On 8/1/2020 at 1:26 AM, theBitterFig said:

Could always switch Lando to Leia... That'd free up 6 points... R5 on Luke, Predator on Wedge?

Jup, I definitely will play around with it, too.

I remember Lando being crucial because of his 'coordinate' ability!

Giving Wegde the second mod on attack really hurts (everything Wedge shoots at). Or coordinating a boost (or barrel-roll) that the X-Wings can link into focus. Or coordinating a blocked ship

Basically: the thing your opponent goes after has double mods, or an unexpected reposition.

After this July 2020 points update, I think I have your unequivocal answer:

ANYTHING .

How about this Princess & The Beasts?

Leia & Wookies

(77) Leia Organa [Modified YT-1300 Light Freighter]
(2) Jyn Erso
(12) Kanan Jarrus
(7) Veteran Turret Gunner
Points: 98

(42) Kashyyyk Defender [Auzituck Gunship]
(8) Perceptive Copilot
Points: 50

(42) Kashyyyk Defender [Auzituck Gunship]
(8) Perceptive Copilot
Points: 50

Total points: 198

I have been playing this: Leia Organa (Kanan Jarrus, Agile Gunner), Ten Numb (B-Foils), Braylen Stram. So far 3:1 with it and I have to say, the list has potential. Thanks to Leia and Kanan the dials are very open on the B-Wings, something I was struggling with on Braylen especially. Agile Gunner adds some neat action economy and again, opens up the dial somewhat.

Yeah, I think 2 Wookies couldn't be as good as named Bs, or something like 3B or 3X for lower generics.

I like this list, but as a caveat, Rebels are my second least played faction behind the Resistance. I like it as there are few upgrades to remember, the pilot abilities are straight forward and easy. The few times I have run it, Lando and Han have had double mods virtually every round.

It’s MY Falcon...

(79) Han Solo [Modified YT-1300 Light Freighter]
Points: 79

(78) Lando Calrissian [Modified YT-1300 Light Freighter]
(5) Nien Nunb
Points: 83

(36) Jake Farrell [RZ-1 A-wing]
Points: 36

Total points: 198

Liking the Falcon plus two B-Wings approach (since I happen to have those models). I modified that idea from here to bring it into current Hyperspace compliance. Thoughts?

A/SF-01 B-wing - •Braylen Stramm - 59
•Braylen Stramm - Blade Leader (52)
Fire-Control System (2)
Autoblasters (3)
Stabilized S-foils (Open) (2)

A/SF-01 B-wing - •Ten Numb - 55
•Ten Numb - Blue Five (48)
Fire-Control System (2)
Autoblasters (3)
Stabilized S-foils (Open) (2)

Modified YT-1300 Light Freighter - •Lando Calrissian - 86
•Lando Calrissian - General of the Alliance (78)
•Nien Nunb (5)
• Millennium Falcon (3)

Total: 200/200

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33 minutes ago, Spinland said:

Liking the Falcon plus two B-Wings approach (since I happen to have those models). I modified that idea from here to bring it into current Hyperspace compliance. Thoughts?

A/SF-01 B-wing - •Braylen Stramm - 59
•Braylen Stramm - Blade Leader (52)
Fire-Control System (2)
Autoblasters (3)
Stabilized S-foils (Open) (2)

A/SF-01 B-wing - •Ten Numb - 55
•Ten Numb - Blue Five (48)
Fire-Control System (2)
Autoblasters (3)
Stabilized S-foils (Open) (2)

Modified YT-1300 Light Freighter - •Lando Calrissian - 86
•Lando Calrissian - General of the Alliance (78)
•Nien Nunb (5)
• Millennium Falcon (3)

Total: 200/200

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Drop FCS from Braylen, it's worthless there. He gets to reroll from Stress. Which you can either get from Red Lock or Red Roll linked actions. Either 2 points of Bid or ditch the Title for something more useful. If the enemy focuses Lando, they are dead because the B-Wings will rip them apart. If they do focus Lando, you are better of using the Additional Action from his ability to Boost IMHO. Getting into Range 3 and/or dodging Arcs will be a much better option. Could run with 5 point bid or just slap Lando with Agile Gunner.

40 minutes ago, Schanez said:

Drop FCS from Braylen, it's worthless there. He gets to reroll from Stress. Which you can either get from Red Lock or Red Roll linked actions.

D'oh! Great catch, thanks!

I like where you're going with this, and the tactics tips are quite useful. 😎 🍺

On 8/31/2020 at 7:09 AM, Schanez said:

Drop FCS from Braylen, it's worthless there. He gets to reroll from Stress. Which you can either get from Red Lock or Red Roll linked actions. Either 2 points of Bid or ditch the Title for something more useful. If the enemy focuses Lando, they are dead because the B-Wings will rip them apart. If they do focus Lando, you are better of using the Additional Action from his ability to Boost IMHO. Getting into Range 3 and/or dodging Arcs will be a much better option. Could run with 5 point bid or just slap Lando with Agile Gunner.

