Y-Wings have K-turns, let's not forget.

And if you put an Unhinged Astromech on a Scum Y-Wing, its dial becomes better than an X-Wing's.

I don't see how BTL-A4 is bad because "Y-Wings can't maneuver, hurr hurr." The only reason the FFG article is worried about it is because it put BTL-A4 on Drea, whose ability stresses her, which *would* hamper your maneuverability (as it would hamper most ships').

So put the Unhinged Astro, the title and your turret of choice on a PS2 or PS4 Scum Y-Wing and have at it. Might be pretty good.

And if you put an Unhinged Astromech on a Scum Y-Wing, its dial becomes better than an X-Wing's.

I don't see how BTL-A4 is bad because "Y-Wings can't maneuver, hurr hurr." The only reason the FFG article is worried about it is because it put BTL-A4 on Drea, whose ability stresses her, which *would* hamper your maneuverability (as it would hamper most ships').

The Unhinged certainly helps a lot, but I think it's debatable whether it's better than an X-wing. There are going to be many cases where the short bank will be far better than a high-speed move. Unhinged is a big boost with a turret, because it opens up some long-distance, unpredictable moves. If you've got to keep a target in front of you, it's not so much.

And honestly, in the current meta, X-wings can't really maneuver all that well either. Compared to Phantoms and ubiquitous boosting (and soon B/BR'ing) large turret ships, they're going to have some issues.

Anyone else notice that Kaato Leachos was the name of the target in the Edge of the Empire free RPG Day adventure Under a Black Sun? He even flew a Z-95 Headhunter in that adventure. I love this cross-pollination going on!

Anyone else notice that Kaato Leachos was the name of the target in the Edge of the Empire free RPG Day adventure Under a Black Sun? He even flew a Z-95 Headhunter in that adventure. I love this cross-pollination going on!

You're right, " . . heavily modified Z-95-AF4 Headhunter, Blade’s Edge."

The ship even has his colours, too.

"By repurposing some of your existing starships, the Most Wanted Expansion Pack kick starts your Scum faction with enough firepower that it can immediately take the fight to Rebel and Imperial forces."

I know that the pack comes with stuff for the firespray even though it doesn't come with the ship. But this seems to me that you can repurpose Z-95's and Y-Wings as well. I don't see how we can do this if we are not allowed to reuse our Rebel Dials.

It means using the same ship again, however, Scum does come with a second Y-wing dial.

I think they've successfully kept the BTL-A4 and BTL-S3 both as desirable options. The S3 gets a turret attack, and the A4, while getting to shoot twice, has to pay turret prices for a non-turret.

I think it's intetesting that scum y-wings don't get illicit upgrade spots

These are all great! I just got more excited for Scum! So we're left with three unknown upgrades in Most Wanted, a title, possibly a crew card and another card...

Im jealous of the Agromech. I would love to get the Blaster Turret to work well for the Rebels, but alas, it seems the Scum are more efficient at it than the Alliance.

BTL makes an EU on your Ys more desirable.

I think Kyle crew is still the better option for the Blaster turret.

Horton + Blaster Turret alongside either Garvin w/ VI or Kyle or maybe even both, nah that'd be too much.

Still I'm a little mad about the EPTs... Really FFG???

What excuse do you have now for not giving Horton and Dutch EPTs

My biggest interest in the scum faction is Y-wing pilots with EPTs but it just feels wrong that Horton doesn't get one.

The only way to give Hortan an ept would be to include a new Horton card, identical except for the improvement of an ept slot. That would piss people off who don't want to buy the scum box to get a pilot they already have.

I think it's intetesting that scum y-wings don't get illicit upgrade spots

Probably because they get the Scum-exclusive salvaged astromech slot.

The only way to give Hortan an ept would be to include a new Horton card, identical except for the improvement of an ept slot. That would piss people off who don't want to buy the scum box to get a pilot they already have.

FFG really should just issue an errata giving Horton an EPT.

I think it's intetesting that scum y-wings don't get illicit upgrade spots

Yea, they mentioned it on the Illicit Dealings article.

