Step one Get young anakin skywalker.
Step two give him a starfighter
Step three point him to the USS enterprise
Step four He Dies
Step five Profit
Or just send Jar Jar as a present, if you wish to do some overkill.
Star Wars vs. Star Trek
Things to consider:
Trek fluff states that the enterprise' shields are impervious to lasers. A star destroyer has turbo lasers. This, asuming turbo in this case means rapid-fire, would mean that a Star destroyer has no hope of damaging starfleet ships.
Trek has (almost) no carriers or fighter squadrons, so i'd like to see how that would play out in the game. Can't we make it a threeway with battlestar galactica?
Trek has teleporters: teleport photon torpedo on enemy bridge, anyone? (srsly, why don't they do that on the show?)
Why not make it a four way and bring in Babylon 5
Five-way: Gundam. All of them.
Stupid transforming junk would have no chance.
Just think of how many weak points something like that would have. Every joint is a weak point and for what gain?
look at a starfury, that's how you make a space fighter.
Things to consider:
Trek fluff states that the enterprise' shields are impervious to lasers. A star destroyer has turbo lasers. This, asuming turbo in this case means rapid-fire, would mean that a Star destroyer has no hope of damaging starfleet ships.
Trek has (almost) no carriers or fighter squadrons, so i'd like to see how that would play out in the game. Can't we make it a threeway with battlestar galactica?
Trek has teleporters: teleport photon torpedo on enemy bridge, anyone? (srsly, why don't they do that on the show?)
Why not make it a four way and bring in Babylon 5
because b5 has no shields at all and their ships would be slaughtered by fighters with torpedo's.
That's like saying F16's can take F22's!
B5 tech is reliant on jamming, maneuverability or shooting down incoming rounds.
Ordnance would almost never make its mark.
And good luck taking on a Shadow ship
WhiteStar fleet anyone
All the new fighters joining in on this fight must now take on the might of the completed 2nd Death Star. Anyone without equv firepower of the Super Laser Mk 2 must flee or pledge loyalty to the Emperor on the Obsidian thrown ; )
Edited by Black Knight LeaderI say we put 40k, wars, trek, battlestar and babylon 5 in a blender and see what happens. But i'm afraid the entire conflict would boil down to who would win; C'tan or Vorlons.
We'll be discussing whether pepsi or cola is better next...We must be getting hard up for things to discuss. I've noticed more than a few old threads resurfacing of late.
Coke by far!!!
Pepsi just tastes flat.
Blasphemy. 
I say we put 40k, wars, trek, battlestar and babylon 5 in a blender and see what happens. But i'm afraid the entire conflict would boil down to who would win; C'tan or Vorlons.
HA, they basically already did that in Pallidum books "Rifts" =]
all the factions are stuck on earth with a magic field that prevents space travel. Although the space time is badly damaged. You got peeps falling in from other unviverses.
Edited by Black Knight Leaderstardestroyer.net settled the debate for me.
This argument is pointless because you are comparing 2 different genres. 1 interesting fact that people seem to neglect is that lasers are actually superheated plasma created by tibanna gas, and fired using a laser delivery system. Now if you look back, Plasma weapons are being phased out in the 22nd century of Star Trek with phasers which are more powerful. Star Wars technology doesn't necessarily beat Star Trek.
Now on what the OP intended, X-wing wins hands down. Now if Attack was developed by FFG, that opinion might have changed.......
Also, to whoever said the thing about torp beaming. Transporters don't work through shields, that's why they never do that in the shows. I honestly think a lot of the Dominion War era ships outclass SDs (Defiants, Sovereigns, and Prometheus (Promethei?)), however, no fighter support would be killer.
This argument is pointless because you are comparing 2 different genres. 1 interesting fact that people seem to neglect is that lasers are actually superheated plasma created by tibanna gas, and fired using a laser delivery system. Now if you look back, Plasma weapons are being phased out in the 22nd century of Star Trek with phasers which are more powerful. Star Wars technology doesn't necessarily beat Star Trek.
Now on what the OP intended, X-wing wins hands down. Now if Attack was developed by FFG, that opinion might have changed.......
They made it clear in SW complete vehicles that Laser weapons are Lasers and not plasma. IM just going to cut too the chase a point out a basic tid bit. If Lasers and blasters were REALLY plasma weapons weapons developers in the Empire would just name them plasma weapons, they do this already with plasma weapons in the empire.
