Sorastro's Painting

By Sorastro, in Imperial Assault Painting and Modification

Hi painters!

I'm away visiting relatives at the moment but wanted to offer my two cents on the hand shaking issue. This might just be me but I've discovered that my hands shake most in the morning and I'm pretty certain this is due to the coffee I like to consume at that time. There are some shots in my videos (including Ep.12) where this is evident because I've gone ahead and filmed anyway, but generally I film mostly in the afternoon/evening to avoid this. So if you also have a shake, it might be worth monitoring if it varies in intensity depending on how much coffee (or other stimulants!?) you may have had. Beer on the other hand.. I've no problem with that :)

Quick word done here. Wash, prime and painted in a few hours. Relatively happy with the result and it just needs a coat of varnish now.

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Quick word done here. Wash, prime and painted in a few hours. Relatively happy with the result and it just needs a coat of varnish now.

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This is great and you are great! You along with Sorastro have made me want to start painting (I even supported him through Patreon today too). I ordered the game and some paints today and they should be here Friday and I can't wait to get started. I hope you keep posting your progress.

I love the blue/red sides! Well done, Muz!

Finished my Nexu and even got the basecoats on Jyn finished.

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Mentioned it to Sorastro on Twitter, but the trickiest part of those guys were the bases...

The bases or the base coats? I'm surprised how easy the bases go. The plaint brush seems to guide itself without somehow covering your minis feet.

As for the base coats I think I recall their undersides being quite troublesome to squeeze the brush in there without leaving large gaps. Plus I've only now just started picking the minis up to prime from below as well. Before that I used to have large sections of unprimed plastic showing through.

In regards to my IG-88. While the red and blue washes were a little heavy and it conceals the grimy colour I had before. I found using a green wash from the Trandoshans (not Biel green but the other one, I can't check right now as I'm stuck in the lab) worked just as well as a yellow wash. Which I never realised I didn't own.

@Gaspump

I think you'll be surprised just how decent first time painting results look at tabletop distance. If I knew about washes I'd have tried this while I was younger!

Most of the time the bases are a breeze. Just the Nexu I had troubles with. Even now I'm spotting spots I missed after the 3rd coat.

I just realized I now own all of Citadels shades and glazes. I get a little OCD so I used citadels webpage to arrange the paint in the stands in a way that makes sense. Low and behold I have all of them. I bet doing the rebels is going to flesh out my layers a lot too since we're getting into lighter tones than all of the black and grey of the imperials

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@Gaspump

I think you'll be surprised just how decent first time painting results look at tabletop distance. If I knew about washes I'd have tried this while I was younger!

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Oh, believe me I hate the photos of my minis. They look so sloppy!

However if I took the photos at tabletop distance they wouldn't look right in this thread!

So to prepare for my shipment to arrive on Friday I went to a local store and picked up a little Warhammer guy, a primer spray and 2 little buckets of paint to test out my scrub skills. I think I did an ok job priming, I think I held the can to far away though because it looks like someone dusted the little guy with sugar. The main problem I had was my paint kept drying out on my little palette. I would paint a little then the edges would start to crust up so then I would add a little water but then I think the paint was too thin as it wasn't covering the figure at all. Is that something I'll just need to learn how to manage? Any tips for that?

From my little experience I'd say the secret to priming is to shake the can as long as possible. I aim for a couple of minutes and this should reduce frosting with varnish or uneven coats with primer.

I've not really had an issue with paint drying before but then I only use a little at a time. I tend to use one or two brushes of paint on my pallet which I mix with an equal amount of water. If you had to go for one extreme I'd suggest making your paints too thin rather than too thick. You can add layers and build up colour but you can't add in details clogged up with paint.

Most things will require at least a second coat of paint to get a solid colour.

So to prepare for my shipment to arrive on Friday I went to a local store and picked up a little Warhammer guy, a primer spray and 2 little buckets of paint to test out my scrub skills. I think I did an ok job priming, I think I held the can to far away though because it looks like someone dusted the little guy with sugar. The main problem I had was my paint kept drying out on my little palette. I would paint a little then the edges would start to crust up so then I would add a little water but then I think the paint was too thin as it wasn't covering the figure at all. Is that something I'll just need to learn how to manage? Any tips for that?

