A new take on Imperial Epics why there wont be a ISD shaped ship

By Lilikin, in X-Wing

I think I'd kill a kitten for an Acclamator-II class Star Frigate, or something that looks like a mini Acclamator.

No kittens, but I have this ewok and the keys to an AT-ST....

Make it an ATAT and i'm sold.

<hums a version of the imperial march using only the word "dong" >

Okay, but you have to fill the tank. It takes diesel.

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I shall call it - the kittenator!

Just been geeking out yet again on wookepedia after looking at another imperial epic thread (come on FFG) and had an epiphany.I don't think there will be a ISD shaped (dagger/shark whatever you call it) imperial epic because of Imperial design doctrine on those types of ships.The idea behind the shape is to maximise forward fire power and that means slow moving engagements at range or a fleeing target.for obvious reasons. if they are too close it would be very easy to arc dodge them.In a 6x3 epic game with a ship the size of the CR90 you would basically have one or two jousting shots before you spend the rest of the game turning around for maybe a third shot and unless the other player was stupid or someone with the same ship sitting and shooting back stationary (boring) it will pay for the CR90 pilots to get onto your side so it isn't facing both sets of gunsThey could of course release a dagger shaped ship without that design philosophy just to 'look imperial' but that would be lame imo(I am frequently wrong)

While its true that design is made to have a lot of firepower facing forward, the ISD2 has most its most powerful weapons faceing starboard and port. They are also grosly longer ranged than the other weapons used on SD. Although SD lik the Conquer does have its biggest and longest ranged weapon facing bow.

I want an imperial epic, and it needs to look imperial. then, I'll take a gozanti, but I want, (and I believe we will get) an imperial epic triangle of some variety. I would rather they make something up that fits the bill, than give us some of the crap out there (like the afore mentioned space dong)

Being rather they look like space dongs aside (and they totally do) the Lancer and Carrack are two seriously boring, lazy designs. Especially when painted in Imperial grey. I wouldnt be excited to buy/own/display that big pile of grey boredom.

But the Lancer is an iconic, very well known Imperial design.

What,s up with all this Gozanti? It is mot even 50m long. Basically same size as that transport from Rebels. Hardly an epic worthy ship.

It's longer. There's a liiiittle bit of size discrepancy in Rebels, BUT you also have to consider how ENORMOUS The Ghost is.

What,s up with all this Gozanti? It is mot even 50m long. Basically same size as that transport from Rebels. Hardly an epic worthy ship.

Wrong. The imperial refit gozanti is 63.8m long.

Source: the Star Wars Rebels Visual Guide.

If done at the same scale as the fighters the gozanti will be fine, albeit be a larger scale than the GR-75.

What,s up with all this Gozanti? It is mot even 50m long. Basically same size as that transport from Rebels. Hardly an epic worthy ship.

Wrong. The imperial refit gozanti is 63.8m long.

Source: the Star Wars Rebels Visual Guide.

If done at the same scale as the fighters the gozanti will be fine, albeit be a larger scale than the GR-75.

You are correct. Wookieepedia has a length that doesn't sit will with the established imagery. But there has to be a nicer way to say that than with the blunt 'wrong'.

Edited by Mikael Hasselstein

Yeah well.All that Rebels crap I don't care about. To bad it's now canon.

Yeah well.All that Rebels crap I don't care about. To bad it's now canon.

It is indeed canon.

But, most of us have to put up with some crap to which we don't have a connection. I'm still not sold on the Phantom or the Defender, but I've decided to stop griping about it.

But the Lancer is an iconic, very well known Imperial design.

I beg to differ. If you'd never played the old video games, you wouldn't know they exist, and they shouldn't, because they're awful designs that never would've cut it in the ILM art department.

But the Lancer is an iconic, very well known Imperial design.

I beg to differ. If you'd never played the old video games, you wouldn't know they exist, and they shouldn't, because they're awful designs that never would've cut it in the ILM art department.

What? It barely appeared in many games. If anything most of its appearances were on paper.

But the Lancer is an iconic, very well known Imperial design.

I beg to differ. If you'd never played the old video games, you wouldn't know they exist, and they shouldn't, because they're awful designs that never would've cut it in the ILM art department.

What old video games? I know the Lancer from the roleplaying game and the X-Wing books.

Yeah I was about to say. Honestly the only game I can think of it appearing in is Star Wars Galaxies.

http://swg.wikia.com/wiki/Imperial_Lancer-class_Frigate

And that's really it. It wasn't in EaW- that's where the Tartan (oddly) came from.

The issue is this is basically lore vs game

Imperials are always supposed to be bigger in the rebellion period. Some of the ISD are supposed to subdue massive regions of space on their own. In IV V & VI there is never a 1:1 fight it was alway massive imperials vs tiny rebels and the force. This makes for a great David vs Goliath story but makes poor computer games, can you imagine a ISD vs Tantive battle ala EPIV. Especially games like SWG where they are trying to make it an even choice to so all of a sudden they need imperial equivalents for the smaller vessels so on Galaxies the Inperials can have a Millenium Falcon. (decimator) and tantive gets things like Lancers. The problem is so often these ships were poorly designed in the eye candy sense especially if they were designed before graphics got to the level they are now.

That may not sooth the hardcore EU fans but remember Lancer isn't Canon. Neither is the decimator

I wish we get a hint of a spoiler to end discussions like this.