Phantom and precision ion engine

By Ploxis, in X-Wing Rules Questions

I'm pretty sure that the Phantom is not allowed to equip the PIE, but I just wanted to double check.

Is it possible to equip it and then only use it when cloaked (since you gain 2 agility when cloaked, boosting total to 4 agility)

Correct, you cannot equip PIE to a tie Phantom. This is because the agility on the card while assembling your squad is 2. The game effect of cloaking (increasing agility by 2) is not active at that point. Similar to how the Delta-7B configuration for the Jedi star fighter doesn’t make R2 Astromech any cheaper.

Edited by Synel
Well, similar but not the same as. ^

Yeah, no. They thought it through pretty well. The two most powerful Tie ships cannot use it. The Defender, and the Tie Phantom. That'd make them.. probably too strong.

4 hours ago, Lyianx said:

Yeah, no. They thought it through pretty well. The two most powerful Tie ships cannot use it. The Defender, and the Tie Phantom. That'd make them.. probably too strong.

Amusingly, there are almost no ships that both equip it, AND use it. Of the myriad TIE variants out there, only four three can actually make use of the card (and for one of them, only a single pilot) :

  • Mining Guild TIE Fighter
  • Nimbus-class V-Wing
  • TIE Advanced v1 No slow K-Turns, no Mod slot
  • TIE Advanced x1 No slow K-Turns; not even Ved Foslo can do it, thanks to timing.
  • TIE Aggressor Agility too low
  • TIE Bomber Agility too low
  • TIE Defender no Mod slot
  • TIE Heavy Agility too low
  • TIE Fighter (includes Rebel TIEs)
  • TIE Interceptor No slow K-Turns
  • TIE Phantom Agility too low
  • TIE Punisher Agility too low
  • TIE Striker Agility too low
  • TIE Reaper Agility too low
  • TIE/fo No slow K-Turns
  • TIE/sf No K-Turns!
  • TIE/ba Interceptor No slow K-Turns
  • TIE Silencer No Mod slot
Edited by emeraldbeacon
Edited to correct information
2 hours ago, emeraldbeacon said:

TIE Advanced x1 Ved Foslo only, probably.

Yeah, thats a no. PIE triggers before the maneuver. So by the time Ved can change it, PIE's timing has already past.

They really did seem very careful on what ships could use this :D

21 minutes ago, Lyianx said:

Yeah, thats a no. PIE triggers before the maneuver. So by the time Ved can change it, PIE's timing has already past.

They really did seem very careful on what ships could use this :D

Aha! Good catch... PIE triggers BEFORE you execute a maneuver, while Ved triggers WHILE. A subtle distinction, but it blocks his use! At least, unless we get a counter-ruling from FFG, which is unlikely.