OT: There's something egregiously wrong with SW Rebels.

By Conandoodle, in X-Wing

Keep TFU in the bin of wretched fanfiction where it belongs. I'm sorry, it is such a terrible story about the founding of the Rebellion.

The Wookiees look wrong.

EOL

Edited by dojimaster

Keep TFU in the bin of wretched fanfiction where it belongs. I'm sorry, it is such a terrible story about the founding of the Rebellion.

Only if you care about that kind of thing. As a stand alone game I thought it was great.

Edited by WonderWAAAGH

I just hope Kanan turns out to be Rom Kota from The Force Unleashed. They seem so similar.

Thats an excellent observation. While i don't think they'll turn out to be the same person, i wonder i they utilized parts of his appearance on purpose. Visually they're very similar.

I always liked how Kota seemed more grounded in reality than the rest of the Jedi.

Edited by Bipolar Potter

Good morning fine people,

I have watched a few episodes of SW: Rebels. I'd like to talk about the ships in it. I don't want to comment on the other issues (stormtroopers being COMPLETELY useless, etc.) .. just the ships. The reason being, we are all here because we play X-Wing. A great game which primarily involves SW ships.

In one of the earlier episodes the big grey dude rescues Ezra in a Tie Fighter. In this episode I saw some things which made me think the director simply doesn't give a hoot about maintaining any form of cohesion between OT Ties and Rebels' Ties when it comes to Tie Fighters.

I'll give 3 examples, from that one episode alone:

1. A Tie Fighter can fly sideways.

2. It can be controlled upside down, hatch open with a non human hanging from the flight stick.

3. There is room enough in the cockpit for 2 people (1 exceptionally large) to have a rumble.

I understand this show is for kids (not big kids in their mid 30's) but I cringed at these scenes.

If Rebels ever made it to the tabletop .. Tie Fighters in our great game would gain a new maneuver on their dial and a crew member?

Rant over ... would love to hear your thoughts (even if they are "It's a show for kids you grumpy old man!")

You might be a Purist, and I might be EU junky, but for once, we both agree! I cringed at every scene with that cockpit. It is to large, can't fly sideways, doesn't have life support so they can't fly above breathable atmosphere area, etc. The episode itself is okayish, but those scenes make me cringe!

I just hope Kanan turns out to be Rom Kota from The Force Unleashed. They seem so similar.

Yeah... if you read the book A New Dawn, you'll know a bit more about Kanan Jarrus.

I didnt like the whole TIE thing to say the least but what got me was the prisoner transport that was such a blatant toy promo .Why place prisoners in slots on the outside with swinging panels it was ridiculous

I just hope Kanan turns out to be Rom Kota from The Force Unleashed. They seem so similar.

The hell? Not at all. Unless you mean their hair, which is the only similarity they have at all. No, Kanan Jarrus is Kanan Jarrus, a not-so-jedi-master prior Knight who lost his master, totes a blaster and is basically the new Kyle Katarn in a lot of ways.

Rahm Kota was a Jedi Master who led his own private force of Rebel soldiers, in fact I think they previously had affiliation with The Republic. Men that were very, very loyal to him. Extremely different characters.

As a caveat we do not know who Kanan's master was. EDIT: Yes we do. I suffered the ID:10-T error. My bad.

I didnt like the whole TIE thing to say the least but what got me was the prisoner transport that was such a blatant toy promo .Why place prisoners in slots on the outside with swinging panels it was ridiculous

Uh, actually?

imperialtrooptransport-w-box.jpg?w=520&h

You're not entirely wrong, but you are off by about thirty years.

Edited by Captain Lackwit

...Why place prisoners in slots on the outside...

Extra armor.

Good morning fine people,

I have watched a few episodes of SW: Rebels. I'd like to talk about the ships in it. I don't want to comment on the other issues (stormtroopers being COMPLETELY useless, etc.) .. just the ships. The reason being, we are all here because we play X-Wing. A great game which primarily involves SW ships.

