22 minutes ago, Tramp Graphics said:

Kathracite produces a training saber blade. Thus, the “Training Emitter” is a Kathracite crystal.

This is incorrect. The Wookiepidia page is incomplete. Rise of the Separatist states it has an "ultra-low-output power generator and either a kathracite or danite crystal. They produce a massless blade like that of a full-power lightsaber, but it causes, no lasting damage to opponents. This hardwired, low-powered setting allows Initiates to practice their lightsaber forms, without the risk of dismembering their instructors, sparring partners, or selves." -Training Saber pg. 55

It is possible that power level, not the crystal may be the deciding factor.

1 hour ago, Lord Dust said:

It is possible that power level, not the crystal may be the deciding factor.

Imo, with a full power emitter, those crystals'll have the same damage stats but no stun quality replaced by Pierce 2. And still not Breach. There's a reason why it's specifically Kathracite and Danite crystals that are utilised for building training lightsaber. And for it's because they are a, by their very nature, a lot less lethal than Kyber crystals. Using a low power emitter is just to make sure that the training lightsabers won't be able to seriously wound young jedi wannabe.

4 hours ago, Lord Dust said:

This is incorrect. The Wookiepidia page is incomplete. Rise of the Separatist states it has an "ultra-low-output power generator and either a kathracite or danite crystal. They produce a massless blade like that of a full-power lightsaber, but it causes, no lasting damage to opponents. This hardwired, low-powered setting allows Initiates to practice their lightsaber forms, without the risk of dismembering their instructors, sparring partners, or selves." -Training Saber pg. 55

It is possible that power level, not the crystal may be the deciding factor.

3 hours ago, WolfRider said:

Imo, with a full power emitter, those crystals'll have the same damage stats but no stun quality replaced by Pierce 2. And still not Breach. There's a reason why it's specifically Kathracite and Danite crystals that are utilised for building training lightsaber. And for it's because they are a, by their very nature, a lot less lethal than Kyber crystals. Using a low power emitter is just to make sure that the training lightsabers won't be able to seriously wound young jedi wannabe.

@WolfRider is correct here. The rules themselves are clear. The training emitter, by RAW, is a lightsaber crystal attachment. It is not two separate attachments —a crystal and power supply. It is one attachment, a crystal . And it is that crystal which makes the blade non-lethal. Thus, it is the Kathracite that creates the training saber blade, since it is Kathracite (or sometimes Danite) which is used as the crystal in training sabers. Remember, you can take the crystal from any normal lightsaber and put a training emitter into that slot and it becomes a training saber without changing the power supply of your saber. You can put a training emitter into a Cyclic Crystal Array attachment along with a standard crystal (such as an Ilum crystal or Mephite crystal) and allow you to switch from normal mode to “training” mode, no change to the power supply required . Therefore, by RAW, it is only the crystal which determines the lethality of the weapon. Since Kathracite is the primary crystal used for training sabers, this means that it has the exact same stats as the “training emitter”, and, in fact is the training emitter.

I guess I am not sure why you answered. You don't like the idea. Cool I get it.

@Mattheau Hope all goes well. let us know later. Good day.

It is going well, I am actually thinking of using them more as a short term idea, before they find a more better source of crystals, I am going to play around with it bit more. Sorry if I was short earlier, I am tired as heck today. I started working out again and my out of shape self is feeling it.

No problem.

If anyone is an editor for wookiepedia, Kathracite appears in FoD core under under training lightsaber. I don't know how.

3 hours ago, Lord Dust said:

No problem.

If anyone is an editor for wookiepedia, Kathracite appears in FoD core under under training lightsaber. I don't know how.

The really weird thing here is that the sole source for special training crystals called Kathracite even existing, in both the old and the new canons, is RPG supplements.

2 hours ago, micheldebruyn said:

The really weird thing here is that the sole source for special training crystals called Kathracite even existing, in both the old and the new canons, is RPG supplements.

*shrug* Ah well, you do what you've got to do, I guess. RPGs in many ways need more depth and detail than the movies.

3 hours ago, micheldebruyn said:

The really weird thing here is that the sole source for special training crystals called Kathracite even existing, in both the old and the new canons, is RPG supplements.

True, and in all honestly the only places where the source of a lightsaber crystal has any impact beyond pure cosmetics have been the RPGs and video games, in particular the KOTOR duo (which makes sense as those games were based of the 3e iteration of the d20 system, which at the time was very reliant upon magic items for non-magic-using characters to be viable at later levels). I haven't played nearly enough of SWTOR to know if lightsaber crystals have any non-cosmetic effects in that game, and I know that crystals were purely cosmetic in both The Force Unleashed and Jedi: Fallen Order.

WotC itself really only dabbled with the notion of lightsaber crystals having different effects, and that was for Saga Edition in the KOTOR campaign guide and the Jedi Academy Training Manual; every where else a lightsaber crystal was a lightsaber crystal was a lightsaber crystal, and they all just gave a +1 bonus to hit so long as the wielder was the one to have crafted that particular lightsaber.

I think Katharicite itself only previously got a mention in the Tales of the Jedi companion for the WEG system, and that was merely as a relatively weak member of the Adegan family of lightsaber crystals.

Though as far as Wookieepedia goes, it's best to take most of the articles there with a grain of salt. There's been several instances where the lead editors have refused to let pages be updated with more current/accurate information. One instance was the actual size of the HWK-290, which was far smaller than WotC stat blocks posited the ship to be, and I think there was even issues over the size of the Executor after Gary M. Sarli in his position as author of the Jedi Counseling articles gave the Lucasfilm-approved definitive size of the vessel. I'm sure there are plenty of other instances (as is the nature of any collection of data that anybody with an account can edit), but those are the ones that stick out to me.

1 hour ago, Donovan Morningfire said:

I haven't played nearly enough of SWTOR to know if lightsaber crystals have any non-cosmetic effects in that game

I've played a lot of SWTOR from 2013 to 2018 levelling 12 characters, one or two for each class. The 2nd for a class only when I wanted a character for each of the two specialisation for a class. Crystals are used for all weapons be it lightsabers or blasters or vibroknife or swords or anything else. And it's the crystal that gives its stats to the weapon since at max level everybody use orange quality weapons and armours. Almost each craft able crystals comes in 3 tiers : green, blue and purple, the last being the highest tier and is usually not buy able with credits.