Actually, that sounds about right for paint. To get a complete cover it often takes a couple coats, but most of the time when you're painting you don't actually want that because you're layering. I'm not sure which paints you were using as they tend to have different pigment levels. Citadel Base colors, assuming you got citadel paints, have the most pigment, and are meant for basecoating. Even thinned it should only take a couple layers to get good coverage. Where as citadel layer paints have less pigment so if you really want complete coverage with those it's going to take a few layers of thinned paint.

You should definitely continue to thin the paint. Too thin is better than too thick in my book. It's easy to add more paint, it's much harder to get it off or cover it up if it's too thick. It also keeps the paint from drying too fast on your brush so you can get more done between rinsing. You should rinse the paint out pretty regularly too keep it from drying out on you, which can be a paint to get off your brushes without messing up your brush tips.

It's going to take a little bit to figure out what works best for you, but if you notice in his videos, Sorastro thin's his paints pretty well. Even when he doesn't specifically mention it he's always thinning his paints unless he's using a wash or drybrush from what I can tell.

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@ PerniciousDucks

That's a good point about the type of paint used. Base paints are definitely a lot more opaque than layer paints.

I am using Citadel paints, Mephiston Red and Cermite (I think) White. I'll definitely work on figuring out the right consistency. Thanks for the tips on the primer, I'm using Rustoleum 2X flat black primer because wow, the Games Workshop primer was like 18.00 for one can.

The main problem I had was my paint kept drying out on my little palette. I would paint a little then the edges would start to crust up so then I would add a little water but then I think the paint was too thin as it wasn't covering the figure at all. Is that something I'll just need to learn how to manage? Any tips for that?

You might be interested in either some drying retarder , OR look into making your own wet palette . It's pretty easy, just a container, some absorbing stuff like a sponge, kitchen wipes, or paper like in the video, and parchment paper (aka baking paper) on top. Not waxed paper because it needs to let moisture through. It's not everyone's cup of tea, but I like use a wet palette almost exclusively.

Sorastro, have you tried a wet palette btw?

That wet palette looks awesome. I'll be making one of those tomorrow!

Note to non-patrons: IG-88 has been showing himself in public for some hours now. Thought I'd mention it, even though I know you guys are all subscribed to his channel... ;)

I love how watching your videos are both learning and inspirational for the creativity and joy you put into painting. Thank you.

Not super thrilled with how this came out. Mostly because I remembered how terrible I was at human faces (imperial officer flashbacks) the rest mostly looks good.

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dat ass!

Thanks for the tips on the primer, I'm using Rustoleum 2X flat black primer because wow, the Games Workshop primer was like 18.00 for one can.

Speaking of primers and prices, is anyone else finding cheaper alternatives that still work well?

Thanks for the tips on the primer, I'm using Rustoleum 2X flat black primer because wow, the Games Workshop primer was like 18.00 for one can.

Speaking of primers and prices, is anyone else finding cheaper alternatives that still work well?

Army Painter color primers work well for black and gray and are cheaper than GW ones but the white one produced very gritty texture for me. The first can was fine but the second clogged up. I got new nozzles by mail from Army Painter but they didn't help. They were immediately clogged. The black and gray primers work like a charm though.

dat ass!

When I saw how the wash settled on her bum I laughed so hard that I figured I should just highlight it with layers.

Finished Gaarkhan this week. Didn't turn out very well. I wanted to try a lighter Gaarkhan because of the incoming Tatooine expansion (so many suns on that planet) but I fear I went too light. My friend commented that he looks like he's just gotten out of the shower.

So here you go: Gaarkhan, fresh out of a shower, on Tatooine:

Gaarkhan - Front

Gaarkhan - Back

And the ax came out too dark compared to the rest of the figure. I think I might have to highlight that some more.

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I don't think he looks too bad, Elrath. He's just a blond Wookiee. And you're never going to get *great* texture on the fur, because there's only so much texture in the model.