The rules state that when you add a mini to a group, the added mini may use what ever weapons are on the base card of the group. For example, the Z-22 has his weapon, and even shown by the model there is a rifle slung on his backpack.

Acording to the rules, when adding the officer to a unit, you don't add his white+black pistol, but you can use whatever weapons are in the unit, be it a rifle or trooper pistol.

Adepticon states that for Legion they are using WYSIWYG, and they made no distinction on "oh this is only for vehicles"

So how can an officer use the invisible rifle in his group while following that rule? I think it feels off that a tournament would have players break a core rule of the game just for sake of athsetics

I would be very confident that using the unaltered figures must result in using the rules correctly. Otherwise some Royal Guards / Wookies wouldn't be allowed to shoot because their sculpts miss the shooting weapons. That would be simply ridiculous.

But probably best to ask the organizers for an offizial statement.

He has a modified focusing emitter to give extra range though less firepower and accuracy. -1 white dice, +1 range.

Isn't the A180 a modifiable pistol anyway?

On 1/18/2019 at 3:32 AM, gothound said:

So how can an officer use the invisible rifle in his group while following that rule? I think it feels off that a tournament would have players break a core rule of the game just for sake of athsetics

They are in a squad that is toting rifles. I can see that. The rules are that they fire like their squad. Done. What I see is what I get. If you wish, you may imagine they have a custom pistol, or that they don't actually shoot but their advice doubles the effectiveness of one of the squad members who is shooting.

If you're unfamiliar with the spirit of the rule, this is the kind of thing that is understood and allowed by it. For example. In WFB (an OOP example which is nonetheless an ideal example for many reasons) the rules were WYSIWYG... but a unit of archers could have a standard bearer, leader (possibly and/or champion), and musician. These 3 or 4 models did not have to have bows sculpted onto them in order to be counted towards how many shots the archers got to make. Alternatively, using a figure with a sword in the middle of a unit armed with spears, did not mean you got one less spearpoint added to the phalanx of attacks. Everyone can still tell how many archers are in the front rank even though the flag bearer doesn't technically have a bow sculpted onto him, and they can see that bristling hedgehog of spearpoints despite using a sword & shield guy as a rank filler.

However, using a unit of crossbow armed dark elves, as human longbowmen, was illegal. It's confusing, it's immersion blowing, it's probably a cheapskate powergamer move, and it goes way beyond a mere aesthetic tweak or using a couple close-but-different spare figures to alter the sizes of your units.So what they are going to be looking for, is, someone using an Ion Gun as a Z-6. It's confusing, and it's probably just so the player can poach the spare trooper from each of several squads to create a new minimum sized squad plus a "Z6" using a spare Ion Grrrl miniature. Or worse, Rebel Troopers with ion gun as Snowtroopers with flamer. Yes, people do stuff like that when there's no WYSIWYG rules and a prize to win.

One imagines it goes down like this:

"Well I have two core sets and a bunch of (grey) Imperial characters to minmax a bunch of command/upgrade cards with... that only gives me 4 (grey) corps, but activation spam is awesome so... my (grey) rebels are now scout troopers: the (grey) one with a Z6 is a sniper, the (grey) Duros has explosives. This'll work fine, instead of photocopied cards like I usually use, I'm borrowing my buddies spare yet official cards for the tournament cause he's not going this year. So here we go, got my scout sniper teams using my core set rebels... Uh... they are 'mercenaries' in combat fatigues that 'count as' scout troopers... yeah that's the ticket!"

It's confusing, non-immersive, and a generally lame experience for your opponent.

However, the officer figure is MEANT to join a unit and roll dice for a gun hasn't got... just like figures are MEANT to have grenades they aren't actually modeled with, Leia doesn't have to model a Y-Wing overhead to come and drop bombs on people, and so on. The Veers model sure doesn't LOOK like it has an actual E-11 to me. You know, Ion Grrrl technically is modeled with an E-11 as her backup weapon. Doesn't matter though. We all know what they are and how they work in-game.

This is the intent behind WYSIWYG rules. To keep things clear, and awesome looking. Like the 3-colors (plus basing, not counting undercoat) rule, if that's still a thing. Events like Adepticon are like a red carpet event for this stuff. Ya gotta wear a certain level of clothing to the Oscars even though it doesn't affect the actual winners and losers of the awards.