On 9/21/2018 at 4:41 PM, TallGiraffe said:

I really want a new campaign with new ship variants

Me too. But I'm pretty burned out on expecting FFG to put any effort into this game.

I was so wrong on my WEight timing predictions (but kinda right calling it WEight becuaase my main prediciton was this wave was going to be HEAVY, hence WEight) and got so bummed out by the 'no news' cycle... very happy the game gets it's SSD and it can be used in normal play. It's kept me satiated for news. Even if we don't get any WEighty news, we might get a run down on the epic-scale or however that will work.

2 hours ago, dominosfleet said:

Me too. But I'm pretty burned out on expecting FFG to put any effort into this game.

Nobody noticed yet.

14 hours ago, eliteone said:

Even if we don't get any WEighty news

Given the time between waves, I don't think the game will be around long enough to get there.

1 hour ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Given the time between waves, I don't think the game will be around long enough to get there.

Hurray! Pessimism is back! Since the announcement of the Super Star Destroyer 7 weeks ago there has been a lack in doom and gloom "Armada is dead" posts.

I really missed them! Thank you very much for helping me out!

28 minutes ago, Triangular said:

Hurray! Pessimism is back! Since the announcement of the Super Star Destroyer 7 weeks ago there has been a lack in doom and gloom "Armada is dead" posts.

I really missed them! Thank you very much for helping me out!

I was joking. Making a pun with his use of WEighty as in Wave Eight type, and turning it into WEighty, as in Wave Eighty. That would be around 72 years from now by current release schedules. Possibly only 36.

56 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

I was joking. Making a pun with his use of WEighty as in Wave Eight type, and turning it into WEighty, as in Wave Eighty. That would be around 72 years from now by current release schedules. Possibly only 36.

Heh, I can't blame the Triangular for taking it that way. There was so much doom and gloom it was depressing, thos effects have not been fully mitigated by the SSD announcement.

In other news has the meta come yp with any new names like the Fire-Dics or Doom Pickle? I get a kick out of meta-naming.

7 hours ago, eliteone said:

Heh, I can't blame the Triangular for taking it that way. There was so much doom and gloom it was depressing, thos effects have not been fully mitigated by the SSD announcement.

In other news has the meta come yp with any new names like the Fire-Dics or Doom Pickle? I get a kick out of meta-naming.

9 hours ago, Triangular said:

Hurray! Pessimism is back! Since the announcement of the Super Star Destroyer 7 weeks ago there has been a lack in doom and gloom "Armada is dead" posts.

I really missed them! Thank you very much for helping me out!

It's so weird to me that people are surprised that the SSD did next to nothing to change the overall mood of the forums. Lol they announced 1 ship in the past 13 months for a faction, like, at what point is it ok to be concerned about the well being for the game you enjoy playing?

17 hours ago, dominosfleet said:

It's so weird to me that people are surprised that the SSD did next to nothing to change the overall mood of the forums. Lol they announced 1 ship in the past 13 months for a faction, like, at what point is it ok to be concerned about the well being for the game you enjoy playing? 

I wholeheartedly disagree with you, Sir. When I joined, 2 months ago, the forum was really all "Doom & Gloom" and toxic. Which never helps a game getting better, by the way. People working at FFG will check the community pulse from time to time, even if they can't post, and seeing a toxic community makes them more likely to view the game as a goner.

Then, they announced SSD expansion, and the toxicity went away, and we had 5/6 weeks of happy discussions about the SSD, and evolution of other aspects of the game. Day dreaming, sure, but positive, optimist day dreaming.

And positive and optimist for a good reason.

Producing a beast such as the SSD is a HUGE risk for a company. You don't take risk on a game you are going to drop. (And no, people working in a business industry don't view the last moment of a game as "the perfect time to take huge financial risk for a chance at reviving the product". That's gambling, not business ). The ship is huge. It was, reportedly, a pain to produce. It's going to cost an arm (meaning it's also more expensive to make, meaning any model not sold is going to hurt them). They are not taking such a risk on a game they are looking to close.

