I'm not a big HP fan either, but the flaw is in Rowling's writing and world building, not the premise of a cool magic academy.

On 5/12/2020 at 11:29 PM, Sturn said:

Continuation of the story begun in Solo

This is something I would be into. I saw today that some fans are hash tagging something about a Solo sequel. I really liked Solo. Felt like an 80's matinee movie or something. Not life changing but just good fun. I guess it would be fine as a cartoon too...

13 hours ago, Harlock999 said:

On 5/13/2020 at 9:40 PM, DanteRotterdam said:

Of course you already couldn’t take the hours out of your day to actually watch the series but don’t let that get in the way of your opinion.

You didn't read my 4th bullet point?

Yeah, I'm sure you are a fun guy that I'd probably like to hang out with, but I still think you can't talk about Rebels until you've actually watched Rebels. Seasons 3 and 4 have some story lines that are just so good. You are missing out. I was really moved by the end of the whole show.

Anyone else a little worried about how many new old characters are going to be in Mando S2? I hope they are mostly cameos... I mean, I like all those rumoured characters but lets not make this Avengers Assemble or something. Stick to the few characters they have now and continue to develop them. I also hope some of it is just flashbacks.

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6 hours ago, DanteRotterdam said:

If you enjoy the company of fragile male altright snowflakes then sure.

That is a lot of presumption and invective. It really is despicable that we can't have disagreements, even acrimonious ones, in the fanbase without hurling baseless accusations.

What makes you think he's altright?
What makes you think he's fragile?
What makes you think he's a snowflake?

Perhaps he is, I don't know, but he hasn't said or done anything to indicate that.

9 hours ago, Mandalore of the Rings said:

Anyone else a little worried about how many new old characters are going to be in Mando S2?

Nah.

For starters, LFL hasn’t confirmed any of these “announcements.” Then, assuming they are accurate, a handful of the characters specified are tied to Clone Wars and Rebels; with Filoni directing a single episode this season, I’m expecting them to all be in his episode. The others would also appear to be tied together, likely to be in a single episode.

11 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:

Nah.

For starters, LFL hasn’t confirmed any of these “announcements.” Then, assuming they are accurate, a handful of the characters specified are tied to Clone Wars and Rebels; with Filoni directing a single episode this season, I’m expecting them to all be in his episode. The others would also appear to be tied together, likely to be in a single episode.

I'm going to hold out hope until the very end that they aren't. I've iterated this elsewhere in-depth, but I want The Mandalorian to truly be a stand-alone show.
I haven't watched or read anything on the subject, so I don't know how credible the rumors are, and I don't want to know. I want to be surprised* (as long as it's a good surprise).

And this is coming from a big Ahsoka/Bo Katan fan, and the dynamic between Mando and Boba Fett would be fascinating for me as a Mando-nerd since Boba almost certainly is Dar'Manda.

*Surprised as in no spoilers going into the show.

17 minutes ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

I'm going to hold out hope until the very end that they aren't. I've iterated this elsewhere in-depth, but I want The Mandalorian to truly be a stand-alone show.
I haven't watched or read anything on the subject, so I don't know how credible the rumors are, and I don't want to know. I want to be surprised* (as long as it's a good surprise).

And this is coming from a big Ahsoka/Bo Katan fan, and the dynamic between Mando and Boba Fett would be fascinating for me as a Mando-nerd since Boba almost certainly is Dar'Manda.

*Surprised as in no spoilers going into the show.

Bo-Katan just makes sense to show up at some point - either in the “present” or flashback - given the season finale’s reveal. And I’m partial to the notion floating around that Olyphant will be Cobb Vanth, with Morrison as Boba only in a small appearance, or (my preference) Rex along with the other CW/Rebels characters.

But, we’ll see if any of these casting stories have any truth to them, or if it’s all just rumor. Either way, the show’s earned enough good will from me to get the benefit of the doubt that what they come up with will be enjoyable. I have a feeling that anything truly spoilery will be kept under wraps. After all, they opted to keep a merchandising gold mine secret until the end of the first episode.

