What if it is a title to the TIE-FO that gives it a turret and crew slot?

This is not going to happen. No matter how many times you post saying it will/should be a TIE/fo title, it is not going to happen. It will be its own model, in its own expansion pack.

Nonsense.

It needs a new model for the obvious physical differences. Beyond that? Your guess is as good as mine.

I still doubt it will get a full spectrum turret slot. More likely it will be able to fire its missiles into the rear auxiliary arc. Imagine being able to overrun a target and zap him with prockets.

I am beginning to think it will get a crew slot. Though if it does I wouldn't be surprised to see its point cost in the Defender range.

And more nonsense.

Sorry to be the bearer of sound reasoning, but the precedent has already been set.

Why would they spend the millions on a new miniature mold that they clearly don't have to.

There was no new sculpt for the "significantly different" B-wing/E2, there won't be one for the SF.

In either case, that won't keep me from having fun:

You do know that every TFA model aside from the T-70 could have been accomplished via repaint thus far, but they actually made brand new models for each and every TFA ship yet, right?

...Right?

Your solution covers both ends no?

It does. But it still doesn't mean I agree with his statement. Since there are a lot of other ships that would be negatively impacted by it if it were applied to them. Hunters, Aggressors, Oppressors, etc.

Although I suppose Hunters have a cannon slot and Aggressors have a turret slot, so they don't have to be 2 attack if you don't want them to.

Rear Arc. but only for cannons. Like the Ghost's rear arc that is only for Ordnance.

I don't think it will have a cannon slot. The guns on the turret look rather tiny and not exactly customizable.

I'd say it will have a 2dice primary with a rear arc and a title that adds 1 die in the primary arc. It would make the most sense and fit in with how the armament works (small turret that can be combined with the main lasers in the front). Probably a missile slot as well, maybe with the option to shoot missiles out of the rear arc.

I don't think it will have a cannon slot. The guns on the turret look rather tiny and not exactly customizable.I'd say it will have a 2dice primary with a rear arc and a title that adds 1 die in the primary arc. It would make the most sense and fit in with how the armament works (small turret that can be combined with the main lasers in the front). Probably a missile slot as well, maybe with the option to shoot missiles out of the rear arc.

Those small tiny turrets are the more powerful guns.

Bear in mind smaller doesn't mean weaker it means it's better engineered and more efficient.

Take Hans blaster it's more powerful than a storm troopers E-11.

You're probably right, but I still can't see TIE Fighters flying around with HLCs.

Sorry to be the bearer of sound reasoning, but the precedent has already been set.

Why would they spend the millions on a new miniature mold that they clearly don't have to.

They just did - on a new T-70 sculpt and a new YT-1300 sculpt

Nope, same sculpt.

You're confusing the painting process with the molding process.

The Falcon antenna is attached afterwards, lol.

This is one of the ways to do it:

Other than Attack Dice 3 this is EXACTLY how I would do this ship. Oh and maybe remove the System Slot, but then maybe not.

I double checked the Cross section book, and the cannons on the FO and SF are the same: Sienar-Jaemus Fleet ystems L-s9.6 laser cannons. I thought the SF was upgraded to another type.

What if it is a title to the TIE-FO that gives it a turret and crew slot?

This is not going to happen. No matter how many times you post saying it will/should be a TIE/fo title, it is not going to happen. It will be its own model, in its own expansion pack.

Nonsense.

It needs a new model for the obvious physical differences. Beyond that? Your guess is as good as mine.

I still doubt it will get a full spectrum turret slot. More likely it will be able to fire its missiles into the rear auxiliary arc. Imagine being able to overrun a target and zap him with prockets.

I am beginning to think it will get a crew slot. Though if it does I wouldn't be surprised to see its point cost in the Defender range.

And more nonsense.

Sorry to be the bearer of sound reasoning, but the precedent has already been set.

Why would they spend the millions on a new miniature mold that they clearly don't have to.

There was no new sculpt for the "significantly different" B-wing/E2, there won't be one for the SF.

In either case, that won't keep me from having fun:

I have no idea why you think the BWing E2 is vastly different from the regular Bwing in your pictures, there doesnt look to be any difference in the ones you posted. Also the cockpit with a rear seat is the only difference in game....it should have had an extra Torp slot bringing it to 3 torps on the Bwing e2, since that was the primary difference in the books. But FFG didnt do that.

The TIE/SF is very different in the main part of the ship, hell even the micromachines toy is different from the micromachines toy FO. so if FFG doesnt make a model of the SF, they are dropping the ball big time.

A cockpit that is twice as long and twice as wide is no small modification;

FFG's title card image is wrong.

While appearing almost identical to its predecessor, the B-wing/E had a command cabin extended by 3 meters to add space for a gunnery station directly behind the pilot seat. The addition of a gunner drastically increased the kill statistics for this fighter by freeing the pilot to focus solely on flying the craft without dividing his attention between piloting and gunnery.

The B-wing/E was faster and more durable, but sacrificed maneuverability allowed by the standard B-wing. Increased shielding, speed, and its complement of weapons made this fighter a genuine threat to Imperial ships.