Someone accurately said "Look at the support they are giving to Runewars". They have no reason to drop Armada, and the SSD announcement showed us we have no reason to think so. They are (quite criminally, I'll admit) focusing on other games for way too long, but it's not a reason to be worried.

It's a reason to post on a regular basis, to remind them we exist and are expecting news about Armada. And post positive stuff, as I said, toxic messages only helps killing a game faster by killing any love the producing company might have for the game.

Yes, I’m sure the SSD IS a huge risk, and good communication or no I’m very grateful they made it. I can’t wait to own one.

10 hours ago, dominosfleet said:

It's so weird to me that people are surprised that the SSD did next to nothing to change the overall mood of the forums. Lol they announced 1 ship in the past 13 months for a faction, like, at what point is it ok to be concerned about the well being for the game you enjoy playing?

Don't pretend that this has anything to do with the number of ships or the time between waves.

The overall mood changed. You didn't and that's why you do not see it.

14 hours ago, dominosfleet said:

It's so weird to me that people are surprised that the SSD did next to nothing to change the overall mood of the forums. Lol they announced 1 ship in the past 13 months for a faction, like, at what point is it ok to be concerned about the well being for the game you enjoy playing?

They announced not only 1 model for 1 faction but also a whole new game mode. There have been long discussions about higher point limits. We will get it! Armada doesn't develop very fast, but it evolves good. I'm totally okay with its speed, because I couldn't afford 200 bucks every 3 month for plastic space ships. And usually it takes me several month to explore the possibilities of a new release anyway.

In my eyes is all this moaning for new releases and more articles not very much adult behavior.

6 hours ago, Triangular said:

They announced not only 1 model for 1 faction but also a whole new game mode. There have been long discussions about higher point limits. We will get it! Armada doesn't develop very fast, but it evolves good. I'm totally okay with its speed, because I couldn't afford 200 bucks every 3 month for plastic space ships. And usually it takes me several month to explore the possibilities of a new release anyway.

In my eyes is all this moaning for new releases and more articles not very much adult behavior.

No one is asking for every three months. But at least something more then once a year would be nice.

I'm OK with one expansion per year, if it's as well designed as the previous expansions and every faction gets something. At least my wallet won't be as light as I expected

19 hours ago, Coranhann said:

I wholeheartedly disagree with you, Sir. When I joined, 2 months ago, the forum was really all "Doom & Gloom" and toxic. Which never helps a game getting better, by the way. People working at FFG will check the community pulse from time to time, even if they can't post, and seeing a toxic community makes them more likely to view the game as a goner.

Then, they announced SSD expansion, and the toxicity went away, and we had 5/6 weeks of happy discussions about the SSD, and evolution of other aspects of the game. Day dreaming, sure, but positive, optimist day dreaming.

And positive and optimist for a good reason.

Producing a beast such as the SSD is a HUGE risk for a company. You don't take risk on a game you are going to drop. (And no, people working in a business industry don't view the last moment of a game as "the perfect time to take huge financial risk for a chance at reviving the product". That's gambling, not business ). The ship is huge. It was, reportedly, a pain to produce. It's going to cost an arm (meaning it's also more expensive to make, meaning any model not sold is going to hurt them). They are not taking such a risk on a game they are looking to close.

Someone accurately said "Look at the support they are giving to Runewars". They have no reason to drop Armada, and the SSD announcement showed us we have no reason to think so. They are (quite criminally, I'll admit) focusing on other games for way too long, but it's not a reason to be worried.

It's a reason to post on a regular basis, to remind them we exist and are expecting news about Armada. And post positive stuff, as I said, toxic messages only helps killing a game faster by killing any love the producing company might have for the game.

Lol ya, it's the negativity thats making people become bored with the lack of communication and half release this year. yep, that's it. My favorite part is that since you've only been playing 2 months you probably don't know about the hyperspace report.

7 hours ago, Triangular said:

They announced not only 1 model for 1 faction but also a whole new game mode. There have been long discussions about higher point limits. We will get it! Armada doesn't develop very fast, but it evolves good. I'm totally okay with its speed, because I couldn't afford 200 bucks every 3 month for plastic space ships. And usually it takes me several month to explore the possibilities of a new release anyway.

