SO

IF some one is silly enough to place a infiltration unit in your deployment (first deploy), can i deploy a unit in base to base contact, thus starting round 1 engaged?

From what i can see you don't start engaged as you cant be place in base to base?

The thing that is making think maybe they can be, is the rules post has vaders might lets you place minis into melee (official rules post)

Under Base contact on page 18 RRG

*Minis cannot be in base contact with minis from enemy units, unless the unit leader has a melee weapon (󲉫), in which case the unit leader can perform a move into base contact with a mini from an enemy unit to start a melee.

After reading infiltrate, deploy, base contact, melee, and engaged keywords, I don't see any reason why you can't deploy in base contact, in melee and engaged.

So, yes, you should be able to be engaged on turn 0 by various methods (like an enemy deploying in your zone, or you using scout to enter a melee with a infiltrated enemy).

A deploy is not a move. A scout is a valid move which works though

56 minutes ago, Mokoshkana said:

A deploy is not a move. A scout is a valid move which works though

Yeah, but I couldn't find any wording that requires you to move into engagement. It's more or less written as "if bases are touching", and no wording saying you can't deploy with bases touching.

1 hour ago, Mokoshkana said:

A deploy is not a move. A scout is a valid move which works though

I would have said that, but the problem is that we have an official ruling that when using Vader's Might you can place them into base contact and that card uses the word "place", not "move".

36 minutes ago, CyberClaw said:

Yeah, but I couldn't find any wording that requires you to move into engagement. It's more or less written as "if bases are touching", and no wording saying you can't deploy with bases touching.

I'm referring to the rules quote in the initial post.

15 minutes ago, Lemmiwinks86 said:

I would have said that, but the problem is that we have an official ruling that when using Vader's Might you can place them into base contact and that card uses the word "place", not "move".

Yeah that is wonky, and they seem counter intuitive. If that is the intent that things can be placed into combat, then I feel like they should add that to the RRG so it is explicitly stated.