15 minutes ago, Nytwyng said:

Bo-Katan just makes sense to show up at some point - either in the “present” or flashback - given the season finale’s reveal.

Bo Katan flashback, absolutely . Sadly, but also realistically, Bo Katan should have died in the fight against the Empire. Depending on how they do it, I might feel a bit gypped if she were to come back, alive and well, in the "present day."

1 hour ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

Bo Katan flashback, absolutely . Sadly, but also realistically, Bo Katan should have died in the fight against the Empire. Depending on how they do it, I might feel a bit gypped if she were to come back, alive and well, in the "present day."

IF (yeah, it’s emphasized just to reinforce that it’s pure mental exercise...not even really speculation) all of the CW/Rebels characters appear in the same episode, I can see a scenario with, say, Ahsoka and Rex dragging Bo-Katan kicking and screaming from Mandalore during the Empire’s attack, so she’d live to fight another day once it became apparent that the Empire was just going to crush the Mandalorians.

1 hour ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

Bo Katan flashback, absolutely . Sadly, but also realistically, Bo Katan should have died in the fight against the Empire.

Why is this realistically so? Mandalorians have never been portrayed as being opposed to running away to regroup and fight again when the odds are better.

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I'm going to hold out hope until the very end that they aren't. I've iterated this elsewhere in-depth, but I want The Mandalorian to truly be a stand-alone show.

Personally, I can take or leave Bo-Katan (although Katee Sackhoff is always fun to watch), but The Mando's main quest is to look for Jedi. Five years after Return Of The Jedi, that is pretty much just Luke and Ahsoka.

Just now, micheldebruyn said:

Why is this realistically so? Mandalorians have never been portrayed as being opposed to running away to regroup and fight again when the odds are better.

True, but she feels she failed as a ruler the first time, and this is Mandalore they are fighting over. I'm guessing she'd have something of a last stand mentality here.

My statement of "realistically" was not clear. I meant it as in "I'm being realistic" not necessarily "this outcome is realistic."

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7 minutes ago, DanteRotterdam said:

Oh, he has. More than once.

Show me.

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10 minutes ago, DanteRotterdam said:

Not quite sure why I have an obligation to show you anything.

You don't, but if you are going to call someone altright, and you don't back it up with anything, then there is no reason anyone should even consider it for half a second. I especially have no patience for it since I know you have hurled similar accusations in the past, baselessly. Pardon me if I don't give you the benefit of the doubt.

I hope others share this skepticism, and my lack of patience for slanderous name-calling.

A large part of what really, really sets me off about this is that terms like racist, Nazi, altright, etc. have meaning . Legitimate meaning and serious implications. Using those names, baselessly, against someone you disagree with cheapens the terms and robs them of that meaning, aside from the slanderous nature of it.

Maybe he is as despicable as you claim he is, but I will not accept, and I hope no one else accepts, such accusations without evidence.

Some times I find all this back and forth kind of depressing. Other times I find it entertaining. I think I'll go with entertaining today and enjoy all the drama!

Anyway, back to the actual Star Wars stuff,

9 hours ago, micheldebruyn said:

that is pretty much just Luke and Ahsoka.

umm, I think there are a few other "Jedi" floating around... At least Ezra should be included... must be some others also, right?

12 hours ago, Nytwyng said:

Bo-Katan just makes sense to show up at some point - either in the “present” or flashback

Yeah, flashbacks are your friend. I'd like most of the cameos (if they really even happen) to be side stories.

12 hours ago, Nytwyng said:

the show’s earned enough good will from me to get the benefit of the doubt that what they come up with will be enjoyable.

Absolutely! Loved S1 and cautiously looking forward to S2...