"Of the seven different starships introduced to the Scum faction – or reengineered to suit its fleets – all but the Y-wing and M3-A “Scyk” interceptor gain access to the illicit upgrade, though the StarViper-class attack platform only gains access to the upgrade type through the use of the unique Virago Title card."

I think it will make those Title cards that much more special.

The only way to give Hortan an ept would be to include a new Horton card, identical except for the improvement of an ept slot. That would piss people off who don't want to buy the scum box to get a pilot they already have.

They could also make a new unique title or something that would work on other high PS skill pilots that don't have one... like I dunno, Kagi.

Also any card they made wouldn't need to be and in fact shouldn't be in this pack.

Im jealous of the Agromech. I would love to get the Blaster Turret to work well for the Rebels, but alas, it seems the Scum are more efficient at it than the Alliance.

BTL makes an EU on your Ys more desirable.

I think Kyle crew is still the better option for the Blaster turret.

Horton + Blaster Turret alongside either Garvin w/ VI or Kyle or maybe even both, nah that'd be too much.

Still I'm a little mad about the EPTs... Really FFG???

What excuse do you have now for not giving Horton and Dutch EPTs

My biggest interest in the scum faction is Y-wing pilots with EPTs but it just feels wrong that Horton doesn't get one.

At least imperials are in a similar boat with the Lambda shuttles. I think that if FFG could, they would go back and give Horton and probably Dutch an EPT slot. Remember the y-wing came out very early in the development of the game.

The only way to give Hortan an ept would be to include a new Horton card, identical except for the improvement of an ept slot. That would piss people off who don't want to buy the scum box to get a pilot they already have.

They could also make a new unique title or something that would work on other high PS skill pilots that don't have one... like I dunno, Kagi.

Also any card they made wouldn't need to be and in fact shouldn't be in this pack.

Also, a title would stop Hortan from using the new y title an ept and an astromech.

The only way to give Hortan an ept would be to include a new Horton card, identical except for the improvement of an ept slot. That would piss people off who don't want to buy the scum box to get a pilot they already have.

They could also make a new unique title or something that would work on other high PS skill pilots that don't have one... like I dunno, Kagi.

Also any card they made wouldn't need to be and in fact shouldn't be in this pack.

I don't think the lamda should have access to ept. Daredevil or barrel roll would be wierd.

Also, a title would stop Hortan from using the new y title an ept and an astromech.

Decimator has access to both; I think that's just as weird or weirder.

The only way to give Hortan an ept would be to include a new Horton card, identical except for the improvement of an ept slot. That would piss people off who don't want to buy the scum box to get a pilot they already have.

They could also make a new unique title or something that would work on other high PS skill pilots that don't have one... like I dunno, Kagi.

Also any card they made wouldn't need to be and in fact shouldn't be in this pack.

I don't think the lamda should have access to ept. Daredevil or barrel roll would be wierd.

Also, a title would stop Hortan from using the new y title an ept and an astromech.

Decimator has access to both; I think that's just as weird or weirder.

I don't think the lamda should have access to ept. Daredevil or barrel roll would be wierd.

Also, a title would stop Hortan from using the new y title an ept and an astromech.

My point was there are possibilities, it doesn't have to be a title (could be a modificatin but that'd be worse IMO) and doesn't have to be in this expansion (and I wouldn't want it to be)

I was also thinking it'd be cool to have a turret upgrade that isn't a turret, sort of like Chardaan Refit except instead of having a negative point cost it'd add +1 primary attack dice.

Call it Retrofitted Hardpoint and make it 3 or 4 points.

Decimator has access to both; I think that's just as weird or weirder.

There is certainly no shortage of "Huh?" inducing phenomena in this game. B-Wings with Advanced Sensors outmaneuvering A-Wings, and Interceptors for example.

Decimator has access to both; I think that's just as weird or weirder.

Why? It has a much better dial than the shuttle.