Admiral Gial Ackbar made use of a specially modified B-wing/E as his personal military shuttle. His craft, dubbed the B-wing/E2, was made with a wider command cabin to accommodate a single passenger seated next to the pilot seat.

Sorry to be the bearer of sound reasoning, but the precedent has already been set.

Why would they spend the millions on a new miniature mold that they clearly don't have to.

There was no new sculpt for the "significantly different" B-wing/E2, there won't be one for the SF.

There's significantly more difference between the TIE/sf and TIE/fo than between the B-wing and B-wing/E2. With the B-wing/E2 it's just a stretched cockpit, and that's it. The TIE/sf has prominent external fuel tanks where the struts attach to the solar panels, ion engines offset to the sides of the hull to make room for the gunner's seat, the gunner's rear viewport, and of course the turret.

There's also the fact that the B-wing/E2 is a fairly obscure EU/Legends design, while the TIE/sf is a prominent canon ship from the latest movie. Which of those is Disney going to care more about being correctly rendered in their licensed products?

With the B-wing/E2 it's just a stretched cockpit, and that's it.

First they stretched it (x2), B-wing/E

then they widened it (x2), B-wing/E2

so you read like you think 1=4.

It's a significant difference in the sculpt that they didn't bother with,

and I doubt they'll bother again with a ship so similar if they don't have to.

Disney didn't own LFL when they did the B-wing/E2,

so maybe no one at FFG cared then.

You can't say it's guaranteed because Disney owns LFL now,

that this time FFG will care either.

With the B-wing/E2 it's just a stretched cockpit, and that's it.

First they stretched it

then they widened it

With the B-wing/E2 it's just a stretched cockpit, and that's it.

Wrong.

First they stretched it (x2), B-wing/E

then they widened it (x2), B-wing/E2

so you read like you think 1=4.

It's a significant difference in the sculpt that they didn't bother with,

and I doubt they'll bother again with a ship so similar if they don't have to.

Disney didn't own LFL when they did the B-wing/E2,

so maybe no one at FFG cared then.

You can't say it's guaranteed because Disney owns LFL now,

that this time FFG will care either.

Do you believe that FFG will release the TIE/sf as a title for the TIE/fo, or are you just playing devils advocate?

With the B-wing/E2 it's just a stretched cockpit, and that's it.

Wrong.First they stretched it (x2), B-wing/Ethen they widened it (x2), B-wing/E2so you read like you think 1=4.It's a significant difference in the sculpt that they didn't bother with,and I doubt they'll bother again with a ship so similar if they don't have to.Disney didn't own LFL when they did the B-wing/E2,so maybe no one at FFG cared then.You can't say it's guaranteed because Disney owns LFL now,that this time FFG will care either.

Either way, the TIE/SF is going to get another sculpt, if Galoob Micromachines took the time to do so, then I assure you FFG will.

This is one of the ways to do it:

Other than Attack Dice 3 this is EXACTLY how I would do this ship. Oh and maybe remove the System Slot, but then maybe not.

I double checked the Cross section book, and the cannons on the FO and SF are the same: Sienar-Jaemus Fleet ystems L-s9.6 laser cannons. I thought the SF was upgraded to another type.

What if it is a title to the TIE-FO that gives it a turret and crew slot?

This is not going to happen. No matter how many times you post saying it will/should be a TIE/fo title, it is not going to happen. It will be its own model, in its own expansion pack.

Nonsense.

It needs a new model for the obvious physical differences. Beyond that? Your guess is as good as mine.

I still doubt it will get a full spectrum turret slot. More likely it will be able to fire its missiles into the rear auxiliary arc. Imagine being able to overrun a target and zap him with prockets.

I am beginning to think it will get a crew slot. Though if it does I wouldn't be surprised to see its point cost in the Defender range.

And more nonsense.

Sorry to be the bearer of sound reasoning, but the precedent has already been set.

Why would they spend the millions on a new miniature mold that they clearly don't have to.

There was no new sculpt for the "significantly different" B-wing/E2, there won't be one for the SF.

In either case, that won't keep me from having fun:

I have no idea why you think the BWing E2 is vastly different from the regular Bwing in your pictures, there doesnt look to be any difference in the ones you posted. Also the cockpit with a rear seat is the only difference in game....it should have had an extra Torp slot bringing it to 3 torps on the Bwing e2, since that was the primary difference in the books. But FFG didnt do that.

The TIE/SF is very different in the main part of the ship, hell even the micromachines toy is different from the micromachines toy FO. so if FFG doesnt make a model of the SF, they are dropping the ball big time.

A cockpit that is twice as long and twice as wide is no small modification;

FFG's title card image is wrong.

While appearing almost identical to its predecessor, the B-wing/E had a command cabin extended by 3 meters to add space for a gunnery station directly behind the pilot seat. The addition of a gunner drastically increased the kill statistics for this fighter by freeing the pilot to focus solely on flying the craft without dividing his attention between piloting and gunnery.

The B-wing/E was faster and more durable, but sacrificed maneuverability allowed by the standard B-wing. Increased shielding, speed, and its complement of weapons made this fighter a genuine threat to Imperial ships.

