships in the cut.

3 out of 10 Kylo made the cut while 3 out of 18 poe did the same.

Only 2 Scum lists were in the cut

1 out of 3 5A made the cut (the other 2 barely missed it thought).

4 Han Solo were in the cut from 3 different factions.

Surprising no one, all rebel lists in the cut had Leia.

A Rexler Brat made the cut.

Basically half the cut was either 4 Phantoms or Leia's Beef