With wave 2 ships soon upon us, I'm racking my brain trying to think of original trilogy ships they've not yet put in Armada. The only ones I can think of:

- Lambda-class shuttle

- Rebel transport

- One variant of a Mon Cal cruiser (the one with 'wings', as seen in ROTJ)

Any other ships?

For the ships released/announced so far, it looks like they all were in the movies except:

- Victory-class star destroyer

- Imperial raider

- MC-30c frigate

Am I right?

I wonder if any 'old-canon' staples will make an appearance. Things like an Interdictor. Thoughts?

Maybe the BSG or a Base ship?

I think you have just about listed the last of the ships from the 3 movies. If they want to do more "canon", they are going to have to start doing episode stuff.

Well there are still a number of Legends capital ship classes canonized in the new novels they can use but most of those are known as mainly Imperial ships.

Of the ones I know of off the top of my head one was known as a rebel design in Legends while one was an Old Republic design However both of these are being used by the Empire in their canon appearances..

Four were designs mainly known to be used by the Empire in Legends though two were originally used by the Old Republic in Legends and one occasionally showed up in rebel hands in the PC games. But one of these, the Victory class Star Destroyer, is already in the game. And all of them were being used by the Empire in their first canon appearance as well.

Finally one was known as being used by Black Sun in both Legends and canon.

And Immoblizer 418 Interdictor cruisers are now current canon. In fact almost every Clone Wars and Galactic Civil War era Interdictor was made canon by Tarkin except the Interdictor Star Destroyers, and the Immoblizer also showed up in Heir to the Jedi.

For the ships released/announced so far, it looks like they all were in the movies except:

- Victory-class star destroyer

- Imperial raider

- MC-30c frigate

The Assault Frigate is also from the EU, and not from the movies. The original showed up in The Trawn Trilogy , while the version we have is from the Empire at War game. I hope they include more EU stuff, as I'd love to see the Interdictor, Mon Remonda, Dreadnoughts, as well as E-Wings and TIE Defenders for new Squadrons.

For the ships released/announced so far, it looks like they all were in the movies except:

- Victory-class star destroyer

- Imperial raider

- MC-30c frigate

The Assault Frigate is also from the EU, and not from the movies. The original showed up in The Trawn Trilogy , while the version we have is from the Empire at War game. I hope they include more EU stuff, as I'd love to see the Interdictor, Mon Remonda, Dreadnoughts, as well as E-Wings and TIE Defenders for new Squadrons.

Right- forgot about the assault frigate.

I'd love to see Thrawn Trilogy ships (dreadnaughts!). And maybe K-wings? Is it safe to assume anything we see in the X-wing game will have an Armada variant?

For the ships released/announced so far, it looks like they all were in the movies except:

- Victory-class star destroyer

- Imperial raider

- MC-30c frigate

The Assault Frigate is also from the EU, and not from the movies. The original showed up in The Trawn Trilogy , while the version we have is from the Empire at War game. I hope they include more EU stuff, as I'd love to see the Interdictor, Mon Remonda, Dreadnoughts, as well as E-Wings and TIE Defenders for new Squadrons.

I already mentioned that the Interdictor Cruiser is canon now rather then being an EU ship and the Carrack class Light Cruiser which also appeared outside the RPG for the first time in the Thrawn Trilogy, is also canon. That aside I would definitely love to see more EU ships in the game along with all the ships made canon by the new novels.

For the ships released/announced so far, it looks like they all were in the movies except:

- Victory-class star destroyer

- Imperial raider

- MC-30c frigate

The Assault Frigate is also from the EU, and not from the movies. The original showed up in The Trawn Trilogy , while the version we have is from the Empire at War game. I hope they include more EU stuff, as I'd love to see the Interdictor, Mon Remonda, Dreadnoughts, as well as E-Wings and TIE Defenders for new Squadrons.

I already mentioned that the Interdictor Cruiser is canon now rather then being an EU ship and the Carrack class Light Cruiser which also appeared outside the RPG for the first time in the Thrawn Trilogy, is also canon. That aside I would definitely love to see more EU ships in the game along with all the ships made canon by the new novels.

If they didn't appear in the movies, they're EU designs. The current/new EU/new canon will likely be ignored down the line just as the old EU/Legends line has been. Bound to happen when they're cranking out movies like they plan on, and with that many directors. The Clone Wars show was the only one that felt any inclination to use EU designs for their new ships (the fully plated Y-Wing and the Z-95 Headhunter come to mind).

