I am starting to write an adventure for a murder mystery. So these ideas are just my thoughts currently

The problem I am having is finding a spell for mind control. In Advanced Heroquest there was a spell for Amethyst Wizards called Spirit Control. Maybe I am missing it but I cant seem to find one in my cards which can do the same thing. I dont have any 2nd edition books to look up.

There is lots of precedent for "possession" in WFRP fluff.

You could explain limits on ability and create clues by requiring that the ability to possess doesn't work "cold". Going back to legends of witches needing a bit of your hair etc. (just read a historical fiction book in which as an aside the hero burns or otherwise safely disposes of his hair one of the few times its cut "just in case a witch would find it"), that and perhaps needing to plant something on the victims or even do something like tattoo them etc. Some "sympathy" created of caster has something from them and they bear his mark etc.

Warpstone of course being one fun way of marking that can create hazhards exploring.

I could make up a spell like you suggest. But would a wizard use witchcraft? Dont like to use warpstone, as that warps the holder quite quickly I think. Unless i use a shaven, undead controller or chaos controller. Which I am thinking be too obvious.

I think what i need to do is work backwards, get the possible endings first and work them backwards to the beginning, might help me picture the story.

A campaign plot with a mastermind who is actually saving the empire.

Other ideas i been having. The wizard is daemon pocessed, that way has more powerful spells. Slaanesh and Tzeentch would be good candidates.

Its a new spell that this person has invented or an old one, and is killing off his fellow researchers.

I thought maybe it only worked on magically gifted people or chaos followers.

The idea of some form of body parts, hair etc to cause the spell to work, sounds good too.

I have a good idea now of the story. The weakness is the what ifs.

I think this will work.

Now to find out if the Colleges of Wizards have secret organizations and if they are named.

Okay I found an old Black Industrials wizard book I had.

So witches are just hedge wizards who have lived longer.

Grey Order - Traitor of Tarn

LordoftheMilk said:

Thanks so much for spotting this spell. No idea how I missed it.

Also being Grey magic, shadowy, is perfect. SInce rank 3. I will make it so its a mastermind behind the whole affair.

Still think I will go with the renegade spell researchers, but at least I can have a few possible methods of wizard domination going on.

Found the conservitive spell on the preview page on FFG for Winds of Magic. When I get home, I will seek it out. The main question I have is 2 empire symbols means the target is unaware until they are taken over. Since I am still learning the rules. Do i get to pick only one result from the 3 listed. or is it only one pick from the 1 hammer or 3 hammer if i get those plus the 2 empires if i get that as well.

If I dont get the 2 empire symbols, does the target know its controlled then? and wont they tell people?

The empire symbol results can be added to the anvil results.

You can also check the Morr blessings. There is one where you can influence a target in his dreams. It is less brutal than traitor but perhaps more efficient in the end.