In one of the earlier episodes the big grey dude rescues Ezra in a Tie Fighter. In this episode I saw some things which made me think the director simply doesn't give a hoot about maintaining any form of cohesion between OT Ties and Rebels' Ties when it comes to Tie Fighters.

I'll give 3 examples, from that one episode alone:

1. A Tie Fighter can fly sideways.

2. It can be controlled upside down, hatch open with a non human hanging from the flight stick.

3. There is room enough in the cockpit for 2 people (1 exceptionally large) to have a rumble.

I understand this show is for kids (not big kids in their mid 30's) but I cringed at these scenes.

If Rebels ever made it to the tabletop .. Tie Fighters in our great game would gain a new maneuver on their dial and a crew member?

Rant over ... would love to hear your thoughts (even if they are "It's a show for kids you grumpy old man!")

You might be a Purist, and I might be EU junky, but for once, we both agree! I cringed at every scene with that cockpit. It is to large, can't fly sideways, doesn't have life support so they can't fly above breathable atmosphere area, etc. The episode itself is okayish, but those scenes make me cringe!

I have no basis to argue flying sideways other than it's a spaceship and almost all spaceships have the ability to execute lateral burns. However, to nit pick a nit pick - when did they fly above breathable atmosphere in that episode? Looked to me like they were only a 100 ft or so off the ground. Also - perhaps on Lothal there is breathable oxygen 5 miles up (shrug)

I just hope Kanan turns out to be Rom Kota from The Force Unleashed. They seem so similar.

The hell? Not at all. Unless you mean their hair, which is the only similarity they have at all. No, Kanan Jarrus is Kanan Jarrus, a not-so-jedi-master prior Knight who lost his master, totes a blaster and is basically the new Kyle Katarn in a lot of ways.

Rahm Kota was a Jedi Master who led his own private force of Rebel soldiers, in fact I think they previously had affiliation with The Republic. Men that were very, very loyal to him. Extremely different characters.

To me they look very similar, and act similar as well. But then again I don't go and study every pixel of their face with incredible detail. Are you one of those people who insists that Boba Fett and Jango Fett look completely different?

Yeah, Boba is green, Jango is blue ;)

It's a show for kids you grumpy old man!

:P

I mean, sure, you're right about all that, but... how is it really any different from the shows that all of us grew up with?

It could be worse

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I didnt like the whole TIE thing to say the least but what got me was the prisoner transport that was such a blatant toy promo .Why place prisoners in slots on the outside with swinging panels it was ridiculous

Uh, actually?

imperialtrooptransport-w-box.jpg?w=520&h

You're not entirely wrong, but you are off by about thirty years.

Mother of god.

I just hope Kanan turns out to be Rom Kota from The Force Unleashed. They seem so similar.

The hell? Not at all. Unless you mean their hair, which is the only similarity they have at all. No, Kanan Jarrus is Kanan Jarrus, a not-so-jedi-master prior Knight who lost his master, totes a blaster and is basically the new Kyle Katarn in a lot of ways.

Rahm Kota was a Jedi Master who led his own private force of Rebel soldiers, in fact I think they previously had affiliation with The Republic. Men that were very, very loyal to him. Extremely different characters.

To me they look very similar, and act similar as well. But then again I don't go and study every pixel of their face with incredible detail. Are you one of those people who insists that Boba Fett and Jango Fett look completely different?

...But they do! Jango has a much more crisp, maintained outfit with less obvious tools. His gear has more plates, it's polished, and isn't anywhere near as utilitarian as Boba's. Boba's is much less about how it looks, and more about how it works. While it could do with a little more armor, he does know where most of his targets are going to shoot and hit, so he armors accordingly. Their outfits are Completely different.

