Yesterday when playing with Angela embedded with the snipers, I had to lose 1 unit. I chose to lose the sniper unit because I wanted to keep the spotter alive to enhance Angela's frenzy skill.

My question: Are the 2 skills (sniper and spotter) particular to each unit or does both units share the abilities?

Followup:

If only my spotter was left would he have the sniper ability when attacking?

Thank you.

Each figure possesses one of the Skills. if the guy with the rifle dies, you no longer have the Sniper skill; if the guy with the binoculars dies, you no longer have the Spotter skill.

Thanks for the reply. That is what I thought. Just wanted to check.

My understanding is the spotter never receives the sniper ability, but the sniper and spotter receive the spotter ability when rolling hits. If the spotter goes, the sniper loses the spotter ability. If the sniper goes, the spotter still has the spotter ability but never had the sniper ability to begin with.

Jiltedtoo said:

That is correct sir.

Not quite correct. The soldier with the rifle doesn't "receive" the spotter ability, it belongs only to the soldier with the binoculars. What happens is that the Spotter ability rules state that its effect takes place "When his squad attacks", so the other soldier benefits from its effect. The Sniper rules, on the other hand only state that it affects the figure that has it.

A unit with this skill carries binoculars and always accompanies a sniper or a heavy
weapons squad in order to increase their accuracy. When his squad attacks,
reverse the dice results (i.e., consider as , and as ). Because
dice results are reversed, a unit including a spotter rerolls results (instead of
results) when performing a sustained attack.

Note the above quot from the core rule spotter skill. It says ' when his squad attacks”
We have always counted the spotter as hitting on blanks in our leagues and tournaments.
I think this is one to ask the FFG rule guys.

What is there to ask? When anybody in his squad attacks, they hit on blanks.

My point is the spotter is part of the squad.

Sure, is anybody saying differently?

My point is both the spotter and the sniper hit on blanks as long as the spotter is alive.

which was my point in my example.

Panzer soldier said:

Yep, a point nobody contested.

So what was your beef in the first place Loopy? were you bored?

I'm getting lost in this discussin, Panzer Soldier what exactly made you so angry at Loophole?

I thing we were all saying the same thing but didn't realize it. It's sad I can have a decent conversation on face book about dust, but not on this site. It's pathetic really.

Beef? I have no beef. I was just saying that it's the binoculars guy who has the Spotter skill, but the rifle guy also benefits from it. While it's the rifle guy who has the Sniper skill, but only he benefits from it.

To me it was always clear we were saying the same thing, you were the only who didn't realize it. So keep that "sad an pathetic" comment directed at yourself.

I think my only mistake was paying attention to what you wrote in the first place.

Don't beat yourself up, to err is human.