Hello there,

I come here after a quite "argued" arguing with my circle of players. We were arguing on the possibility of ordering Boba Fett with the new 1-pip Imperial card.

I stay on the rule of Operative, who says that he just can be ordered with it's own card.

They are (all) saying that because the card "can order an operative, then Boba can be ordered". I think because for now, there is no other Imperial Operative except Boba. They are just saying that "Cards are taking over the rule references".

Can you help me (or them. In any case, it will help me ) ?

Thanks a lot !
Cheers
Me

6 minutes ago, RaevenKS said:

Hello there,

I come here after a quite "argued" arguing with my circle of players. We were arguing on the possibility of ordering Boba Fett with the new 1-pip Imperial card.

I stay on the rule of Boba, who says that he just can be ordered with it's own card.

They are (all) saying that because the card "can order an operator, then Boba can be ordered". I think because for now, there is no other Imperial Operator except Boba. They are just saying that "Cards are taking over the rule references".

Can you help me (or them. In any case, it will help me ) ?

Thanks a lot !
Cheers
Me

I think that you are confusing a little bit the rules for Operatives. The thing with them is that they cannot be issuing orders unless you play one of their own command cards. But that doesn't prevent you from issue an order to them if that order is issued by one of your commanders.
So for example, If Boba is at range 1-3 of Veers and Veers is issuing orders that turn, if the command card you play doesn't have a restriction that couldn't include Boba (like Evasive Maneuvers for example, as Boba isn't a vehicle), you can issue an order to him.

5 minutes ago, Lemmiwinks86 said:

I think that you are confusing a little bit the rules for Operatives. The thing with them is that they cannot be issuing orders unless you play one of their own command cards. But that doesn't prevent you from issue an order to them if that order is issued by one of your commanders.
So for example, If Boba is at range 1-3 of Veers and Veers is issuing orders that turn, if the command card you play doesn't have a restriction that couldn't include Boba (like Evasive Maneuvers for example, as Boba isn't a vehicle), you can issue an order to him.

Well, no. That is for sure no. An operative can only be issued an order if it is from a card that is specific to it. You can't order an operative with ambush for example (References Rules, I don't remember the page tho).

3 minutes ago, RaevenKS said:

Well, no. That is for sure no. An operative can only be issued an order if it is from a card that is specific to it. You can't order an operative with ambush for example (References Rules, I don't remember the page tho).

I think you are talking about this right?

"When playing a non-operative-specific command card, a player cannot nominate an operative."

If so, that doesn't mean that you cannot issue orders to an operative, but that you cannot nominate an operative to be issuing orders in that case.

Are... You sure ?

I mean. I am completely bumped by the complexity of the operatives rules, and in french it is not even "clearier" than in english.

That, plus the fact that my "circle" is sure of what they are saying, so I can't even "bring them light" without being 100% sure and accurate, with all the rules about it that does not lead to "interpretation".

33 minutes ago, RaevenKS said:

Are... You sure ?

I mean. I am completely bumped by the complexity of the operatives rules, and in french it is not even "clearier" than in english.

That, plus the fact that my "circle" is sure of what they are saying, so I can't even "bring them light" without being 100% sure and accurate, with all the rules about it that does not lead to "interpretation".

100% sure.

RRG page 2, under "Command Phase":

"3. Issue Orders: Starting with the player who has priority, each player nominates a friendly commander and issues orders with that commander . The number of orders to be issued is indicated on the orders section of the chosen command card."

Here is important the distiction between nominate a commander and issue orders. I think here is where your group is getting the confusion.

Then on page 43, under "Operative" is the rule I mentioned in my previous comment:

"When playing a non-operative-specific command card, a player cannot nominate an operative."

Note that the only mention when you play a non-operatove command card is that you cannot nominate an operative, but as seen before, you nominate a unit to be the one issuing orders, you doesn't nominate a unit to be issued an order, you just issue an order with the nominated commander.

@Lemmiwinks86 ‘s advice is definitely correct.

I think you’re mixing up a few things with the Operative rules. You can absolutely issue orders to them as you would any other units (just check the restrictions on the cards to make sure it’s legal).

The restriction that’s confusing you is this: when you play your command card and select a commander, you cannot select the Operative unless you played one of his cards. This is not a restriction about issuing orders to anyone; it’s about who you select to measure ranges and issue order from .

Yes, I had the exact same reflexion once I re-read all the "orders" shenanigan.

Thanks a lot for the answer. Then, Operatives are stronger than any dudes in my circle played (and explain them) to me.

Thanks a lot