Star%20Wars%20Jango%20Fett%20Attack%20ofBobaFett.jpg

Look at these two. Everything about how they dress is absolutely different. Jango is flashy, impressive. Not only does he keep himself flashy and color coordinated, but he, judging by his appearance, uses his reputation more than his tools to do his job. Moreso, it likely impressed many would be employers. Jango fett was indeed a man making his way in the universe, and he was very good at playing off the minds of people. But, he has many tools. Saberdarts, cords, a jetpack, rockets, I think even wrist rockets, and two flashy, powerful pistols. Pistols that only have 20 shots each, or was it 15? He's so confident, so sure in his ability and his reputation, that he won't need to reload. He believes his own hype, and you know? He was right about his hype. Only when his jetpack suffered a critical failure, was he killed.

Boba on the other hand dresses far more rugged, tools mounted in his knee guards, the pockets in his shins, arms. Boba goes for less flashy, more utterly terrifying. He wears a ragged cape, wookiee scalps that he got himself, and armor only where he needs it. He doesn't speak often, but when he does, he does it with authority. He even all but told The Dark Lord of The SITH himself, to back off. That he needed full payment. And Darth Vader backed down and let him take Han Solo, a hero of The Rebellion... Alive. Boba Fett carries weapons, weapons, weapons. He isn't the same hunter his father is. Boba Fett is more akin to a Yautja, where Jango is more akin to someone who does wetwork. Boba looks like a grizzled thug but is anything but. Jango looks like a professional hitman, and is exactly that.

So yes.

Yes, Crabbok.

I will insist that Boba Fett and Jango Fett look completely different.

Because they are. Their costumes and attitudes, the contracts they accept, who they target, who they work for, what they use, tells me everything I need to know about them. I pride myself as a fledgling writer and artist, who does all he can to absorb information about how a character's appearance must reflect also what he does. I am the kind of man who seeks perfection in his characters, but knows that such is impossible, but that doesn't stop me from making them look and feel exactly how they should. But the only way to do that... Is to deconstruct similar characters like Boba Fett and Jango Fett. Because while to the untrained and non discerning eye, they look no different, they are amazingly different.

*Exhale*

Kanan is an inexperienced Knight, Kota is an experienced Master. Kota could handle The Inquisitor easily. After all, why do you think Lord Vader sent his star pupil, rather than a run of the mill inquisitor?

He knew what he was dealing with.

These characters are far more intricate than you give them credit for.

It is perhaps worthy of note that Jango was "extremely well compensated" by the Kaminoans for being the Clone Army template. I would imagine his stuff looked nicer because he had the money to simply throw out stuff when it became worn. If you look at real-world professionals, their gear is NEVER worn.

Also, I am pretty sure Crabbock meant the actors who played them not their gear.

And on an entirely unrelated note, you'd think the family would have given up on using jetpacks by now...

It is perhaps worthy of note that Jango was "extremely well compensated" by the Kaminoans for being the Clone Army template. I would imagine his stuff looked nicer because he had the money to simply throw out stuff when it became worn. If you look at real-world professionals, their gear is NEVER worn.

Also, I am pretty sure Crabbock meant the actors who played them not their gear.

That too. Jango got paid fat credits for what he did.

I mean, after all. His targets were senators.

And on an entirely unrelated note, you'd think the family would have given up on using jetpacks by now...

Hey, I mean, they've worked every other time, right?

And on an entirely unrelated note, you'd think the family would have given up on using jetpacks by now...

No one in that family is using a jet pack now. There were only two of them, after all.

Edited by TopHatGorilla

Oops. Well i was never a toy person. More of a model builder *L*

um the flight mechanics of the Starwars movies were almost as bad... The ONLY space show that came close to getting them right was BSG.

Babylon 5 was pretty good with human ship physics. Aliens had magic alien tech, but the humans were pretty good. Even used spin for gravity

Pretty sure BSG kicks all their asses in terms of space stuff.

does that mean i cant make pew pew sounds anymore?