Should the Decimator have a better dial than the shuttle, though? In my opinion it shouldn't, it should have a dial the same or worse than the shuttle, that'd set it apart more from the YT's and maintain the differences between the factions.

I was also thinking it'd be cool to have a turret upgrade that isn't a turret, sort of like Chardaan Refit except instead of having a negative point cost it'd add +1 primary attack dice.

Call it Retrofitted Hardpoint and make it 3 or 4 points.

Shame there's no EPT on any of the other Scum-Wings. R4 Agromech + Deadeye would be nice, but it doesn't really synergise with Kavil's ability.

I just realized something about Drea... it just says receive 1 stress to acquire a target lock, but it doesn't limit who you can target lock. That's a little better than I thought. Shoot, spend the lock and stress to acquire a new lock for next turn on whoever is you're most likely target.

That's actually better than FCS in some ways, you don't lose the chance to lock if you kill her target. It's pretty much a Target Lock only version of push in the combat phase.

Hmm... might have to consider running her with either a Unhinged Astro or another ship with the Wingman EPT, so I could still use R4-B11. Also it looks like another way to reliably get TL + Focus...

On Drea: Can you spend a lock to fire a Torp, then use the new lock to modify your rolls?

I can't see a reason to say no--any time you spend a target lock, you can get a new target lock.

What I wonder though is, with the R4 Agromech: If I attack and spend a focus to modify my roll, can I use the target lock just aquired to reroll my dice? If so, does the focus previously spent also modify the eyeball I got with my reroll?

Again, I don't see a reason why you wouldn't be able to immediately spend the TL. As others have said, the wrinkle is that your focus token wouldn't go forward in time to flip any eye results from rerolled dice, so it's not as good as a "real" focus + tl combination.

It's an upgrade that's clearly aimed at making Blaster Turrets better. It'll take some time to find out if it works, but (as always) I'm hopeful that it'll be good enough.

Hoooooly crap these things look insane! That Y-Wing title wow! Rebels gonna get yet another boost! I feel so bad for Imperial players.

It's not much of a power jump, honestly. The Empire has more to worry about, but IMO they shouldn't necessarily be more worried overall.

the problem I see is that Echo and Whisper will still roll 99% of these ships without breaking a sweat.

That's debatable, I think, but Fat Falcons certainly won't roll them.

The Y-wing's maneuverability is bad enough that it lives and dies with the turrets, and none of them seem like great options:

Ion Turret: Probably the best, but at 5 points it's an expensive option

Blaster Turret: You're going to have a hard time coming up with tokens to make both attacks effective in the first place, this one eating an extra focus in the process is just going to make it worse

Autoblaster Turret: MAYBE good since it's both cheap and can produce somewhat effective attacks on its own, but also Range 1 only. It does solve the "Just use your primaries" problem, at least.

Agreed with respect to the fact that Y-wings live and die based on their turrets, and I'm fairly unhappy that Most Wanted comes with a single turret with a niche role, rather than something that's more generally usable.

The more I think about it, the more I think the R4 Agromech + Blaster Turret, will be far more prevalent than the title.

For instance, I just thought of the following list:

Kavil: Veteran Instincts, Blaster Turret, R4 Agromech

Syndicate Thug: Blaster Turret, R4 Agromech

Originally I put titles on the two Thugs but then I thought why? Is another 2 dice attack really worth giving up the turret on a modified (TL) dice attack? I don't think so...

In this list, you're probably right: you only have four ships, and one of them has (sometimes, anyway) just 2 Attack. You want to maximize the number of shots you get, and that means no A4 title.

In other lists, though, why not? For 23 points, Generic Y-wing + A4 + Ion Cannon Turret offers damage and control and a heavy, durable chassis. It requires flying with some finesse and good prediction, but that's a good thing for the game overall. On an individual basis they're certainly competitive with a Rookie Pilot or Blue Squadron Pilot, and worth a look for that reason

In other words, you can't just slap the A4 title on your current Y-wing build and be successful with it in the same way you've been successful in the past--but that second attack is a powerful incentive for people to find new ways to use it successfully.