I don't have cable, so I've never seen a minute of Clone Wars
Not even the Tartakovsky version?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0dwpcP4n1w
Either way, worth looking out. I'll probably never love the prequels, but after the cartoons and stuff like the LEGO Star Wars games I certainly like them a lot more.
Doesn't matter now anyway. The prequel era is over, and we are entering the Disney/Sequel era.
That cite is neither specific nor on-point. It refers specifically to the new movies. You referred to specifically the Rebels TV show affecting the FFG game, and the cite you provided did not mention Rebels, just Ep VII+.
Here's hoping they write something up for the Thrawn Trilogy.
Good stuff, but certainly in need of some retconning since the prequels.
Do they? It's been years since I read them - did the new three change the backstory in places?
Here's hoping they write something up for the Thrawn Trilogy.
Good stuff, but certainly in need of some retconning since the prequels.
Do they? It's been years since I read them - did the new three change the backstory in places?
Source of the clones, limitations of cloning tech.
Minor details, to my knowledge, i.e. the nature of the Clone Wars moreso than anything else, though unless elevated to G-canon/"movie canon" other details might be too, such as just how far back the Spaarti cloning cylinder technology and knowledge thereof goes... possibly the detail that Spaarti clones could be 'safely' grown within a year (although the Thrawn Trilogy has the ysalamiri as an explanation for how to grow them much, much more quickly).
That cite is neither specific nor on-point. It refers specifically to the new movies. You referred to specifically the Rebels TV show affecting the FFG game, and the cite you provided did not mention Rebels, just Ep VII+.
I could offer you
HC: Are you operating completely independently from the feature film group or is there some measure of coordination?
Dave Filoni: There is a large effort at Lucasfilm to make all the stories we are creating relate to one another and find continuity with one another. It’s one of the really exciting developments in this new era.
I disliked the cartoon Clone Wars series immensely - the art style was too much for me, as was the manner in which most of the characters were portrayed; the animated follow up was far superior in my opinion, though it only really started to grab my attention with the arrival of Series 3-5.
Also, one thing that the Series did right? Tarkin. He was epic in those shows.
it only really started to grab my attention with the arrival of Series 3-5.
This! I wrestled my way through season 1 thinking it only sightly better than the Clone Wars feature length monstrosity. I only endured because I heard people saying it would get better, however it still almost took my 9 months to finish that season... I just couldn't see the appeal at all... Then season 2 turned out to be a lot more fun and I actually started enjoying the odd episode a lot.
Now I am watching season 3 and it is a delight. So now I am either brainwashed into liking the clone wars by sheer submission or the quality really made a large leap after season 2 came to its conclusion.
Probably sheer submission.
I watched it because my nephew adores it, and Star Wars in general; but after Series 3 I began to take to the characters and stories a lot more (even if Anakin still annoys the hell out of me).
Do they? It's been years since I read them - did the new three change the backstory in places?
The timing of the Clone Wars, for one (at that time the given timeline had it finish I think at least 10, maybe 20, years earlier). This is actually a plot point that Leia uses to realise that the Noghri have been deceived. There have been attempts to salvage the continuity by saying she was referring to Noghri years, but that falls down when compared to the text, as the whole point is that she realises what happens when she converts their history into "human" dates.
Also the presumption at the time was that the Clones were the enemy, rather than the army of the Republic. Also, I always got the impression that it was referred to as the Clone War s (rather than the Clone War, which seems more appropriate with the current canon, though the Driod War seems more appropriate again) because it wasn't one conflict against one enemy, but a series of conflicts against various opponents who used armies of clones.
Here's hoping they write something up for the Thrawn Trilogy.
Good stuff, but certainly in need of some retconning since the prequels.
Do they? It's been years since I read them - did the new three change the backstory in places?
Source of the clones, limitations of cloning tech.
Zahn also suggests that the clones were the Republic's opposition in the Clone Wars (Pellaeon apparently had some experience fighting against clones), but since he doesn't--and probably wasn't allowed to--state that explicitly, that's a little easier to work around than the points you mention.
The only thing I'm getting from those links Erik posted is that going forward, Disney intends to make an effort to make sure everything integrates more coherantly rather than having to retcon things in order to help them fit. I doubt that means they're going to turn stormtroopers into keystone cops or anything else that dramatic. That would be on the level of having Luke and Leia ending up as a couple.
