[Question] Kobold Bonus

By Toadie1981, in Road to Legend

We have some question abaout the Kobold action with the Bonus:

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Each hero immediateky tests Knowledge. Each hero who fails places 1 kobold adjacent to another kobold.

1. Do familiars also have to test? So there is a automatic failure and a kobold will be placed?

2. Because there is the same text for minions and master, this happens two times? So a familiar places two kobolds?

3. Masters will be placed first?

4. A group with two familiars will automatic place two master and two minions additional to the hero results?

1. No, familiars are not directly targeted by Road to Legend Special effects (top part of the activation window).

2. This is an immediate one-time effect that in independent of the activation of individual minion or master monsters. Group limits have to be respected.

3. Yes.

4. No, familiars are irrelevant, see above. Newly placed kobolds do not trigger the placement of additional kobolds. That would result in always placing the whole group.

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1. No, familiars are not directly targeted by Road to Legend Special effects (top part of the activation window).

Where does this information come from ? I only read, that familiars , which are treated as heroes, are not effected by perils and quest events.

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2. This is an immediate one-time effect that in independent of the activation of individual minion or master monsters. Group limits have to be respected.

We think there are more Road to Legend Special effects, which are independent of the activation of individual minion or master monsters, but we have not yet recognized a syntax or keyword for it.

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4. No, familiars are irrelevant, see above. Newly placed kobolds do not trigger the placement of additional kobolds. That would result in always placing the whole group.

We don't expect a spawning loop. Our interpretation (four kobolts) came from two familiars * two time spawining (minion activation + master activation) = four.

1. Familiars treated as figures can only be targeted or affected by attacks, Monster actions, Hero abilities and feats, hero skills, abilities of items, relics, Search cards and Overlord cards. Familiars treated as figures are not affected by ally skills, quest rules that refer to heroes, Plot cards, travel events, Rumor cards and all other game effects unless specifically noted otherwise.
This has been confirmed in uFAQs. As the special effect in this activation window is not among the things that affect familiars, it has no effect.

2. It is usually explicitly given in the text, such as "after each monster activation" or similar.

4. I see. So the fourth question is actually identical to the first one, right?

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1. Familiars treated as figures can only be targeted or affected by attacks, Monster actions, Hero abilities and feats, hero skills, abilities of items, relics, Search cards and Overlord cards. Familiars treated as figures are not affected by ally skills, quest rules that refer to heroes, Plot cards, travel events, Rumor cards and all other game effects unless specifically noted otherwise.
This has been confirmed in uFAQs. As the special effect in this activation window is not among the things that affect familiars, it has no effect.

Thanks a lot, that's a definition i was looking for ^^

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2. It is usually explicitly given in the text, such as "after each monster activation" or similar

Sometimes this is right, but in the given example

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Each hero immediately tests Knowledge. Each hero who fails places 1 kobold adjacent to another kobold.

Because of "immediately" it looks like the opposite.
So you could read it "when the minions get activate each hero immediately tests Knowledge" and "when the masters get activate each hero immediately tests Knowledge".
It would be easier , i f the text were "After all kobold activation each hero tests Knowledge. Each hero who fails places 1 kobold adjacent to another kobold."

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4. I see. So the fourth question is actually identical to the first one, right?

Yes the fourth question is a summery of the first three.