[Ruling] Retire to the Brotherhood

By Bayushi Shunsuke, in L5R LCG: Rules Discussion

How does Retire to the Brotherhood work with abilities that prevent characters from being discarded (ex: Daidoji Netsu)? Is the number of characters I reveal & put into play equal to the number of characters who are discarded, or the number of characters with no fate?

Also, if you have no characters with no fate, do you still reveal anything? Do you still shuffle?

Just now, Bayushi Shunsuke said:

How does Retire to the Brotherhood work with abilities that prevent characters from being discarded (ex: Daidoji Netsu)? Is the number of characters I reveal & put into play equal to the number of characters who are discarded, or the number of characters with no fate?

Also, if you have no characters with no fate, do you still reveal anything? Do you still shuffle?

You put into play a number of characters equal to the number of characters discarded. If Netsu prevents characters from being discarded, new characters will not enter play to replace them.

If you have no characters with no fate, reveal 0 cards. You do shuffle.

[Tyler Parrott, Mar 20 2020]

A player is at 1 Honor, with two characters with no fate.
One is Honored, the other Dishonored.
Retire to the Brotherhood is triggered.

How is this handled?
Does the player choose the order of being discarded, like in the Fate Phase?

Just now, Bayushi Shunsuke said:

A player is at 1 Honor, with two characters with no fate.
One is Honored, the other Dishonored.
Retire to the Brotherhood is triggered.

How is this handled?
Does the player choose the order of being discarded, like in the Fate Phase?

The characters leave play simultaneously, thus 1 honor is gained and lost simultaneously to result in no change in honor total.

[Tyler Parrott, Mar 31 2020]