The only thing I'm getting from those links Erik posted is that going forward, Disney intends to make an effort to make sure everything integrates more coherantly rather than having to retcon things in order to help them fit. I doubt that means they're going to turn stormtroopers into keystone cops or anything else that dramatic. That would be on the level of having Luke and Leia ending up as a couple.
Point the first, if Disney intends to make an effort to make sure everything integrates better, it is probably a fairly safe bet that FFG will be using Rebels fluff before too long, and point the second, outside of a handful of stormtrooper fanboys the whole **** world already thinks Stormtroopers are keystone cops.
If you look up Mook on TVtropes there is a picture of a stormtrooper
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Mooks
Stormtroopers being keystone cops isn't a radical change. Stormtroopers being any good would be a radical change!
Nah, Stormtroopers are awesome. Gotta love how they protect the galaxy against the villainous acts of the Evil Rebel Alliance.
outside of a handful of stormtrooper fanboys the whole **** world already thinks Stormtroopers are keystone cops.
Not a fan and I disagree. So..... Wrong again.
Nothing FFG has done has veered away from Star Wars. Nothing. So they have jothing to change or correct or anything else.
You know. This is taking more and more the shape of a religious quarrel of some sort, believers vs UNBELIEVERS and INFIDELS!
where apparently anyone who disagrees with ErikB is an infidel and unbeliever, and everyone - including ErikB - claims to be of the right faith... I need more wasabi peas, let's see if we can reach 40 pages, not far away.
Okay, Daleks versus the Empire - who would win.
Disclaimer: I hate these VS debates without structure or guidelines, so lets set the parameters. Palpatine is at the height of his powers, the Death Star is complete but not yet blown up, the Empire is full in control. A portion of the Dalek fleet, caught in the Time War, slip through a crack in the Medusa Cascade over to the Wars universe.
So, a handful of Dalek ships, no Doctor or Time Lords to stop them, a whole galaxy prime for total extermination. How does it play out?
(There, that should be good for at least four pages!)
Edited by DesslokNothing FFG has done has veered away from Star Wars. Nothing. So they have jothing to change or correct or anything else.
Those of you with particularly long memories might remember that I was proposing the radical and game changing adjustment that in order to improve compliance with Rebels and everything else going forwards it might be a good idea to drop the idea of there being an "Imperial Army" separate from the Stormtroopers, make the Stormtroopers the line grunts of the Empire and ensure there is a Stormtrooper stat block to provide entry level mooking.
Nothing you've linked to leads anyone, except you, to any such conclusion. Nothing said in those links has the stormtroopers being turned into keystone cops nor does it affect anythimg else. All that is said is that they are going to endeaver to keep things cohearant. Nice Rebel propaganda though. It nice that you think that that only way that the Rebels can win is if they are ubermensch jedi and Rambos up against zombie idiots that can't tie their laces. They rest of us will go on treating them like the soldiers of the Empire that they are.
So, just to be clear, you are expecting to see "Imperial Army" guys in Rebels?
Okay, Daleks versus the Empire - who would win.
Disclaimer: I hate these VS debates without structure or guidelines, so lets set the parameters. Palpatine is at the height of his powers, the Death Star is complete but not yet blown up, the Empire is full in control. A portion of the Dalek fleet, caught in the Time War, slip through a crack in the Medusa Cascade over to the Wars universe.
So, a handful of Dalek ships, no Doctor or Time Lords to stop them, a whole galaxy prime for total extermination. How does it play out?
(There, that should be good for at least four pages!)
Death Star 1 or 2?
Oh, for the sake of argument, lets go Death Star 2 - but fully completed.
So, just to be clear, you are expecting to see "Imperial Army" guys in Rebels?
Well they appeared in the movies, so why not?
Okay, Daleks versus the Empire - who would win.
Disclaimer: I hate these VS debates without structure or guidelines, so lets set the parameters. Palpatine is at the height of his powers, the Death Star is complete but not yet blown up, the Empire is full in control. A portion of the Dalek fleet, caught in the Time War, slip through a crack in the Medusa Cascade over to the Wars universe.
So, a handful of Dalek ships, no Doctor or Time Lords to stop them, a whole galaxy prime for total extermination. How does it play out?
(There, that should be good for at least four pages!)
A handful of Daleks can rebuild their race easily, and with time travel technology this isn't really a fight. Now, if you had posited the Daleks Pre-Time War, well then...that could be interesting.
Edit - Of course, now I am seeing Dalek sith with little red lightsabers in their suction cup hands. Adorable.
