On 5/30/2020 at 6:09 PM, PodRacer said:

Gnip (0)

Forty (1) Ninja

Jabba (0)

Ovi (0) Jabba

Mad(1) Bertie

Bertie (3) Mad, LP, Ovi

11 minutes ago, Bertie Wooster said:

Okay. There could be another double voter, so it's time to claim. I'm the town tracker, but both my tracks have been unsuccessful (I'm assuming roleblocker is the culprit).

Who did you visit each night?

4 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Who did you visit each night?

Gink, then Mads.

Ugh. That would make some sense, assuming we have a roleblocker. They might have blocked you N1 and took the no kill as a sign they got the right target.

##unvote while I consider

1 minute ago, Madaghmire said:

Ugh. That would make some sense, assuming we have a roleblocker. They might have blocked you N1 and took the no kill as a sign they got the right target.

##unvote while I consider

Why would scum think this?

##vote Mad

for now.

##vote Mad

for now.

*Sigh* double post.

I'm voting Mad 'cause of the thing I quoted above, his absences, and because I am not yet willing to vote Bertie.

5 minutes ago, Madaghmire said:

Ugh. That would make some sense, assuming we have a roleblocker. They might have blocked you N1 and took the no kill as a sign they got the right target.

##unvote while I consider

Well see, I was wondering why RB scum didn't switch targets.

If they RB'd me, tried to kill someone N1, and no one died, then they obviously didn't RB the doc. Which led me to doubt that the lack of night kill on N1 was actually due to doc protection.

At this point:

GNIPs and Ovi affirm the existence of the sticky fruit, so I’m not inclined to vote them.

Bertie has his tracker claim, so I’m not inclined to vote him just yet.

##unvote

##vote @FortyInRed

Still not doing much. Feels like trying to fly under the radar to me, after drawing suspicion.

10 minutes ago, GhostofNobodyInParticular said:

Why would scum think this?

Scum wouldnt, im looking at it as a town rb

21 minutes ago, Bertie Wooster said:

Well see, I was wondering why RB scum didn't switch targets.

If they RB'd me, tried to kill someone N1, and no one died, then they obviously didn't RB the doc. Which led me to doubt that the lack of night kill on N1 was actually due to doc protection.

15 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

At this point:

GNIPs and Ovi affirm the existence of the sticky fruit, so I’m not inclined to vote them.

Bertie has his tracker claim, so I’m not inclined to vote him just yet.

##unvote

##vote @FortyInRed

Still not doing much. Feels like trying to fly under the radar to me, after drawing suspicion.

Will anyone stand up and claim the doc role? It's not me.

@The Jabbawookie you've played with me long enough to know roughly what time zone I'm in. You've also played with me long enough to know I have kids. I'll fill in the gap that I mostly only get to do things like this at night, and recently I've been working both nights and weekends. That's mostly to blame for me being quiet.

That and me really not being sure.

I'm going to go ahead and ##vote Bertie for now. If a doc shows up I'll unvote. If I'm convinced otherwise I'll unvote. But I can see the point that the argument Bertie is making is the same argument that scum would make in this setting.

12 minutes ago, Bertie Wooster said:

Gink, then Mads.

Very interesting.

##unvote Bertie

Ok, so here’s the thing. My sticky fruit has some special powers that makes some things mutually exclusive and I didn’t get an answer for Pod (my bet is he screwed it, ;P).

I gave my fruit to Gink but it ended on Ghost hands which is just impossible considering the info I have about its effects.

Bertie tracked Gink and get nothing which makes perfect sense considering the info I have about my sticky piece of fruit.

Ghost knows about the fruit and there are only two ways for him to know. Option 1: he got it from me somehow I cannot explain. Option 2: he got it from Gink.

I cannot explain option 1. Also, if true, then Gink didn’t get my fruit, therefore Bertie should get a result and if he didn’t, it means there is a role blocker AND bus driver (?). Which is not only too much but also doesn’t explain why Ghost got my sticky fruit.

Option 2 is the only one I can explain mechanically but makes Not much sense, or does it? Let’s say Ghost is scum and he got the sticky fruit on N2 from Gink. He used the info of the fruit going around to what? First of all, he keeps the fruit and he has to give it away n3 so it will be discover he didn’t give it to Gink unless he and a needed scum mate give the fruit to each other each night since now. It makes sense to cover himself against a tracker while they keep the fruit out of circulation so we might consider it gone. If this is true, Bertie‘s lack of result on n2 could be explained with a roleblocker.

2 minutes ago, FortyInRed said:

Will anyone stand up and claim the doc role? It's not me.

@The Jabbawookie you've played with me long enough to know roughly what time zone I'm in. You've also played with me long enough to know I have kids. I'll fill in the gap that I mostly only get to do things like this at night, and recently I've been working both nights and weekends. That's mostly to blame for me being quiet.

That and me really not being sure.

I'm going to go ahead and ##vote Bertie for now. If a doc shows up I'll unvote. If I'm convinced otherwise I'll unvote. But I can see the point that the argument Bertie is making is the same argument that scum would make in this setting.

##unvote

##vote FortyInRed

The above is known as "role-fishing."

9 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

Very interesting.