In my eyes is all this moaning for new releases and more articles not very much adult behavior.

Man, a whole new mode. That went pretty well in X-wing, I'm sure it'll do great in armada too. I get that you can't afford a 200 dollar release, no one's asking for that. Most of the community wants 2 to 3 releases a year of 20 to 50 dollar ships. Instead ffg is putting out half a release at 200, it's weird to me that you don't see that as an issue.

12 hours ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Don't pretend that this has anything to do with the number of ships or the time between waves.

The overall mood changed. You didn't and that's why you do not see it.

Yep, it's only me, I'm the only person on the forums that's been bummed out the past (looks at watch) since august last year. but hey, ya, the mood is way better, some guy was trying to name his SSD already on here ( I still vote for "kevin")



nope, you guys are right, FFG is perfect, nothing wrong here, move along.

I do agree about how toxic this community has gotten though, People like @ovinomanc3r jumped down my throat for suggesting everything wasn't bring and shiny.

36 minutes ago, Norell said:

I'm OK with one expansion per year, if it's as well designed as the previous expansions and every faction gets something. At least my wallet won't be as light as I expected

I generally agree with this. All i really need is an idea about what's going to be happening. In this case they put out a blurb 2 months ago about how that 2 year old thread is finally getting its wish, Radio silence since.

17 hours ago, dominosfleet said:

Lol ya, it's the negativity thats making people become bored with the lack of communication and half release this year. yep, that's it. My favorite part is that since you've only been playing 2 months you probably don't know about the hyperspace report.

Man, a whole new mode. That went pretty well in X-wing, I'm sure it'll do great in armada too. I get that you can't afford a 200 dollar release, no one's asking for that. Most of the community wants 2 to 3 releases a year of 20 to 50 dollar ships. Instead ffg is putting out half a release at 200, it's weird to me that you don't see that as an issue.

Yep, it's only me, I'm the only person on the forums that's been bummed out the past (looks at watch) since august last year. but hey, ya, the mood is way better, some guy was trying to name his SSD already on here ( I still vote for "kevin")



nope, you guys are right, FFG is perfect, nothing wrong here, move along.

I do agree about how toxic this community has gotten though, People like @ovinomanc3r jumped down my throat for suggesting everything wasn't bring and shiny.

I never suggested ffg is perfect. Please go and look for that.

I am just exhausted about you.

You say most people want 2-3 releases. Well I am not and actually no one of the 20 people we manage to put together for regionals.

You say people are still burnt with the state of Armada but I didn't see an Armada is dead thread since the SSD announcement. Yeah people await for news about the SSD or wave 8 but even they know news will come eventually.

I have to say that the only toxic post I read time to time are yours. If there are more then I am lucky for being able to avoid such crappy stuff during the time I spend here.

And don't get me wrong. You can hate ffg, Armada or even me and express it here (who am I at the end) but you already did. We got it, thanks! We are not ffg, we don't need you to remind us what you think about whatever and ffg seems to not read the forum anyways so move on.

The only thing more frustrating than not having news is to come to this thread looking for some silly speculation or fun discussion and find the Grinch.

1 hour ago, ovinomanc3r said:

I never suggested ffg is perfect. Please go and look for that.

I am just exhausted about you.

You say most people want 2-3 releases. Well I am not and actually no one of the 20 people we manage to put together for regionals.

You say people are still burnt with the state of Armada but I didn't see an Armada is dead thread since the SSD announcement. Yeah people await for news about the SSD or wave 8 but even they know news will come eventually.

I have to say that the only toxic post I read time to time are yours. If there are more then I am lucky for being able to avoid such crappy stuff during the time I spend here.

And don't get me wrong. You can hate ffg, Armada or even me and express it here (who am I at the end) but you already did. We got it, thanks! We are not ffg, we don't need you to remind us what you think about whatever and ffg seems to not read the forum anyways so move on.

Do you know what I do with my ****? I go to the wc and throw it there. I don't share it with you.

The only thing more frustrating than not having news is to come to this thread looking for some silly speculation or fun discussion and find the Grinch.

