MC80 Bomber Fleet v2 (now with 100% less Yavaris)

By Flyinpenguin117, in Star Wars: Armada Fleet Builds

About 8 months ago I posted my first real list here. Basically a Rebel Bomber fleet built around an MC80 Carrier ( list here ). I've taken it out a couple times, but its been awhile. With the upcoming nerf to Yavaris, I wanted to try redrawing the list to not include it. List follows:

  • MC80 Command Cruiser (106)
    • General Dodonna (20)
    • Flight Commander (3)
    • Fighter Coordination Team (3)
    • Boosted Comms (4)
    • Electronic Countermeasures (7)
  • Total: 143

  • Modified Pelta-Class Command Ship (60)
    • Toryn Farr (7)
    • AFFM (5)
    • Boosted Comms (4)
  • Total: 76

  • GR-75 Medium Transports (18)
    • Wedge Antilles (4)
    • Bomber Command Center (8)
    • Bright Hope (2)
  • Total: 32

  • GR-75 Medium Transports (18)
    • Leia Organa (3)
    • Comms Net (2)
  • Total: 23

  • Squadrons
    • Biggs Darklighter (19)
    • Jan Ors (19)
    • Norra Wexley (17)
    • 2x B-Wing Squadron (28)
    • 3x X-Wing Squadron (26)
  • Total: 122

Fleet total: 396

(bog-standard Squadron objective suite)

Honestly I usually struggled to use Yavaris. Now that I can't B-Wing double-tap, I feel like finnicking around with positioning isn't really worth the hassle, so I rebuilt it around pure speed boosts. I cut the Nebulon in favor of a Pelta, moved over Toryn and added AFFM. Likely as just a discard effect, but banking a token to use it twice is viable. I've gone a bit back-and-forth on Boosted Comms vs Expanded Hangars and/or FCTs. Decided on Boosted Comms- not too keen on FCTs without Flight Commander, EHB is more expensive, and I don't want to just leave the OR slot blank. Toryn wants to stay near the squadrons, but Boosted Comms does give a bit more versatility to activations if I need to keep the Pelta at a distance.

Pushing 4 squadrons with FCTs on the MC80 was one of my favorite parts of the fleet, so I slotted in Flight Commander to more directly take advantage of the speed boost. Combined with AFFM I got fake-speed 5 squadrons (even speed 5 B-Wings with Wedge, which is terrifying).

Squadron comp mostly remains the same, but I ended up cutting Luke down to a generic X-Wing to clear the points for Flight Commander and the Pelta. Despite the Intel nerf, Jan synergizes well with Biggs so I kept her around. I've thought about cutting B-Wings in favor of Y-Wings- cheaper, and again, no Yavaris double-tap- but there's enough speed boosts to get them in the fight, and with the Intel nerf, my Bombers are gonna have to fight their way to the target.

This list doesn't seem to have much ship killing power.

I am a newer player so take what I say with a grain of salt ;)

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Edited by Flyinpenguin117

IMO, for a LFC you can shift the balance of squadrons a little bit more towards more bombing capability. Consider trading an X-wing for another B-wing. That said, Norra does help amp-up the X-wings enough that maybe it doesn't matter.

Otherwise, I like the overall suite of supporting officers and upgrades. IMO, Torryn Farr should command whichever ship takes on the role of the vanguard in your play style. For me, that's the MC80 and not the Pelta. So I would move Boosted Comms off the MC80 and put it on either the BCC transport or the Pelta.

Dodonna remains a good CO with all of those bomber attacks, and he synergizes nicely with Precision Strike. But I think that Agate might be better for the fleet composition overall when the MC80 is in the thick of things. I swap out (Dodonna + ECM) for (Agate + LTT) on my MC80C. There's a good case to be made for leading shots instead of the LTT, but the LTT offers up some better flak opportunities, too.

On 12/6/2020 at 1:15 PM, jbrandmeyer said:

IMO, for a LFC you can shift the balance of squadrons a little bit more towards more bombing capability. Consider trading an X-wing for another B-wing. That said, Norra does help amp-up the X-wings enough that maybe it doesn't matter.

Otherwise, I like the overall suite of supporting officers and upgrades. IMO, Torryn Farr should command whichever ship takes on the role of the vanguard in your play style. For me, that's the MC80 and not the Pelta. So I would move Boosted Comms off the MC80 and put it on either the BCC transport or the Pelta.

Dodonna remains a good CO with all of those bomber attacks, and he synergizes nicely with Precision Strike. But I think that Agate might be better for the fleet composition overall when the MC80 is in the thick of things. I swap out (Dodonna + ECM) for (Agate + LTT) on my MC80C. There's a good case to be made for leading shots instead of the LTT, but the LTT offers up some better flak opportunities, too.

I've gone a bit back-and-forth on the squadron roster. Moving Toryn off the MC80 was one of the main changes in the new fleet so I could use FCT with Flight Commander and get my 4 of my squadrons moving speed 3/4+1 in one activation. If I can't do that, I'm not too confident in loading up on B-Wings, and I'd rather find space for Luke again.

I mentioned this too, but with the Intel nerf I prefer having a decent amount of X-Wings that can clear a path faster than the B-Wings can with their extra die. Norra makes 3/8 sides on their bomber die deal 2 damage, but 3/8 sides still miss and BCC only does so much. With Biggs I feel like I should have at least 3 other Escorts so its harder to chew through the escort blob. Once again this is where I feel like Luke adds more, being both a capable black-die bomber, strong against squadrons, and Biggs and Jan help keep him alive (since he's bound to be a target).

I've considered Agate as a Commander. The reason I picked an MC80 was because early versions of this fleet usually ended up with an Onager or Gladiator trashing my lighter carriers before they could do anything (granted this was before I got a Starhawk). So I guess I can swap in for her. I'd prefer LTTs for the super flak shot, most of the damage should be coming from squadrons so whiffing the occasional broadside shouldn't hurt too much (though I did like the idea of having Toryn also help the MC80)

Anyways, never hurts to have alternate lists, so:

  • MC80 Command Cruiser (106)
    • Kyrsta Agate (20)
    • Toryn Farr (7)
    • Fighter Coordination Team (3)
    • Linked Turbolaser Towers (7)
  • Total: 143

  • Modified Pelta-Class Command Ship (60)
    • Flight Commander (3)
    • Fighter Coordination Team (3)
    • AFFM (5)
  • Total: 71

  • GR-75 Medium Transports (18)
    • Wedge Antilles (4)
    • Bomber Command Center (8)
    • Bright Hope (2)
  • Total: 32

  • GR-75 Medium Transports (18)
    • Leia Organa (3)
    • Comms Net (2)
  • Total: 23

  • Squadrons
    • Biggs Darklighter (19)
    • Jan Ors (19)
    • Norra Wexley (17)
    • Luke Skywalker (20)
    • 2x B-Wing Squadron (28)
    • 2x X-Wing Squadron (26)
  • Total: 129

Fleet total: 398