And, there's Erik (let's talk about me some more) B !

Just noting that all beings can fight the Evil Empire.

Proud British members of the Rebel Alliance also include Dan Dare, Pilot of the Future who battled the Mekon of Mekonta, ruler of the Treens of Venus:-

Robin Hood,

who opposed the tyrannical Prince John and the elite Stormtroopers of the Sheriff of Nottingham

Francis Drake, who had time to finish his game of bowls before heading out to defeat the Spanish Armada.

And the rebel longbowmen who beat the elite Stormtroopers of the French aristocracy.

We need some Episode IV spirit in this thread!

Sith book sounds pretty cool. Especially considering how many people I've seen insisting on playing dark/grey Jedi in Saga/WEG. Being Lawful Stupid gets pretty old, as even in-setting members of the Order often note.

To be fair, Stormtroopers are fairly high end minions stat-wise.

Which we now have confirmation does not properly reflect their role in the setting.

You are absolutely right - Stormtroopers need to be a LOT more badass and lethal and effective. We are in total agreement on this point!

You are absolutely right - Stormtroopers need to be a LOT more badass and lethal and effective. We are in total agreement on this point!

And thanks to Age of Rebellion you even have templates on which to build your elite stormies, good show!

With all due respect - if you truly believe he is a troll you are kind of stupid for continuing to feed him. There is, and have always been, only one way to deal with an internet troll.

Yeah, it's called ignoring the jackass. Which is what I do, and encourage others to do. If you actually have indeed read this thread, then you'll see that he goes out of his way to egg people, and other posters keep taking the bait.

And the "stupid" remark was completely uncalled for as I've made no such accusations against you, much less have I responded to any of ErikB's posts in this thread or any other part of the forum.

The right word is not ignore. It is irony.

Just came back from a four day session in York. It was a blast.)

York Ontario ? Let's play!

York, UK, sadly!

My mom was Canadian, though.

Just came back from a four day session in York. It was a blast.)

York Ontario ? Let's play!

York as in the original, in the UK. Maelora is a glorious subject of Her Royal Highness, Queen Elizabeth II, just as I am

Haha, I'm actually a proud Welsh girl, so that's a conquered and reluctant subject, thanks!

And as a brief reply to ErikB... many of those longbowmen who took down the French were Welshmen... There's a nice description of the Battle of Crecy in the museum in Llantrisant.

"Space British Empire vs. indigenous colonized peoples".

To be fair, the British Empire wasn't all bad... They did some good stuff along with the bad, such as ending horrific practises like suttee in India. Brits were instrumental in ending the slave trade too.

And they seemed to have a sense of fair play (and a few noble heroes) that the Classic Era Empire lacks.

(and this is speaking as one of these indigenous colonised peoples.... the ones right next door

"Space British Empire vs. indigenous colonized peoples".

To be fair, the British Empire wasn't all bad... They did some good stuff along with the bad, such as ending horrific practises like suttee in India. Brits were instrumental in ending the slave trade too.

And they seemed to have a sense of fair play (and a few noble heroes) that the Classic Era Empire lacks.

(and this is speaking as one of these indigenous colonised peoples.... the ones right next door

Not the English's fault Owain Glyndŵr was a rubbish Prince of Wales You have more of a say over how your country is run than the English do now though, so you shouldn't be complaining

Anyways, I'm living in Scotland now, moved up here just over 2 weeks ago for a job, so I might well end up being a Scottish citizen if independence happens (fat chance of that though).

But yea, the British Empire wasn't entirely bad, we did do a lot of good things too, and it now helps us even after the Empire, since so many countries are now run with the same languages and political systems as us, it makes it easier for us to deal with one another.

To be fair, the British Empire wasn't all bad... They did some good stuff along with the bad, such as ending horrific practises like suttee in India. Brits were instrumental in ending the slave trade too.

Still, the FTFY ("fixed that for you") was another look at painting good guys vs. bad guys in the context of original movie trilogy-style Star Wars with (overly) broad strokes... take the premise that the Empire is every oppressive empire in history that the GM identifies as such, take the premise that the Rebels are those respective empires' armed resistances who the empires call " terrorists "... doesn't that sound familiar, Maelora? (Your and MILLANDSON's takes on the historical British Empire are both accepted in good faith, but hopefully this paragraph makes even clearer my intent that you responded to.)

... but seriously, I listen to an Imperial officer in the original trilogy and all I can hear is " the playing fields of Eton "... and if we use an "peculiar" interpretation of G-canon, well that's certainly not German I hear coming out of their mouths in the English voice track...

And they seemed to have a sense of fair play (and a few noble heroes) that the Classic Era Empire lacks.