Not really. Its not like any reasonable amount of movies and TV episodes would show every ship class and every event in a galaxy. The problem with the old EU was that writers had their own visions of key events and who was involved in them, like the 7 or 8 different versions of the rebels obtaining the first Death Star Plans. As long as the new canon doesn't make the mistake of allowing multiple authors to establish contrasting versions of key events there's no reason any future films would need to clash with any current material

Not really. Its not like any reasonable amount of movies and TV episodes would show every ship class and every event in a galaxy. The problem with the old EU was that writers had their own visions of key events and who was involved in them, like the 7 or 8 different versions of the rebels obtaining the first Death Star Plans. As long as the new canon doesn't make the mistake of allowing multiple authors to establish contrasting versions of key events there's no reason any future films would need to clash with any current material

That's about the only event that has that issue. (unless you want to count all the games' accounts of the Battle of Hoth, in which case there were about a division's worth of AT-ATs downed). Getting the first Death Star plans was shown in a couple of books, a few short stories, and a game (if I remember correctly). Not hard to believe that each got different information, and only one or two of them got the actual plans, which were then combined, and taken to Tatooine for the events of ANH.

Looking at X-wing's list of fighters, and subtracting what we already have in Armada, here are some possibilities for wave 3 or future fighter packs:

Not really. Its not like any reasonable amount of movies and TV episodes would show every ship class and every event in a galaxy. The problem with the old EU was that writers had their own visions of key events and who was involved in them, like the 7 or 8 different versions of the rebels obtaining the first Death Star Plans. As long as the new canon doesn't make the mistake of allowing multiple authors to establish contrasting versions of key events there's no reason any future films would need to clash with any current material

That's about the only event that has that issue. (unless you want to count all the games' accounts of the Battle of Hoth, in which case there were about a division's worth of AT-ATs downed). Getting the first Death Star plans was shown in a couple of books, a few short stories, and a game (if I remember correctly). Not hard to believe that each got different information, and only one or two of them got the actual plans, which were then combined, and taken to Tatooine for the events of ANH.

Actually I think there were at least three Death Star Plans grabbings in games. Dark Forces shows one, Battlefront II shows another and Lethal Alliance shows a third which I think was basically a different character hitting a different part of the base the plans were stolen from in Dark Forces. I think they were also stolen from a convoy raided in a comic as well.

And there were two different Ackbar rescues in different games. In X-Wing he was rescued from a disabled shuttle in Empire at War he was rescued during a commando raid on a space station which was looking for data on the Death Star.

It either be the ships from the new movies. Or older ship like the dreadnaught. The mc90 or the winged mc80. Maybe the carrack cruiser. And the dictor SD. Sure we see small and medium sized

Not really. Its not like any reasonable amount of movies and TV episodes would show every ship class and every event in a galaxy. The problem with the old EU was that writers had their own visions of key events and who was involved in them, like the 7 or 8 different versions of the rebels obtaining the first Death Star Plans. As long as the new canon doesn't make the mistake of allowing multiple authors to establish contrasting versions of key events there's no reason any future films would need to clash with any current material

That's about the only event that has that issue. (unless you want to count all the games' accounts of the Battle of Hoth, in which case there were about a division's worth of AT-ATs downed). Getting the first Death Star plans was shown in a couple of books, a few short stories, and a game (if I remember correctly). Not hard to believe that each got different information, and only one or two of them got the actual plans, which were then combined, and taken to Tatooine for the events of ANH.

Actually I think there were at least three Death Star Plans grabbings in games. Dark Forces shows one, Battlefront II shows another and Lethal Alliance shows a third which I think was basically a different character hitting a different part of the base the plans were stolen from in Dark Forces. I think they were also stolen from a convoy raided in a comic as well.

And there were two different Ackbar rescues in different games. In X-Wing he was rescued from a disabled shuttle in Empire at War he was rescued during a commando raid on a space station which was looking for data on the Death Star.

You're right, forgot about the version in Battlefront II. Then again, that game's campagin was very odd, and made it seem like all of the clones knew about Palp's plans the entire time. I've never counted it as canon. Same with EaW. By that point, Lucas Arts was just turning out stuff that made no effort to fit in with the established story.

EAW wasn't really that bad on the story front IMO. The only points where it really clashed with pre-established Legends lore were Han taking a couple of extra jobs for the rebellion before the Battle of Ylesia or possibly between Ylesia and Yavin, which could have theoretically happened especially since right after Ylesia was when his troubles with Jabba started so he was desperate for cash, Ackbar's rescue (In my head canon that mission happens actually but rather then the Ackbar rescued in EAW being future Admiral Ackbar he is the sibling, or one of the siblings we know he had in Legends but never learned any details on. It just happens that the Y-Wing rescue of Admiral Ackbar happened at about the same time.), the Tatooine battle being bigger, and the biggest one namely the Weyland mission Everything else in the story could have happened before ANH and just not been mentioned before.

