Battle Cards

By Thalandar, in Rules

A question of battle cards has come up. With the addition of Priority Supplies, new battle cards have been introduced. The tourament guidelines are that you bring 4 of each battle card type to the event, but what about non tournament play? I have been shuffling ALL the cards and drawing 3 random of each type. However, there is a player I know who dislikes battle lines, so he excludes the card from his mix. He then posts his list and invites people to play, purposely take 50 points less to get blue player. he then uses his deck, so baatle lines never comes up.

Now, the reason he does this is clear. He plays a ranged shooty army (empire), and battle lines is not a good set up for his army (ie he knows my wookies can close and be in his face quickly). He calls this "tactics". I call it cheese ball and border line cheating. can someone please show me (in the RRG, not the tournament guidelines) where it says you can exclude battle cards? (FYI, he's a rules lawyer) All i can find is RRG page 6 under set up, step 5 "Shuffle the objective, deployment and condition decks separately. Then, draw and reveal 3 cards from each deck". To me this seems clear, take ALL of the cards, shuffle, draw and reveal 3. Not "I don't like this card so I m not going to include it because it doesn't suit my army.

Remember I'm dealing with a rules lawyer here, so I need facts not opinions (though, honestly, this whole experience has made me question if I will ever play this player again. He sucks the life and fun out of the game.)

30 minutes ago, Thalandar said:

A question of battle cards has come up. With the addition of Priority Supplies, new battle cards have been introduced. The tourament guidelines are that you bring 4 of each battle card type to the event, but what about non tournament play? I have been shuffling ALL the cards and drawing 3 random of each type. However, there is a player I know who dislikes battle lines, so he excludes the card from his mix. He then posts his list and invites people to play, purposely take 50 points less to get blue player. he then uses his deck, so baatle lines never comes up.

Now, the reason he does this is clear. He plays a ranged shooty army (empire), and battle lines is not a good set up for his army (ie he knows my wookies can close and be in his face quickly). He calls this "tactics". I call it cheese ball and border line cheating. can someone please show me (in the RRG, not the tournament guidelines) where it says you can exclude battle cards? (FYI, he's a rules lawyer) All i can find is RRG page 6 under set up, step 5 "Shuffle the objective, deployment and condition decks separately. Then, draw and reveal 3 cards from each deck". To me this seems clear, take ALL of the cards, shuffle, draw and reveal 3. Not "I don't like this card so I m not going to include it because it doesn't suit my army.

Remember I'm dealing with a rules lawyer here, so I need facts not opinions (though, honestly, this whole experience has made me question if I will ever play this player again. He sucks the life and fun out of the game.)

In the RRG there is nothing that mentions that you must select any number of battle cards, as you said, it is only mentioned in the tournament rules.
Taking this into account you must do the opposite when talking to this guy, you don't have to prove anything, he is the one that must show you where in the rules it says that you can choose to leave out a battle card.

Edited by Lemmiwinks86

In addition to @Lemmiwinks86 's very logical answer, you could bid 51 points and add it back into your deck. Hopefully it comes up!

If you are playing with a friend, you can agree on whatever you want.

If you are playing with someone else, I would suggest to play by competitive standards. Or don't play with him.