It's not laser because it doesn't behave like a laser. As simple as that.
stardestroyer.net settled the debate for me.
This one ?
Look on the wookiee, and in encyclopedias, they clearly state they don't use lasers.
EDIT: Looked it up, Blasters are indeed NOT lasers. Not all are plasma based, however. All the blue blasters/turbos you see are plasma based blasters. Green and red ones are particle beams. I should note particle beams aren't very effective in ST
Blasters were a considerable improvement over the archaic laser design. Instead of a coherent beam of light, the blaster fired a compressed, focused, high-energy particle beam that was very destructive, commonly referred to as a "bolt"
Proof enough?
Edited by YwingAceIt's not laser because it doesn't behave like a laser. As simple as that.
stardestroyer.net settled the debate for me.
This one ?
No, the larger Trek vs. Wars debate:
the problem with using facts based on encyclopedias, is again, ST is a realistic science fiction, SW is a fantasy fiction (Force, Jedi, etc.). ST tries to be realistic, while SW already knows they failed the realistic test when they invented the force so they don't give a crap. Particle beams barely penetrate anything in ST. They are the primary weapon in SW. ST weapon power levels are based on realistic measurements etc. SW weapon levels are based on observation (Observation mind you!) and some arbitrary guess as to what they are. If you were to put both shows weapon levels into REALISTIC power levels, you would notice that suddenly, it doesn't look so bad for ST. Lets admit guys, SW weapon power levels are downright silly.
If it is a question about who would win Star Wars Ships vs. Star Trek Ships here is the my rundown:
Star Trek vessels are vastly superior ships in every way to a Star Wars Vessel. The Star Trek Technology would be unimaginable advanced compared to that of Star Wars. The Phasor’s energy output is measured in the Gigawatts, That enough energy to power a small city! Turbo laser are a mere fraction of this power level. The Shields of the Star Treks vessels is designed to with stand multiple hit Star Trek technology. It would take large amounts of concentrated firepower from the Empire's fleet to bring down the shields of Star Trek vessel. The fighter craft like the Tie Fighter or X-wing would be a waste of time, being the star Trek vessel are faster and could just simple run over them with almost no damage to the shield. The Star Trek vessel combat speed and maneuverability are also far superior. Never mind the combat advantage of the Transporter.
With that being said if it was all out war between the Federation and the Empire, The Federation would lose. Why. The Empires ability to “Jump” anywhere at any time, means that control where the battles take place. And Sheer Numbers the Empire can bring to bare. The fleets of the Empire are measured in the thousand of ship. The empire could simply fight a war of attrition and win.
Just my opinion.
Edited by devotedknightI say we put 40k, wars, trek, battlestar and babylon 5 in a blender and see what happens. But i'm afraid the entire conflict would boil down to who would win; C'tan or Vorlons.
The Shadows!
Star Trek is the UN in space. Star Wars is the American Revolution in space. Nuff said.
Star Trek is the UN in space. Star Wars is the American Revolution in space. Nuff said.
Then what's warhammer 40k? World war II?
It's not laser because it doesn't behave like a laser. As simple as that.
stardestroyer.net settled the debate for me.
This one ?
No, the larger Trek vs. Wars debate:
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/
Oh great
And the TL:DR version
It's not laser because it doesn't behave like a laser. As simple as that.
stardestroyer.net settled the debate for me.
This one ?
No, the larger Trek vs. Wars debate:
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/
Oh great
And the TL:DR version
http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Essays/FiveMinutes.html
Who ever came up with the numbers in star wars was out of control. By those numbers Slave I can destroy planets. I think if this argument were to be taken seriously only what was seen in the films can be used not the tech manuals.
Besides if the empire had a hard time dealing with the falcon imagine the defiant zipping around, although I think it would have been a rough fight for the federation to attack the deathstar because it was built to fight against capital ships.
You even have the sources for those numbers, why don't you check them up instead ?
The star wars numbers are just arbitrary.
Its this simple, look at most popular competing Sci-Fi, check their numbers then multiply by what ever number you fancy.
The best way to compare wars vs trek is:
Star Wars is Science Fantasy
Star Trek is Science Fiction
Another thing look at capital ship combat in Wars its slow and generally involves said ships pulling along side each other and fighting 'age of sail' style