FOC was wierder but still theoretically could have happened its just extremely odd that the Zhann Consortium was never mentioned in the prior EU.

My money is still on the Arquitens and the Pelta, both of which appear in Rebels AND Clone Wars.

But yes, FFG will be shooting themselves in the foot if they don't release an Interdictor - sooner rather than later.

Acclamators. I just love them.

My money is still on the Arquitens and the Pelta, both of which appear in Rebels AND Clone Wars.

But yes, FFG will be shooting themselves in the foot if they don't release an Interdictor - sooner rather than later.

3 x Agree. Arquitens look sick, so do Peltas and the Interdictor has some cool potential functionality.

The problem I see is many of an Interdictor's abilities would only work in specific objectives unless they use it to change the rules. And would extra turns or preventing the match from ending or whatever the come up with to adapt the gravwell projectors to the game really be worth the loss of firepower you would take trading a conventional warship for an Interdictor?

Hey, if I can come up with ways to make an Interdictor fun and playable while staying entirely within the current rules , I'm sure FFG can do it a million times better.

Here is my idea for wave 3

Large box set featuring:

Liberty MC80 winged cruiser /w Commander Kenobi Cost 35- After initial deployment, add 1 shield beyond the maximum to every hull to every ship you control.

Three E-Wing squadrons, Three advanced Y-Wing squadrons with squadron hero Princess Leia

Interdictor Star Destroyer w/ Commander Palpatine Cost 45- Add a Blue Accuracy die to your pool after you roll your attack dice

Three Tie Defenders, Three advanced tie bombers w/ New hero

Imperial Shuttle and Rebel escort frigiate

3x6 Endor themed game mat

Six endor themed objective cards

*36 page campaign manual featuring 15 story themed 1v1 battles culminating with the battle of endor

Take the roll of a newly promoted imperial or rebel captian with a branching scripted story that changes based on the outcome of each game

Unique Endor campaign rule set

Set of campaign only character cards, upgrades, promotion chart, and win trophy tokens

Green death star laser die with measuring tool

*50 page (Art of Armada) collectors book featuring Armada art from various artists

MSRP $250 (Gotta be realistic)

Why would Kenobi be commanding a Liberty type MC80? AFAIK he never set foot on one of them and in Legends at least most of them are commanded by Mon Calamari because they require Mon Calamari bridge crews to get the most out of them due to how the displays are set and the controls arranged.

And I would rather have at least 2 new capital ships per faction in each wave but the idea is interesting.

Why would Kenobi be commanding a Liberty type MC80? AFAIK he never set foot on one of them and in Legends at least most of them are commanded by Mon Calamari because they require Mon Calamari bridge crews to get the most out of them due to how the displays are set and the controls arranged.

And I would rather have at least 2 new capital ships per faction in each wave but the idea is interesting.

Yeah, I am not well versed in the EU, or I would know of another possible admiral for this. (Kenobi is kinda like a place holder for another rebel commander)

Yeah they could always go for Yamarus who was the admiral in command of the Liberty Task force in the period leading up to Endor. And little is known about him so he is basically a blank slate.

Or they could make Luke the commander since he used a Liberty type as his flagship during much of his time as a fleet commander.

I assume Wave 3 will feature ships from the new movie.

I don't think the new movie ships will come out until 8 or 9 comes out, a year or two from now. I wouldn't want to buy them, I wouldn't want to play in games that mix them, I'm playing the Galactic Civil War.

I wonder how invested they are in lots of new fighter squadrons, this is a capital ship game and squadrons are uninspiring so far. I wouldn't have any interest in buying new variations of what we've already got, maybe they plan some new carrier ships/upgrades that'll make squadron heavy lists more viable? Somehow I doubt we'll see X-Wing level variety of squadrons for Armada.

It would be neat to see some carrier style ships though, and I have a lot of faith that FFG can make pretty cool new ships (certainly in the looks department), so I hope they don't shy away from using their own creativity.

Plenty of carrier designs already in the lore. Besides the Escort carriers both sides can field, and the Venators , the Rebels could also have the Endurance / Nebula -Class Fleet Carrier/Star Destroyer. That would also fit the two types of ship per model that Armada is based on, as the two designs are extremely similar.