(As for why I say that second of three bits, about stories told in such a way as to reek of propaganda... well, let's just say it was an excuse to sneak in a plug for Kieron Gillen's Three . That, and it's no coincidence that for the three slave protagonists on the run, their would-be slave-pursuers are three hundred Spartans ...

Seriously though, you could really adapt this into Star Wars JUST FINE as the story of an Imperial sector... although even then, the story shifts gears to be less about "Imperials" and more about "the Imperial system "...)

Although, speaking of captains and responsibility, do you have any idea just how many fanfiction authors attribute to a certain Firmus Piett (" You are in command now, Admiral Piett!") a competence and quality that he may or may not have merited, just because he was the one promoted in Ozzel's place, he didn't have any obvious screwups, and he managed to not get Force-choked at the end of Episode V? In hindsight he may have actually been the Peter Principle at work...

(and this is speaking as one of these indigenous colonised peoples.... the ones right next door

But yea, the British Empire wasn't entirely bad, we did do a lot of good things too, and it now helps us even after the Empire, since so many countries are now run with the same languages and political systems as us, it makes it easier for us to deal with one another.

I don't think that any RL empire can be considered entirely bad. For that matter, even the Galactic Empire of Star Wars isn't entirely bad. They helped to build order from the chaos of the Clone Wars. Sure, the Emperor may have created that chaos, but almost no one in the Empire knows that outside of the highest levels and the good being done is much more far reaching.

Whereas I was thinking more the Opium Wars, the unequal treaties (not just with Qing China), extraterritoriality, proselytizing, artificially redrawn boundaries and their cascading effects on the 20th and 21st centuries... though of course the British Empire was hardly alone in those respects, and of course the discourse and sentiments within the Empire varied a lot, sometimes even from the top, such as Lord Salisbury's certain 1900 remarks about missionaries... delivered before/to gathered clergy, no less!

This is one of the reasons I think the 19th century British Empire is a good analogy for the Tau in 40k. They were not evil, but if they felt it was their business, and that they had the means to do it, they would interfere in your business regardless what you thought. This was all while thinking they were making the world a better place for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUpbOliTHJY

The way I see it, on the days when you are trying to wipe slavery off the planet you are the Rebel Alliance, and on the days you are going to war to maintain your narcotics trade you are the Evil Empire. The goal is to spend more time as the Rebel Alliance than you do as the Evil Empire.

... but seriously, I listen to an Imperial officer in the original trilogy and all I can hear is "the playing fields of Eton"... and if we use an "peculiar" interpretation of G-canon, well that's certainly not German I hear coming out of their mouths in the English voice track...

The Empire:- They dress like Nazis and talk like Brits. How much less subtle do you want it to be that they are supposed to be the bad guys?

For that matter, even the Galactic Empire of Star Wars isn't entirely bad. They helped to build order from the chaos of the Clone Wars.

Nah. People hoped that Palpatine would use the unlimited power handed to him to build order after the chaos of the Clone Wars, but he actually plunged the the Galaxy in to a dark age of repression, purges, thought policing and unending military conquest.

For that matter, even the Galactic Empire of Star Wars isn't entirely bad. They helped to build order from the chaos of the Clone Wars.

Nah. People hoped that Palpatine would use the unlimited power handed to him to build order after the chaos of the Clone Wars, but he actually plunged the the Galaxy in to a dark age of repression, purges, thought policing and unending military conquest.

That's just propaganda being produced by those vile terrorists in the so-called Rebellion.

But given that Disney did not spend four billion dollars to issue a strongly worded telling off to people who like stupid fairy tales like Star Wars I don't see there is too much of a percentage in getting overly attached to the Imp version of events. That road will only lead to disappointment when, for instance, they go out of their way to clarify that Stormtroopers suck.

You need to be banned. As soon as possible.

I am trying to do you guys a favour. Don't get too attached to the Empire.

Reported. Again.

That's just propaganda being produced by those vile terrorists in the so-called Rebellion.

But given that Disney did not spend four billion dollars to issue a strongly worded telling off to people who like stupid fairy tales like Star Wars I don't see there is too much of a percentage in getting overly attached to the Imp version of events. That road will only lead to disappointment when, for instance, they go out of their way to clarify that Stormtroopers suck.

More propaganda from the Rebellion. Stormtroopers are the epitome of service to the Empire's Military. Only the best are taken. And if you are the best of the best you can serve in the Royal Guard, protecting our Emperor.

Anyone else find it ironic that the way he portrays Disney in all this is exactly how he portrays the Empire?

You need to be banned. As soon as possible.

For what, exactly, should he be banned? I ignore his posts, so I'm really asking. What specific violations of the board policy has he violated? If it's just because you don't enjoy his posts, Ignore!