Admiral Gial Ackbar made use of a specially modified B-wing/E as his personal military shuttle. His craft, dubbed the B-wing/E2, was made with a wider command cabin to accommodate a single passenger seated next to the pilot seat.

The hilarious part is, is that the B-Wing E2's art follows its Rebel Assault depiction. Which makes way, way more sense anyway.

Naming that title card "B-wing/E2" was itself an error, since the E2 was Ackbar's personal shuttle with a completely redesigned cockpit area to carry passengers. Adding a single crew slot makes it just the B-wing/E.

And again, the TIE/sf was a prominent ship from The Force Awakens. Two of the main characters even flew one. Every licensed depiction of it to date, including stuff like Micro Machines that are far less detailed than X-Wing Miniatures, have used a separate model instead of just a repainted TIE/fo. It would be crazy if FFG didn't give it its own model. If they were going to be that lazy, they would've just repainted the TIE/ln model for the TIE/fo. And the TIE/sf has more differences from the TIE/fo than the TIE/fo does from the TIE/ln.

We do all realize that the TIE/sf will definitely have a new model (and expansion pack)...BUT it could very well have a title too?

My guess is that it will be available separately and in another expansion with Cap'n Phasma pilot boxed with Kylo's shuttle.

Sorry to be the bearer of sound reasoning, but the precedent has already been set.

Why would they spend the millions on a new miniature mold that they clearly don't have to.

They just did - on a new T-70 sculpt and a new YT-1300 sculpt

Nope, same sculpt.

You're confusing the painting process with the molding process.

The Falcon antenna is attached afterwards, lol.

FFG said themselves IN THE ARTICLE that they were new sculpts. The Falcon is more than just a new dish, it's been redone to add all the new details from the TFA Falcon. And the T-70 has had a new sculpt, with BB-8 instead of the R4 astromech.

Are you just that aggressively arrogant? You're so f*cking cocky, like you think everyone NEEDS TO KNOW just how right you are, and how wrong all the rest of us are. Jokes on you, you're the one who's wrong here. It's not even up for debate, your wrongness comes down all the way from FFG themselves.

Same deal with the B-Wing/E2 stuff. It's not enough that you need to be right; everyone else needs to be wrong. Once again, though, you're wrong anyways.

Even if the cockpit was changed at all between the B-Wing and the /E2, the thing is that ultimately it would be a tiny, undetectable difference, whereas, once again, the difference between a TIE/SF and a TIE/FO is massive and very obvious upon a first glance. The two arent even remotely comparable. It's almost like you've never looked at a TIE/SF and a TIE/FO next to each other, despite many pictures of just that having being posted in this thread already. I cannot wait for the TIE/SF announcement, because perhaps you'll realize how dumb you're acting right now.

They just did - on a new T-70 sculpt and a new YT-1300 sculpt

Nope, same sculpt.

You're confusing the painting process with the molding process.

The Falcon antenna is attached afterwards, lol.

Nope, new sculpt.

You're confusing your assumptions with the facts, lol.

First, check the news article (emphasis mine):

First of all, you might notice the ship's new, rectangular sensor array. While this is likely the first change you may notice in the difference between the sculpts, it is not the only one. Heroes of the Resistance introduces a new sculpt and paint scheme for the Falcon that faithfully represent all the changes that the ship underwent between Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens.

Second, grab your YT-1300 model and compare it with the highlighted parts of this image:

Gabe, let's simplify this. I'll make a bet with you, if FFG decides to make the TIE/sf a title with no new model, I will buy open and eat a TIE/fo and post the video here, I'll even buy a second one for you as an award.... However, should FFG release a new model for the TIE/sf, you will buy 2 of the new models, send me one, and film yourself eating the other one, posting the video here for all to see...

Gabe, let's simplify this. I'll make a bet with you, if FFG decides to make the TIE/sf a title with no new model, I will buy open and eat a TIE/fo and post the video here, I'll even buy a second one for you as an award.... However, should FFG release a new model for the TIE/sf, you will buy 2 of the new models, send me one, and film yourself eating the other one, posting the video here for all to see...

I want to watch this!

I don't. Why would you eat TIEs?

"Use the toggle on the left to switch between missiles, cannons, and mag pulse -- use the site on the right to aim, triggers to fire!"

- Poe

What is mag pulse?

"Use the toggle on the left to switch between missiles, cannons, and mag pulse -- use the site on the right to aim, triggers to fire!"

- Poe

What is mag pulse?

mag-netic?

There originally from the Tie fighter game, mag pulse missiles bypass shields and drain weapon energy. Sort of like an ion for weapons rather than propulsion.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Magnetic_pulse

Gabe, let's simplify this. I'll make a bet with you, if FFG decides to make the TIE/sf a title with no new model, I will buy open and eat a TIE/fo and post the video here, I'll even buy a second one for you as an award.... However, should FFG release a new model for the TIE/sf, you will buy 2 of the new models, send me one, and film yourself eating the other one, posting the video here for all to see...

I've been trying to get one of the TIE/sf deniers to make a wager on it for the past week or so. None of them have been willing to do so. I think they're just trolls at this point.