##unvote Bertie

Ok, so here’s the thing. My sticky fruit has some special powers that makes some things mutually exclusive and I didn’t get an answer for Pod (my bet is he screwed it, ;P).

I gave my fruit to Gink but it ended on Ghost hands which is just impossible considering the info I have about its effects.

Bertie tracked Gink and get nothing which makes perfect sense considering the info I have about my sticky piece of fruit.

Ghost knows about the fruit and there are only two ways for him to know. Option 1: he got it from me somehow I cannot explain. Option 2: he got it from Gink.

I cannot explain option 1. Also, if true, then Gink didn’t get my fruit, therefore Bertie should get a result and if he didn’t, it means there is a role blocker AND bus driver (?). Which is not only too much but also doesn’t explain why Ghost got my sticky fruit.

Option 2 is the only one I can explain mechanically but makes Not much sense, or does it? Let’s say Ghost is scum and he got the sticky fruit on N2 from Gink. He used the info of the fruit going around to what? First of all, he keeps the fruit and he has to give it away n3 so it will be discover he didn’t give it to Gink unless he and a needed scum mate give the fruit to each other each night since now. It makes sense to cover himself against a tracker while they keep the fruit out of circulation so we might consider it gone. If this is true, Bertie‘s lack of result on n2 could be explained with a roleblocker.

You know this actually makes a good deal of sense.

##unvote

##vote GNIP

5 minutes ago, Bertie Wooster said:

##unvote

##vote FortyInRed

The above is known as "role-fishing."

Bertie, and is this a principle vote?

I take it what I did was bad?

1 minute ago, FortyInRed said:

##unvote

##vote GNIP

As I understand it, Ovi has corroborated him because GNIP mentioned the fruit first.

This makes both unlikely scum candidates.

Gnip (1) Forty

Forty (3) Ninja, Jabba, Bertie

Jabba (0)

Ovi (0)

Mad(1) GNip

Bertie (1) LP

16 minutes ago, FortyInRed said:

Will anyone stand up and claim the doc role? It's not me.

@The Jabbawookie you've played with me long enough to know roughly what time zone I'm in. You've also played with me long enough to know I have kids. I'll fill in the gap that I mostly only get to do things like this at night, and recently I've been working both nights and weekends. That's mostly to blame for me being quiet.

That and me really not being sure.

I'm going to go ahead and ##vote Bertie for now. If a doc shows up I'll unvote. If I'm convinced otherwise I'll unvote. But I can see the point that the argument Bertie is making is the same argument that scum would make in this setting.

At the time I’d voted, you visited half an hour ago and said nothing.

I’m sorry if IRL is inconvenient to catch up with the game, but you have had more opportunity to talk than you have used; the forum shows it.

Also, this is the role-fishiest of role-fishing. Like, could be screenshotted for a wiki article.

8 minutes ago, FortyInRed said:

You know this actually makes a good deal of sense.

##unvote

##vote GNIP

Bertie, and is this a principle vote?

I take it what I did was bad?

If there's a doc out there, he should stay hidden. Otherwise scum will kill the doc if they know who it is. So asking for the doc to reveal himself is very bad.

Ninja'd by Jabba again!

4 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

As I understand it, Ovi has corroborated him because GNIP mentioned the fruit first.

This makes both unlikely scum candidates.

I might corroborate there is a piece of fruit going around. How Ghost knows about it, I dunno. Actually Bertie’s claim support the idea of the fruit going where it was supposed to go: Gink.

In order to both claims to be true...

a) there is a bus driver who swapped Gink and Ghost during n1

b) there is a roleblocker who blocked Bertie during n2

c) my fruit doesn’t work as my PM says and Pod just trolled me.

Just now, ovinomanc3r said:

I might corroborate there is a piece of fruit going around. How Ghost knows about it, I dunno. Actually Bertie’s claim support the idea of the fruit going where it was supposed to go: Gink.

In order to both claims to be true...

a) there is a bus driver who swapped Gink and Ghost during n1

b) there is a roleblocker who blocked Bertie during n2

c) my fruit doesn’t work as my PM says and Pod just trolled me.

In case it is not clear, a,b and c must be true in order to both claim to be true.

13 minutes ago, ovinomanc3r said:

In case it is not clear, a,b and c must be true in order to both claim to be true.

If we have a blocker (at least, a town blocker) and no night kill than I think we’d know it. Blocker generally shouldn’t risk taking knowledge of who he blocked to the grave in such a case.

Enough of your two stories check out for me to believe them, is my point.

Your clarification that there’s still a discrepancy is important, but neither of you are high on my suspect list right now.

##unvote

##vote @Bertie Wooster

Your claim can easily be faked, since it has nothing to report, and according to ovi it contradicts me, yet I know that what I am saying happened.

16 minutes ago, The Jabbawookie said:

If we have a blocker (at least, a town blocker) and no night kill than I think we’d know it. Blocker generally shouldn’t risk taking knowledge of who he blocked to the grave in such a case.

Enough of your two stories check out for me to believe them, is my point.

Your clarification that there’s still a discrepancy is important, but neither of you are high on my suspect list right now.

I’d really like to take them from town but, man, I don’t know how Ggost got my fruit! @PodRacer!!!