I was playing this exact list before the points update with Marksmanship on both B-Wings (cheap and good with Autoblasters) and the rest as a bid. Now that Lando is one point cheaper, I really like this version:

Lando Calrissian + Nien Nunb (83)
Luke Skywalker + S-Foils (62)
Ten Numb + S-Foils + Autoblasters + FCS (55)
Total: 200

One frustration I had with Lando + Braylen + Ten is that Braylen has a lot of trouble turning around because he can't shed stress like Ten. This version feels a lot more maneuverable and has been fun to fly. Luke doesn't have the raw firepower of a double-tapping B-Wing but I think the time on target makes up for it, and he's significantly tankier and even a bit of an ace with Lando letting him reposition before or after his maneuver.

15 hours ago, Gausebeck said:

I was playing this exact list before the points update with Marksmanship on both B-Wings (cheap and good with Autoblasters) and the rest as a bid. Now that Lando is one point cheaper, I really like this version:

Lando Calrissian + Nien Nunb (83)
Luke Skywalker + S-Foils (62)
Ten Numb + S-Foils + Autoblasters + FCS (55)
Total: 200

One frustration I had with Lando + Braylen + Ten is that Braylen has a lot of trouble turning around because he can't shed stress like Ten. This version feels a lot more maneuverable and has been fun to fly. Luke doesn't have the raw firepower of a double-tapping B-Wing but I think the time on target makes up for it, and he's significantly tankier and even a bit of an ace with Lando letting him reposition before or after his maneuver.

The Braylen-Keeping-Stress problem is what made me love Kanan Jarrus becoming Hyperspace legal. I fly Leia with Kanan and Agile Gunner, Ten with foils and Braylen. You can swap Gunner for FCS and Autoblasters on Ten Numb, which could be amazing. Although I am being told by more advanced and experienced players to slap each B-Wing with Hull Upgrade instead.

So this is the revised list I came up with based on input thus far.

Lando Calrissian (78)
Nien Nunb (5)
Millennium Falcon (3)

Braylen Stramm (52)
Marksmanship (1)
Autoblasters (3)
Stabilized S-Foils (2)

Ten Numb (48)
Marksmanship (1)
Fire-Control System (2)
Autoblasters (3)
Stabilized S-Foils (2)
Total: 200

I like the idea of replacing one of the Bs with Luke, too. Should be fun!

Here would be one possibility for the Luke & Lando version:

What about flying Thane with snap shot instead of Luke:

REB HS 3

(48) Thane Kyrell [T-65 X-wing]
(0) Servomotor S-foils
(7) Snap Shot
Points: 55

(78) Lando Calrissian [Modified YT-1300 Light Freighter]
(5) Nien Nunb
(5) Agile Gunner
Points: 88

(48) Ten Numb [A/SF-01 B-wing]
(3) Autoblasters
(2) Stabilized S-Foils
(2) Fire-Control System
(1) Marksmanship
Points: 56

Total points: 199

5 hours ago, Ninotik said:

What about flying Thane with snap shot instead of Luke:

REB HS 3

(48) Thane Kyrell [T-65 X-wing]
(0) Servomotor S-foils
(7) Snap Shot
Points: 55

(78) Lando Calrissian [Modified YT-1300 Light Freighter]
(5) Nien Nunb
(5) Agile Gunner
Points: 88

(48) Ten Numb [A/SF-01 B-wing]
(3) Autoblasters
(2) Stabilized S-Foils
(2) Fire-Control System
(1) Marksmanship
Points: 56

Total points: 199

If only Thane could spend Snap results for his pilot ability... It would be an amazing combo. But that looks solid. I would swap double Agile Gunner and Marksmanship for Luke in X-Wing. Double mods on each shot, and Ten can still double tap.

2 hours ago, Schanez said:

If only Thane could spend Snap results for his pilot ability... It would be an amazing combo. But that looks solid. I would swap double Agile Gunner and Marksmanship for Luke in X-Wing. Double mods on each shot, and Ten can still double tap.

Why Thane can't use his ability with SS?

https://xwing-miniatures-second-edition.fandom.com/wiki/Snap_Shot?file=Swz47_upgrade-snap-shot.png

https://xwing-miniatures-second-edition.fandom.com/wiki/Thane_Kyrell?file=Swz12_card_thane-kyrell.png

Because Thane spends a result for his ability, and spending a result is a dice modification, which you can’t do when performing Snapshot attack.

I mean, imagine Thane with Deadeye Shot. You throw your dice at this Evading Range 3 "Duchess" and drop a Crit and two blanks... Turn Crit to Hit to expose one card, then spend Hit to expose another. No need to roll for Defence... Funny combo tbh.

