2 hours ago, Alzer said:

*raises his hand sheepishly*

Neither have I.

I had it on authority that he peaked with Ghostbusters and Stripes, and left it with that.

Oh well I really must object.

The Royal Tenenbaums. Zombieland. Rushmore. The Jungle Book for crying out loud. The Grand Budapest Hotel. Monuments Men.

HYDE PARK ON HUDSON.

The man who knew too little.

Massively underrated (that's not a movie, just my opinion).

But Groundhog Day is probably my favourite of his movies.

49 minutes ago, LTD said:

Oh well I really must object.

The Royal Tenenbaums. Zombieland. Rushmore. The Jungle Book for crying out loud. The Grand Budapest Hotel. Monuments Men.

HYDE PARK ON HUDSON.

The man who knew too little.

Massively underrated (that's not a movie, just my opinion).

But Groundhog Day is probably my favourite of his movies.

Life acuatic, The darjeeling limited...

I really liked those two. I don't know if I would count darjeeling though but whatever.

I wonder if the Luke-warm response to TLJ/Solo has made FFG rethink the future of Armada - wether they have decided there isn’t much to be gained from adding anymore ships.

Personally I’d rather they realise one or two plastic preprinted stations you could add to your fleet as either long range ordinance, fighter platforms or special support objectives.

4 minutes ago, Bakura83 said:

I wonder if the Luke-warm response to TLJ/Solo has made FFG rethink the future of Armada - wether they have decided there isn’t much to be gained from adding anymore ships.

Personally I’d rather they realise one or two plastic preprinted stations you could add to your fleet as either long range ordinance, fighter platforms or special support objectives.

I think lack of proper space battles in both movies did not help the game. At TLJ, instead of having a one sided shooting battle, if it had proper fleet action, I think a lot of more people would be into ship to ship battle ( think Rogue One's contribution to the game)

Also at Solo, I wish they introduced, either VSD or Dreadnought, or a new design ship. Also ISD did not have any major presence in the movie, X-Wing benefited from new Ties and Millienium Falcon, but for Armada, it was a missed chance. If both movies has significant action as in Rogue One or Return of the Jedi, interest for the game would be much higher, which I am sure FFG is monitoring.

In regards to the XWing article, at least best girl Seyn gets a decent ability. Heck, all the TIEs have decent abilities.

6 hours ago, Bakura83 said:

I wonder if the Luke-warm response to TLJ

$2 BILLION wasn't enough?

5 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

$2 BILLION wasn't enough?

>INb4 "muh childhood"

8 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

$2 BILLION wasn't enough?

No no, you see I didn't like it so nobody liked it!

Yeah, I'm just laughing very hard at the notion that Disney has money problems. I could totally see FFG/Asmodee having to weigh decisions very carefully, but Disney? They paid $4B for the franchise, and they're gonna use it.

2 hours ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

$2 BILLION wasn't enough?

Transformers: Dark of the Moon - 1.123 Billion

Transformers: Age of Extinction - 1.104 Billion

Also, just to be that guy TLJ - 1.332 Billion

Box offices sales are not synonymous with a good film, or how well fans of it receive it. TPM had a take of 1.027 Billion which when adjusted for inflation made more money than TLJ, and TPM was not very well received. Not going to turn this, or I hope we don't, into a TLJ hate/defense thread but I think we can all agree that TLJ was a divisive film.

13 minutes ago, Animewarsdude said:

Transformers: Dark of the Moon - 1.123 Billion

Transformers: Age of Extinction - 1.104 Billion

Also, just to be that guy TLJ - 1.332 Billion

Box offices sales are not synonymous with a good film, or how well fans of it receive it. TPM had a take of 1.027 Billion which when adjusted for inflation made more money than TLJ, and TPM was not very well received. Not going to turn this, or I hope we don't, into a TLJ hate/defense thread but I think we can all agree that TLJ was a divisive film.

You cannot turn this into any kind of thread. It is what it is.

Look I'm done defending TLJ. They made money on it. Disney will do whatever it takes to make money on it.

