Is fire support considered an attack?

I ask sas deploy the garison gives a fre stand by to two trooper units. If these units perform fire support does it eliminate the stand by?

I don't see anything in the RRG for Standby or Fire Support that would cause you to remove a standby token if the unit used a Fire Support keyword. It isn't considered an attack by the Fire Support unit.

As far as I can tell, the unit using the Fire Support keyword is not considered to have taken an action.

Keep in mind Standby tokens are lost when you preform any action, not just an attack.

• If a trooper unit gains a suppression token or performs a move, an attack, or an action, it removes any standby tokens
it has.

None of those conditions are met by using Fire Support, so in my opinion, the Standby token stays.

How is adding dice to what is called in the rule books an "attack" pool not an attack? What just because it doesn't say it in the fire support wording suddenly it's not an attack pool anymore? Everything about it says it's an attack.

Here is another way of looking at it... in the rule book it says a ranged weapon can only be used during a ranged attack. So it really shouldn't matter that it say add to the dice pool and not attack.

Attack pool

Can only be used in a ranged attack

Surely that's enough to say it's an attack.

It is an attack, but only by the unit starting the attack, not by the unit supporting it. In order to lose a standby token, the unit itself must make the attack.

Just screams stupid 40k logic to me.

23 minutes ago, SailorMeni said:

It is an attack, but only by the unit starting the attack, not by the unit supporting it. In order to lose a standby token, the unit itself must make the attack.

So rule book states you are adding to an ATTACK pool, you have to meet all the conditions for making a ranged ATTACK, you can only make ranged ATTACKS with a ranged weapon, but it's not an attack.... again stupid 40k it does say I can't on the card logic from what I can see.

The only attacking unit is the one who is attacking, the unit that provides the fire support doesn't attack, it provides "fire support" if the same unit is on standby itself , then this isn't removed since the unit supporting isn't attacking.

1 hour ago, Big k said:

So rule book states you are adding to an ATTACK pool, you have to meet all the conditions for making a ranged ATTACK, you can only make ranged ATTACKS with a ranged weapon, but it's not an attack.... again stupid 40k it does say I can't on the card logic from what I can see.

That's correct. You basically have to meet the conditions for making an attack, but you are not actually performing an attack in game terms.

This is not just some arbitrary semantic argument for the sake of making an argument. There are real implications involved. The game designers have apparently decided that they don’t want the FS unit to affect cover or to affect which minis are eligible to receive wounds. It seems they just want it to contribute weapons while having no other effect. If they had made the FS unit an official “attacker”, both of those things would be affected (among potentially other things that I can’t think of right now).

1 hour ago, nashjaee said:

That's correct. You basically have to meet the conditions for making an attack, but you are not actually performing an attack in game terms.

This is not just some arbitrary semantic argument for the sake of making an argument. There are real implications involved. The game designers have apparently decided that they don’t want the FS unit to affect cover or to affect which minis are eligible to receive wounds. It seems they just want it to contribute weapons while having no other effect. If they had made the FS unit an official “attacker”, both of those things would be affected (among potentially other things that I can’t think of right now).

It would have made the entire process of using Fire Support monumentally more complex and time-consuming for no benefit whatsoever.

Fire Support is effectively the attacking unit being gifted the weapons of the FS unit for an attack, then giving them back afterwards.

The FS unit doesn't use the weapons, the Attacking unit does.