I just hope Kanan turns out to be Rom Kota from The Force Unleashed. They seem so similar.

The hell? Not at all. Unless you mean their hair, which is the only similarity they have at all. No, Kanan Jarrus is Kanan Jarrus, a not-so-jedi-master prior Knight who lost his master, totes a blaster and is basically the new Kyle Katarn in a lot of ways.

Rahm Kota was a Jedi Master who led his own private force of Rebel soldiers, in fact I think they previously had affiliation with The Republic. Men that were very, very loyal to him. Extremely different characters.

To me they look very similar, and act similar as well. But then again I don't go and study every pixel of their face with incredible detail. Are you one of those people who insists that Boba Fett and Jango Fett look completely different?
...But they do! Jango has a much more crisp, maintained outfit with less obvious tools. His gear has more plates, it's polished, and isn't anywhere near as utilitarian as Boba's. Boba's is much less about how it looks, and more about how it works. While it could do with a little more armor, he does know where most of his targets are going to shoot and hit, so he armors accordingly. Their outfits are Completely different.

Star%20Wars%20Jango%20Fett%20Attack%20ofBobaFett.jpg

Look at these two. Everything about how they dress is absolutely different. Jango is flashy, impressive. Not only does he keep himself flashy and color coordinated, but he, judging by his appearance, uses his reputation more than his tools to do his job. Moreso, it likely impressed many would be employers. Jango fett was indeed a man making his way in the universe, and he was very good at playing off the minds of people. But, he has many tools. Saberdarts, cords, a jetpack, rockets, I think even wrist rockets, and two flashy, powerful pistols. Pistols that only have 20 shots each, or was it 15? He's so confident, so sure in his ability and his reputation, that he won't need to reload. He believes his own hype, and you know? He was right about his hype. Only when his jetpack suffered a critical failure, was he killed.

Boba on the other hand dresses far more rugged, tools mounted in his knee guards, the pockets in his shins, arms. Boba goes for less flashy, more utterly terrifying. He wears a ragged cape, wookiee scalps that he got himself, and armor only where he needs it. He doesn't speak often, but when he does, he does it with authority. He even all but told The Dark Lord of The SITH himself, to back off. That he needed full payment. And Darth Vader backed down and let him take Han Solo, a hero of The Rebellion... Alive. Boba Fett carries weapons, weapons, weapons. He isn't the same hunter his father is. Boba Fett is more akin to a Yautja, where Jango is more akin to someone who does wetwork. Boba looks like a grizzled thug but is anything but. Jango looks like a professional hitman, and is exactly that.

So yes.

Yes, Crabbok.

I will insist that Boba Fett and Jango Fett look completely different.

Because they are. Their costumes and attitudes, the contracts they accept, who they target, who they work for, what they use, tells me everything I need to know about them. I pride myself as a fledgling writer and artist, who does all he can to absorb information about how a character's appearance must reflect also what he does. I am the kind of man who seeks perfection in his characters, but knows that such is impossible, but that doesn't stop me from making them look and feel exactly how they should. But the only way to do that... Is to deconstruct similar characters like Boba Fett and Jango Fett. Because while to the untrained and non discerning eye, they look no different, they are amazingly different.

*Exhale*

Kanan is an inexperienced Knight, Kota is an experienced Master. Kota could handle The Inquisitor easily. After all, why do you think Lord Vader sent his star pupil, rather than a run of the mill inquisitor?

He knew what he was dealing with.

These characters are far more intricate than you give them credit for.

Not to mention Boba goes for a more high caliber more firepower = better approach, where's Jango is more about precision and agility. (look at the armor, Jango's chest plate is 3 plates, and Boba is wearing a whole stiff cuirass)

um the flight mechanics of the Starwars movies were almost as bad... The ONLY space show that came close to getting them right was BSG.

Ummm, Babylon 5 is on the phone and would like to have a word with you about this.