The original point was that FFG was somehow pulling back plastic because of fan reaction to the latest films. I'm calling BS on that statement. They are pushing Legion and X-wing 2.0 like their lives depend on it (probably do) and somehow Armada is jinxed because of some dumb hate over a movie? I'm saying that would be something that Disney as a business wouldn't do.

1 hour ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

You cannot turn this into any kind of thread. It is what it is.

Look I'm done defending TLJ. They made money on it. Disney will do whatever it takes to make money on it.

The original point was that FFG was somehow pulling back plastic because of fan reaction to the latest films. I'm calling BS on that statement. They are pushing Legion and X-wing 2.0 like their lives depend on it (probably do) and somehow Armada is jinxed because of some dumb hate over a movie? I'm saying that would be something that Disney as a business wouldn't do.

Oh, FFG won't stop a game that isn't even related to that let alone one that is due to the hate the film gets. If FFG finds that sales aren't going well for that content I'd imagine they'd likely just not focus tons more releases around it and keep general appeal for the product line. As for Armada I think it just is suffering from the same stuff that IA did with Legion, the game is similar in concept to X-Wing in that it is a space battle Star Wars mini game so they likely don't want to take away attention from their new product. I hope we will see something at Gencon for Armada but if not then I guess the next best guess would be sometime in September after X-Wing 2.0 drops or in October.

17 hours ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

$2 BILLION wasn't enough?

Thank you. I get sick of all the bomb comments concerning Solo. Disney screwed up releasing this 2 weeks after Avengers Infinity War and a week after Deadpool. They should have kept the December release for Star Wars. This film under performed many people's expectations for multiple reasons, none of which because it was not an entertaining film.

18 hours ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

$2 BILLION wasn't enough?

Casual film-going audiences and small children don’t spend money on high-priced tactical miniatures games, hardcore fans do.

There wasn’t a single Armada-scale ship in either film that was remotely iconic or interesting enough to justify a model.

And why even mention Legion?? Every single Legion release so far is based on the original trilogy. You really think it’s sales are based on excitement over the recent films?

1 minute ago, Bakura83 said:

Casual film-going audiences and small children don’t spend money on high-priced tactical miniatures games, hardcore fans do.

There wasn’t a single Armada-scale ship in either film that was remotely iconic or interesting enough to justify a model.

But aren't you leaping here? Armada hasn't even scratched the new trilogy or prequels at all.

(I'd also claim that TLJ's capital ships were pretty cool but I know you disagree)

48 minutes ago, Cusm said:

Thank you. I get sick of all the bomb comments concerning Solo. Disney screwed up releasing this 2 weeks after Avengers Infinity War and a week after Deadpool. They should have kept the December release for Star Wars. This film under performed many people's expectations for multiple reasons, none of which because it was not an entertaining film.

Yeah it is pretty crazy when making $300M is a "bomb"! I read that they spent $150M on promotion. OMG

3 minutes ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

But aren't you leaping here? Armada hasn't even scratched the new trilogy or prequels at all.

(I'd also claim that TLJ's capital ships were pretty cool but I know you disagree)

I hated TLJ and even I think there were plenty of cool ships that could be added from that movie.

Solo was facing an uphill battle from the start compared to other star wars movies. Timing was awful as you guys have mentioned, but the negative reaction to its announcement hadn't helped it's cause either.

I will admit I did not want a solo movie at all, I thought it was a lazy idea and would be terrible. ( how can you have these characters without the originals) I know a lot of people refused to go see it and are waiting for DVD/Netflix etc. Though I was wrong about it, when I saw it I was pleasantly surprised and thought it was pretty well done.

It also had to deal with the politically charged climate. Between individuals and Disney versus other individuals on social issues ( which I have no interest in talking about) this led to a number of star wars fans boycotting the movie or Disney in general. Right or wrong every body counts... it's a shame because solo was a pretty good movie that everyone deserves to enjoy.

31 minutes ago, BlueSquadronPilot said:

Solo was facing an uphill battle from the start compared to other star wars movies. Timing was awful as you guys have mentioned, but the negative reaction to its announcement hadn't helped it's cause either.

