Shadow Walker said:
1.TT stats are made to balance game and that is why SM are much weaker in TT than they are portrayed in fluff. Of course it does not change that in fluff SM will still be weaker and less tougher than an Ogryn.
2. As I said before I am fine with starting wounds of 25+1d5 but S/T unnaturals should be 4 at least to make any sense at all [how can Ork Stormboy be tougher? By the way who decided that Stormboyz should be tougher than other Boyz? Its complete nonsense.] Scrap comrades and Ballistic Skill Aptitude completly and add Hardy and Hammer Blow.
Except that even THOSE stats are used by the writers to help dictate the relative power!
ANY time an Ogryn has ever shown up in any of the dozens of BL books or even just fluff in the margins I've read, a single one often kills 2-3 members of the Marine's tactical squad. Or at least injures a few bad enough to put them out of the fight (Much more common). Put simply, even in the fluff they are Larger AND Stronger than a Marine. Not better fighters by any means, just larger, tougher, and stronger than a Marine in Power Armor.
For that matter, high powered orks are as well, again, not as skilled necessarily, but always said to be nearly as tough as a Marine… the biggest ones are the size of Ogryn. But Ogryn are STILL supposed to be as strong and tough as the biggest Orks. Yes, as strong and tough as the Ork Warbosses. the ones in this game can't even match up to the Ork Stormboys! Let alone a Marine.
Ogryn are big, dumb, monsters. Marines are highly skilled professional soldiers. That's the difference, the Marine has skills, but not the size.