18 hours ago, missileaway said:

https://xwing-miniatures-second-edition.fandom.com/wiki/Snap_Shot?file=Swz47_upgrade-snap-shot.png

https://xwing-miniatures-second-edition.fandom.com/wiki/Thane_Kyrell?file=Swz12_card_thane-kyrell.png

Because Thane spends a result for his ability, and spending a result is a dice modification, which you can’t do when performing Snapshot attack.

I see... thank you very much...

Maybe:

REB HS 3''

(76) Kanan Jarrus [VCX-100 Light Freighter]
(2) Hull Upgrade
(2) Fire-Control System
Points: 80

(77) Leia Organa [Modified YT-1300 Light Freighter]
(5) Agile Gunner
Points: 82

(34) Arvel Crynyd [RZ-1 A-wing]
(3) Intimidation
Points: 37

Total points: 199

42 minutes ago, Ninotik said:

Maybe:

REB HS 3''

(76) Kanan Jarrus [VCX-100 Light Freighter]
(2) Hull Upgrade
(2) Fire-Control System
Points: 80

(77) Leia Organa [Modified YT-1300 Light Freighter]
(5) Agile Gunner
Points: 82

(34) Arvel Crynyd [RZ-1 A-wing]
(3) Intimidation
Points: 37

Total points: 199

I do not see what Kanan is trying to accomplish in this list. Sure he can spend Force to cripple the enemy fire power. But like... Ehh... I'd rather have the I4 Kallus in his place.

• Leia Organa: Kanan Jarrus
• Alexsandr Kallus: "Zeb" Orrelios, Intimidation, Hull Upgrade
• Arvel Crynyd: Intimidation

You have a big bully to ram down the middle, agile A-Wing to plug in any flanking maneuvers they might attempt and Leia to clean up the garbage off the table. You could move Kanan to Kallus to have a Force Charge on both the YT and the VCX.

Time to revisit this thread! I'm itching to play this shenanigan:

YT 1300 Lando and X-wings

(78) Lando Calrissian [Modified YT-1300 Light Freighter]
(5) Nien Nunb
(6) Hondo Ohnaka
(7) Veteran Turret Gunner
(2) XX-23 S-Thread Tracers
Points: 98

(38) Blue Squadron Escort [T-65 X-wing]
(0) Servomotor S-foils
(12) Proton Torpedoes
Points: 50

(38) Blue Squadron Escort [T-65 X-wing]
(0) Servomotor S-foils
(12) Proton Torpedoes
Points: 50

Total points: 198

Lots of ways to give the Xwings locks / double mods. Hondo should be fun!

Now this combo fits, I’ll be flying it a lot!

Lando Calrissian - K2SO, Nien Numb

Braylen Stramm - Marksmanship, HU

Ten Numb - Marksmanship, Passive Sensors, HU

Total: 200

Not sure if Passive Sensors or FCS on Ten is better??

11 hours ago, Sm00thB0r3 said:

Now this combo fits, I’ll be flying it a lot!

Lando Calrissian - K2SO, Nien Numb

Braylen Stramm - Marksmanship, HU

Ten Numb - Marksmanship, Passive Sensors, HU

Total: 200

Not sure if Passive Sensors or FCS on Ten is better??

FCS, because he can get a Lock from Lando. You can engage with a Focus and Stress and then move to Roll > Red Lock.

I would also swap K-2S0 for Leia. It doesn't accomplish anything in this list and opens up Braylen's dial when he is stressed in those crucial turns when you want to spin around.

(78) Lando Calrissian [Modified YT-1300 Light Freighter]

(7) Leia Organa

(5) Nien Nunb

Points: 90

(48) Ten Numb [A/SF-01 B-wing]

(2) Stabilized S-foils

(3) Hull Upgrade

(2) Fire-Control System

Points: 55

(52) Braylen Stramm [A/SF-01 B-wing]

(3) Hull Upgrade

Points: 55

Total points: 200

Edit:

I figured a clarification is in order. Each ship in the list is capable of giving themselves double mods. Which makes K-2S0 a bit redundant. It has a place on Lando for sure, as he will most likely do a Blue either way. But with no means of removing Stress from Braylen, I think Leia gives you more time on target with her ability to make red turn arounds white for a turn.

Luke/Leia/Thane just got a few more spare points...

• Luke (R2-D2) 69
• Leia (Engine Upgrade) 84 - I love Falcon mobility.
• Thane (S-Foils only) 47 - could go for R4 here, if Luke was OK with a regular R2 Astro, or Predator.

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Can also Luke/Leia + 2x Starbird Phoenix A-Wings. Probably Millennium Falcon on Leia, but could go Agile Gunner. At 4 points, seems like a great play on most large-base Turrets.