12 hours ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

I want to be surprised

Me too. And I truly was in S1 so I have faith they'll keep the fun under wraps. I vaguely remember hearing something about Yoda himself in S1 but either forgot it or didn't believe it and it turned out to not actually be Yoda anyway, so I was sufficiently surprised at the end of E1.

I'm not near as excited for the Cassian Andor show which is kinda cool because maybe it will really surprise me and be great! No great expectations weighing it down. I'm hoping it's got lots of Imperial Assault like shenanigans (big fan of that game) which is pretty much what Rogue One was to me... mission after mission joined into one cool campaign.

22 hours ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

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6 hours ago, Mandalore of the Rings said:

umm, I think there are a few other "Jedi" floating around... At least Ezra should be included... must be some others also, right?

Well, Ezra should be way harder to find than any of the others. And finding Ezra practically means bringing in Thrawn as well. And in canon, yes, it's just those three.

The problem with tying up so many lose ends is that it takes a lot of mystery out of the universe. I like not knowing where Ezra and Thrawn went. For me it is more interesting that way.

On an unrelated note, I was really pleased that the Mandalorian brought in all these new characters and elements and dis not fall into the “everyone meets everyone else we already know”-pitfall in S1. In fact the worst episode, in my opinion, was the one were they did go to established locales on Tatooine.

Now the rumors for S2 are pointing a bit too much to another show in the Filloniverse...

6 hours ago, DanteRotterdam said:

But if you are unconvinced by his adding of racial elements to the already inherent sexist “Mary Sue” term

Mary Sue isn't an inherently sexist term, and he is analyzing stuff other people have put out. When pressed on the issue, he said "'Requirement?' No. But a fairly common staple of Mary Sue works these days, absolutely yes." Saying (a summary of my interpretation of his position) "Why are they writing all of these characters from identity politics groups poorly?" isn't racist/sexist/etc. (and I imagine he likes Lando very much, as I have never met or heard of a Star Wars fan that doesn't)

6 hours ago, DanteRotterdam said:

then perhaps his weird view on gender regarding a character in the High Republic might?

I am not familiar with this, so I can't address it. I don't even know which character you are talking about.
However, if he is talking about "Avar Kriss" or whatever her name is, from that blurb, she looks like an awful character. I don't like "This character is the best, and is perfect!" sort of bios. Maybe she'll be written well, but the blurb does not inspire confidence, and I'd say that of any character with a blurb like that.

6 hours ago, DanteRotterdam said:

Or his use of “comrade” to mock those who oppose his views?

Not sure of the context or frequency of this, but you call people who oppose your views sexist/racist/bigot so...
Not something I would do or approve of, but doesn't make him altright.

6 hours ago, DanteRotterdam said:

Or the claim that gender is the only reason Kathleen Kennedy wasn’t fired?

I think this is an over simplification, and I disagree with that. However, that isn't sexist. That is presuming sexism on the other side, something I do not do unless I feel I have very good evidence. (And isn't it basically the same as saying, "If he was a woman, he wouldn't get away with that!" a fairly common refrain from feminists?)

6 hours ago, DanteRotterdam said:

Or his cries of “forced diversity” when the male white hero is no longer the central character in Star Wars?

Also an oversimplification, and not a topic I desire to wade into again, so I'll leave it at that.

He's better suited to defend himself than I am, as I do not know what is in his head or heart. Thank you for actually taking the time to support your position, however.

6 hours ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

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6 hours ago, P-47 Thunderbolt said:

9 minutes ago, DanteRotterdam said:

This is soooo problematic.

Hmm... Not really. You were saying that he dislikes characters because of their race or gender, painting them as Mary/Gary Sues/Stus to justify it.

Lando is an example of a minority character who is not poorly written.

8 minutes ago, DanteRotterdam said:

Nope. I call people with bigoted, sexist and racist views sexist/racist/bigot.
That was quite the strawman.

Well except you are calling a person sexist who is not basing their complaints on sex but on poorly written characters.