Hello.

Can some one please explain to me why in the character sheet the skills:

Awareness - Climb - Concealment and Silent Move are market as Basic and Trained ?

Arent Basic and Trained supposed to distinguish between skills that can be rolled whitout previous knowledge (in the case of Basic stat/2) and those that cant be rolled at all?

Thx.

fenix8969 said:

The character sheet really wasn't very well made and contains mistakes (like leaving out dodge). Inconsistencies should really just be ignored.

But to get to the heart of your question, the skills are marked basic, because even if the marines weren't trained in they could still roll on them using half their attribute. They are trained, so you don't really need them to be marked basic too, but it's just basic information redundancy in case at some point in the future some hypothetical DW book comes out that gives an alternative trained starting skill allotment. In case that happens and said alternative starting allotment doesn't include the skills as trained, you'd know you still have them as basic skills.

I'm sure its also to maintain consistancy with both other rulesets and to keep the method of marking skills on the single character sheet uniform.

If you were playing a kill-marine in a Rogue Trader game for instance and a situation came up where no one has books and only the space marine had his sheet and someone gets attacked and wants to dodge but theres a question whether he can since he's not trained. Since in this (highly unlikly) situation the only thing the players have to go on is the one sheet, if it were not marked basic (because its already marked trained) it may lead the group to think dodge is an advanced skill (and yes I know the basic sheet has an error with dodge, this is just an example).

Also consitancy in presenting information is very important and proffesional. It may seem a waste of effort to some to marke a skill the player starts out with as trained and basic, but in almost any real world situation, not filling out information like this to save time would likely cost a company a contract, or a job searcher a hire.

fenix8969 said:

No, that's the difference between Basic and Advanced Skills.

Here's a breakdown:

Trained Basic = normal roll at full Characteristic

Untrained Basic = roll at 1/2 Characteristic

Trained Advance = same as Trained Basic

Untrained Advance = no roll allowed

Ok guys.

Thx a lot for taking time to answear my question .