Damage Resistance-Am I Missing Something??

By Major Headcase, in Dust Tactics Rules Discussion

Multiple time on this forum, I have seen the special Ability "Damage Resistance" talked about, and in almost all of those times, it is implied that the skill only allows re-rolls IF the model is already in cover? and cannot be used if the model is NOT in cover of some kind?

When I read the rule for the ability, I take it to mean that the Damage Resistance had to be rolled AFTER the cover rolls, IF THERE ARE ANY TO BE ROLLED. This only establishes the ORDER in wich rolls must be made, not that you DONT get to roll if there are no cover saves. It simply states that cover rolls must be made first, THEN the skill rolls are made.

The description of the ability states that the model is especialy resistant to damage or tough, it dose not say that the model is exseptionaly skilled at cowering in the corner, and maximizing cover!

Am I missing something? Is there an FAQ I didnt read, or a ruling in the forum I need to see?

Please help me fellow geeks, you're my only hope!!!

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Major Headcase said:

Multiple time on this forum, I have seen the special Ability "Damage Resistance" talked about, and in almost all of those times, it is implied that the skill only allows re-rolls IF the model is already in cover? and cannot be used if the model is NOT in cover of some kind?

I have no idea where you read that. I'm an active reader of this forum and I don't remember ever seeing someone propose this erroneous notion.

Anyway, that is definitely NOT the case. Damage Resilient gets rolled against ALL attacks (initially it didn't work against flamethrowers, artillery and Range 1 weapons, but that has since been removed). It makes no difference whatsoever if the units is already in Hard Cover or Soft Cover, he always gets to roll his Damage Resilient as well. If there's any cover to be rolled, resolve that, then take any remaining hits and roll Damage Resilient on them. No cover? just roll Damage Resilient.

Loophole Master said:

Major Headcase said:

Multiple time on this forum, I have seen the special Ability "Damage Resistance" talked about, and in almost all of those times, it is implied that the skill only allows re-rolls IF the model is already in cover? and cannot be used if the model is NOT in cover of some kind?

I have no idea where you read that. I'm an active reader of this forum and I don't remember ever seeing someone propose this erroneous notion.

Anyway, that is definitely NOT the case. Damage Resilient gets rolled against ALL attacks (initially it didn't work against flamethrowers, artillery and Range 1 weapons, but that has since been removed). It makes no difference whatsoever if the units is already in Hard Cover or Soft Cover, he always gets to roll his Damage Resilient as well. If there's any cover to be rolled, resolve that, then take any remaining hits and roll Damage Resilient on them. No cover? just roll Damage Resilient.

Thats the way I play too. But I will say that when I am at the game store playing against other people, this is one special ability that people really get confused with.

As Loopy says, not sure where you read you have to get a cover save for Damage Resistance to work.

The wording could confuse some, because the description talks about rolling Damage Resiliant, 'After rolling cover saves,..' For people who have played some of those wonderful games that encourage 'creative' interpretation of English, I could see them missing the immediatley following, 'if any,..' as meaning there doesn't have to be a cover save, and assuming the ability is only a secondary cover save.

The wording is fine, but there are too many game companies that use creative application of English to explain away their mistakes, and it causes problems for other games.

I read it described that way in two different posts, one in the Dust Warfare forum, and it came up that way twice in game play with new people at my local game store.

I play it the way you all seem to, but it happened enough to make me second guess myself. Thanks for the smack up side the head. sorpresa.gif

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