I mean, if you've talked to 20 people and none of them have said they want move than half a release a year i guess I stand corrected. That's clearly gonna be how FFG sustains itself, 1 release a year at a 200 dollar price point to catch the casual fan such as you and your 20 friends that agree at one another.

2 minutes ago, dominosfleet said:

I mean, if you've talked to 20 people and none of them have said they want move than half a release a year i guess I stand corrected. That's clearly gonna be how FFG sustains itself, 1 release a year at a 200 dollar price point to catch the casual fan such as you and your 20 friends that agree at one another.

Maybe you should count those who wrote above also. You're the only one I know who want 2-3. I guess there will be more but as neither you or me can proof their numbers as correct and those numbers won't take the majority of actual players who cares. Ffg schedule are closer to what I think that what you think and I guess its numbers are better than ours.

5 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Maybe you should count those who wrote above also. You're the only one I know who want 2-3. I guess there will be more but as neither you or me can proof their numbers as correct and those numbers won't take the majority of actual players who cares. Ffg schedule are closer to what I think that what you think and I guess its numbers are better than ours.

It's true, I've never seen anyone ever complain about a half release or 1 release a year. So far the only numbers we can reliably go off are you and your 20 friends. Case closed, checkmate.

IN FACT, the ONLY complaint I've ever seen on these forums has been "WHY AM I DROWNING IN MODELS, FFG SLOW DOWN WITH YOUR CRAZED RELEASE SCHEDULE".

Edit:...for Armada

::shrug::

We know FFG isn’t going out of business or losing the SW license at this point.

WHY do we assume the game ITSELF has to be self sustaining?

Perhaps it is literally a fun pet project that is worked on when the developers want and can, and indeed, the more unstable rules and release games are unstable and in flux TO PAY for the relative sanctity of Armada?

I mean, I guess I’m asking:

Do we have any proof that, for FFG, Poor Sales = or ~ A dropped game?

16 minutes ago, dominosfleet said:

It's true, I've never seen anyone ever complain about a half release or 1 release a year. So far the only numbers we can reliably go off are you and your 20 friends. Case closed, checkmate.

IN FACT, the ONLY complaint I've ever seen on these forums has been "WHY AM I DROWNING IN MODELS, FFG SLOW DOWN WITH YOUR CRAZED RELEASE SCHEDULE".

Edit:...for Armada

Well let me put this other way:

@dominosfleet I ask you politely for just posting your complaints about ffg PR policy and production schedule just one a month? May you? I mean, we all are already aware about that and ffg keeps us updated everyday about that not changing. Would that be so hard?

Please keep posting as much as you want about everything else in order to keep this community alive.

Thanks in advance.

Sgd. @ovinomanc3r (I am not going to pretend to be talking for anyone else).

9 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

::shrug::

We know FFG isn’t going out of business or losing the SW license at this point.

WHY do we assume the game ITSELF has to be self sustaining?

Perhaps it is literally a fun pet project that is worked on when the developers want and can, and indeed, the more unstable rules and release games are unstable and in flux TO PAY for the relative sanctity of Armada?

6 minutes ago, Drasnighta said:

I mean, I guess I’m asking:

Do we have any proof that, for FFG, Poor Sales = or ~ A dropped game?

Seems like more of a reach that a for profit company would have a "fun" division though, right? I doubt Asmotee bought them thinking "oh neat, that area is a money sink but they enjoy it so it's ok"

honestly at this point I'm mostly just messing with Ovi for complaining that my "half a release a year isn't a good business model" statement . Luckily he has 20 friends that disagree with me so I've been shown the error of my ways.

39 minutes ago, dominosfleet said:

Seems like more of a reach that a for profit company would have a "fun" division though, right? I doubt Asmotee bought them thinking "oh neat, that area is a money sink but they enjoy it so it's ok"

honestly at this point I'm mostly just messing with Ovi for complaining that my "half a release a year isn't a good business model" statement . Luckily he has 20 friends that disagree with me so I've been shown the error of my ways.

You have to admit though - they certainly SEEM, as a business, to defy business trends on individual projects as long as their overall margin is positive ...

Theirvexpansion into digital design will only help that too - it’s certainly letting them be experimental with “unique” board games...