I will admit I did not want a solo movie at all, I thought it was a lazy idea and would be terrible. ( how can you have these characters without the originals) I know a lot of people refused to go see it and are waiting for DVD/Netflix etc. Though I was wrong about it, when I saw it I was pleasantly surprised and thought it was pretty well done.

It also had to deal with the politically charged climate. Between individuals and Disney versus other individuals on social issues ( which I have no interest in talking about) this led to a number of star wars fans boycotting the movie or Disney in general. Right or wrong every body counts... it's a shame because solo was a pretty good movie that everyone deserves to enjoy.

The boycott skews the numbers in a way that makes it hard to tell how many people actually saw it. I know a lot of people who participated in the boycott but still saw Solo by buying a ticket for Deadpool or some other movie.

1 hour ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

But aren't you leaping here? Armada hasn't even scratched the new trilogy or prequels at all.

(I'd also claim that TLJ's capital ships were pretty cool but I know you disagree)

Yeah I probably am. May still be right though. Maybe not. Still would happily buy some space station models...

(Cool is subjective - you can absolutely think they are cool. I really don’t remember much about them other than they looked like exaggerated ISD’s in black. The TF ships, love them or hate them, were iconic).

21 hours ago, ianediger said:

In regards to the XWing article, at least best girl Seyn gets a decent ability. Heck, all the TIEs have decent abilities.

TIEs and X-wings have always had pretty great abilities, but are just let down by their chassis (Heck, most wave 1 ships abilities were stupid good on a bad chassis)

1 hour ago, CaribbeanNinja said:

Yeah it is pretty crazy when making $300M is a "bomb"! I read that they spent $150M on promotion. OMG

I'm assuming you are talking about Solo, if in which case, yea that is giant bomb. First off, studios don't generally admit to the actual budget but you can guesstimate it. Assuming it had a budget similar to Rogue One then it had 200 Mil at the outset, and I'd imagine that at the very least a good half of that was used since the original directors filmed 90% of the film. Then, they fired them, and brought in Ron Howard to reshoot the entire film, so tack on an additional 100 Mil or so. Then they came back for reshoots only a couple months before release, meaning that ILM likely didn't have all the footage it needed for every shot needing CG until about March, which means likely lots of overtime for them and rushing to get stuff up to snuff for the final release which equals more $$$. Then add on your marketing budget which is generally the production budget X2. So, we effectively they likely pushed the budget up to a good 300 - 400 Mil before marketing. Disney and LFL lost money on the film.

Supposedly the reason they didn't release it later was due to Disney wanting to release the new Mary Poppins film for the December/Winter film period so that the two wouldn't compete. Had the film not been so rushed they likely could have kept the budget down more, could have tried to build up more public awareness of the film to get them in the seats, refined the film a bit more, and oh yes not having it compete with the juggernaut that was Avengers and popular Deadpool 2. Solo failed for a large number of reasons.

1 hour ago, Megatronrex said:

I hated TLJ and even I think there were plenty of cool ships that could be added from that movie.

The issue with it though is scale. The Resistance ships might fit, but the FO ones are far too big. Unless they pushed the FO's main destroyer into the large class then the only ships they could field would be some rather 'eh' looking stuff from the comics or stuff revealed in Resistance. I think they'd be better off keeping to the OT era for the time being or if they had to expand then to the PT era since it is mostly filled out even if it would likely only have enough content for a few waves.

12 minutes ago, Animewarsdude said:

The issue with it though is scale. The Resistance ships might fit, but the FO ones are far too big. Unless they pushed the FO's main destroyer into the large class then the only ships they could field would be some rather 'eh' looking stuff from the comics or stuff revealed in Resistance. I think they'd be better off keeping to the OT era for the time being or if they had to expand then to the PT era since it is mostly filled out even if it would likely only have enough content for a few waves.

Yeah there's no doubt that the FO ships from TLJ would throw the scale of the game all out of wack. I'd still play with them anyway.

Lol just realized it's been over a month since they've even acknowledged our existence

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2018/6/6/piece-by-piece/