Issuing Commands to Operatives with Comms Relay?

By Elliphino, in Rules

The "Operatives" section of the Rules Reference says that operatives cannot be issued orders by a non-operative specific command card.

But Comms Relay lets a unit order another unit within 1-2 when they would be issued an order.

So can Comms Relay issue a non-operative specific card order to an operative?

One could say no, because the command card is still non-operative specific even though its going through comms relay.

But perhaps one could say yes because 1) technically the order is not coming directly from the card, rather another unit with the ability to issue orders, and 2) "Golden Rule #2" that gives preference to specific rules and cards over the rules reference.

What say you?

2 minutes ago, Elliphino said:

The "Operatives" section of the Rules Reference says that operatives cannot be issued orders by a non-operative specific command card.

But Comms Relay lets a unit order another unit within 1-2 when they would be issued an order.

So can Comms Relay issue a non-operative specific card order to an operative?

One could say no, because the command card is still non-operative specific even though its going through comms relay.

But perhaps one could say yes because 1) technically the order is not coming directly from the card, rather another unit with the ability to issue orders, and 2) "Golden Rule #2" that gives preference to specific rules and cards over the rules reference.

What say you?

I don't see that in the RRG, could you indicate the page you see that?

Are you misreading this section?

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When playing a non-operative-specific command card, a player cannot nominate an operative.

Which means you can't nominate an operative to ISSUE orders from a non-operative command card, unless that Operative has become your commander. This says nothing about the Operative receiving orders from a non-operative specific command card.

3 minutes ago, Elliphino said:

The "Operatives" section of the Rules Reference says that operatives cannot be issued orders by a non-operative specific command card.

That's actually not what it says, but is a common point of confusion. It says an operative cannot be "nominated" when using a non-operative command card. You can absolutely issue order to them.

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  • When playing a non-operative-specific command card, a player cannot nominate an operative

11 minutes ago, Elliphino said:

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  • When playing a non-operative-specific command card, a player cannot nominate an operative

You nominate a unit to issue orders, but that is independent to what units can be issued an order. In other words, that line doesn't tell you that you cannot issue an order to an operative, it just says that you cannot nomitate an operative to be issuing orders that turn.

As soon as I saw the thread title I knew this is what it was going to be. A bunch of people at my local game store thought you couldn't issue orders to Operatives until we actually cracked open the RRG in detail. Unsurprisingly most of them were Imperial players who at the time only took one Commander and didn't realize you had to nominate one to issue the orders.

Edited by arnoldrew

Ah, gotcha. Thanks for pointing that out

will add one thing to this. if the operative is your nonimated commander through your original command is dead (battlefield promotion for the win) you can nominate from them at that time and still use its original command cards too.