So, when Obi-Wan, a man he had known for a couple days, dies, he screams and wails and is SO upset, but when Biggs, his childhood best friend, is blown up covering his six, all he does is a double take?
OT: Why wasn't Luke upset?
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good point. also, he should be enraged when he finds out that obi-wan knew that vader was his dad and then he just straight up lets vader kill him in front of luke to try and turn luke against vader.....
obi-wan is worse than palpatine
Maybe Biggs was really a d**k and Luke was just being nice.
obi-wan is worse than palpatine
obi-wan is worse than palpatine
That's not a high bar. Palpatine is awesome. He destroyed the Republic and the Jedi. What's not too love? (I'm being serious).
Edited by tiefanaticLuke knew Biggs would die.. He read his pilot card ability..
It was only a matter of time.
I think Radarman5 nailed it.
Luke was the cute nerdy kid at Toche High School, who finally managed to ask out Nalia Ors to the prom. He went to pick her up in his older X-34 speeder, he saw her pulling away with Biggs, in his daddy's X-38 sport land speeder (the x-34 hasnt been popular since the 38 came out.)
Luke, intimidated by Bigg's Burt Reynolds pornostache, whined his way back to Aunt Beru, who gave him a nice cup of warm blue milk and told him there are other fish in the sea.
Fast forward a moisture harvest season and Luke is on Yavin 4, preparing to fly out to meet the Empire head on and destroy the Death Star, and he runs into Biggs where he says, "It's going to be like old times, Luke."
That was when Luke's heart hardened, he just met this beautiful princess and **** it he had a shot with her. Hell he was riding out to probable death on the chance his heroics might get him in with her. He would be damned if he was going to let richboy Biggs swoop in and give her a moustache ride.
Thus when his "friend" kicked the bucket, Luke made a double take, but was thinking, "Well it was either death by Vader or some horrible space STD for that philandering bell end!"
And scene.
Edited by ZoccolaI was going to say something about being in the heatbof combat can push your emotions to one side, and let you focus on the now.
But I like Zoccola's explanation better.
That's not a high bar. Palpatine is awesome. He destroyed the Republic and the Jedi. What's not too love? (I'm being serious).obi-wan is worse than palpatine
We know you're serious, but that's because you're deep in the grip of self-justifying Mandalorian partisanship.
Palpatine was the primary party responsible for the worst excesses of both the Republic and the Jedi. Lauding him for the eventual destruction (well, we'll round up with respect to the Jedi) of things he actively worked for his entire lifetime to make contemptible is incoherent.
Edited by Vorpal SwordI believe a certain 80's movie quote sums it up mostly:
You don't have time to think up there. If you think, you're dead.
Yeah it sucks his BFF died but Luke didn't have time to dwell on it due to a dangerous case of vader on your six. I'm sure he grieved for him and his other friends off- camera after the battle.
Obviously a teenager is rational and as focused as a laser when flying around during a life and death struggle with a Dark Lord of the Sith, which he never heard of until that day, trying to gun him down while trying to find a 2m hole in the space station with a surface area of like 10,000,000,000 square miles.
Palpentine certainly brought to the forefront the flaws of the Republic. He did magnify them and make them worse. He did not create them.
As an example: Palpentine did not create the slave society on Tantooine. Nor did he forbid the Jedi from bringing peace and justice by ending slavery there. But he did take ruthless advantage of the damage done to a single person by the peculiar institution of slavery.
The Sith did not create the Hutts. The Sith did not create the Banking Clan, nor the commerce guild. But when the the Rebuplic had faltered to the point that those groups were being allowed the untrammeled ability to dictate policy, the Sith were there to turn the wobble into collapse.
And then pick up the pieces.
The novelization does have Luke shedding a tear and saying that he and Biggs are a couple of shooting stars that will never be stopped.
I believe a certain 80's movie quote sums it up mostly:
You don't have time to think up there. If you think, you're dead.
Yeah it sucks his BFF died but Luke didn't have time to dwell on it due to a dangerous case of vader on your six. I'm sure he grieved for him and his other friends off- camera after the battle.
Pretty much this. He's too busy trying to stay alive long enough to drop two torps in the exhaust port to grieve for his best friend right at that moment.
He'd already seen alot of his guys killed maybe he was just numb right then and it hit him later once the adrenaline had washed out of his system.
good point. also, he should be enraged when he finds out that obi-wan knew that vader was his dad and then he just straight up lets vader kill him in front of luke to try and turn luke against vader.....
obi-wan is worse than palpatine
Yeah, if you think about it - Obi-Wan *also* knew the Stormtroopers were going to go to Luke's step-parents house. One Jedi vs a few Stormtroopers? Yeah, that would have been over quickly, and Luke would be back at home with Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen again. Can't let THAT happen!
And, of course, the whole 'knowing Vader is Luke's dad thing and lying to Luke about it'. Not to mention knowing Leia is Luke's sister and ALSO not telling him about that - ROFL, that would sure have saved some embarrassment later...
Basically, we see Obi-Wan throughout the original trilogy as a consistent liar, bending the truth, hiding facts, and generally not acting in anyone's interest but his own goals of re-establishing the Jedi.
No one ever said Jedi aren't evil, just more subtle about it.
The fact that a pair of Jedi can walk into a quiet bar, lop someone's arm off, and expect the bar to accept "Jedi business" as a reasonable explanation... That's a problem. That's the problem that makes Palpatine's framing the Jedi for an attempted coup seem utterly plausible. That's the sort of problem for which Order 66 is a reasonable solution.
The Jedi may think of themselves as guardians of peace and justice, but I'm not sure anyone else thought of them that way. Terrifying magic beings accountable only to their own consciousness are not a comfort to most people.
That's not a problem the Sith created. But it is a problem they had an easy time recruiting from.
Sociopaths don't feel things the way normal people do. You can hardly expect normal behavior from the Butcher of Yavin...
Sociopaths don't feel things the way normal people do. You can hardly expect normal behavior from the Butcher of Yavin...
This made me laugh out loud... at work.
Also.. I don't think Luke had just met "Old Ben" I think Obi-wan had been poping up and talking to him now and again, just to keep tabs on him. As well as Uncle Owen. Remember Owen wouldn't let Old Ben give him the lightsabre earlier, from their conversation. Owen being afraid Luke would follow him off on some **** fool crusade...
Edited by onewayBiggs midi-chlorian count wasn't high enough to grieve.
Owen being afraid Luke would follow him off on some **** fool crusade...
Can't imagine why Owen would have thought that.
