I was curious what ships we might get next so I thought lets make a list of all ships for the rebels and the empire that are canon (as I doubt new legends ships will be coming to the game) and not in the game already. I organized the ships into one of three categories: First: The ship is depicted being used by it's respective faction in a movie or on TV. Second: The ship is depicted being used by it's respective faction in other canon material like comics or reference books. Third: The ship is mentioned being used by the respective faction in other canon materials like novels (looking at you Tarkin)

Imperial:

Depicted in movies or TV

• Venator-class Star Destroyer (ROTS)
• Tector-class Star Destroyer (ROTJ)
• IGV-55 surveillance vessel (Rebels)
• Arrestor Cruiser (Solo)
• Imperial Support Vessel (Rebels)

Depicted in other Canon material

• Razor-class frigate (The Weapon of a Jedi, Part 1)
• Siege Breaker (Star Wars: The Rebel Files)

Only named / no depiction

• Secutor-class Star Destroyer (Tarkin)
• Detainer CC-2200 (Tarkin)
• Carrack-class light cruiser (Tarkin)
• CC-7700 frigate (Tarkin)
• qaz-class Star Destroyer (Catalyst: A Rogue One Novel)
• Praetor-class Star Battlecruiser (Star Wars: Complete Locations)
• Carrion Spike (Tarkin)
• Bulk cruiser (mentioned in ANH)
• Attack cruiser (Lost Stars)

Rebels:

Depicted in movies or TV

• CR70 corvette (ROTS)
• Braha'tok-class gunship / Dornean gunship (ROTJ, Rogue One, Rebels)

Depicted in other Canon material

• Marsheem-class heavy cruiser (Star Wars Adventures)
• Several unidentified Mon Calamari cruiser 1 2 3 (Star Wars comic)
• Lucrehulk-class Battleship (Doctor Aphra)
• DP20 Frigate (Star Wars comic)

Only named / no depiction

• Providence-class dreadnought (Tarkin)
• Starhawk-class battleship (Aftermath) *
• Alderaanian escort frigate (Aftermath) *

Theses are all the ships I could find so far. Help me complete this list. I will try to keep it up to date and tell me which ships you think are most likely to come in the next waves and which ones would you wish to be in the next waves.

I personally doubt we will get ships that are in the third category (the only exception could be the Providence-class for the rebels but only if they go into the clone wars anyway to make it a dual faction ship). I also mostly think it is not very likely that we will get ships that are only depicted in comics. Maybe some of the MC ships and maybe the Lucrehulk once they go clone wars. That only leaves category one ships of which the Empire still has a few but it doesn't look to great for the rebels. I doubt we will get the CR70 since it is visually WAY to similar to the CR90 and I think it would be really bad for the game if the rebels got another ultra cheap way to add more activations (they already have a huge advantage over the empire in this regard). That leaves the rebels with only one ship that I would think of as a likely candidate for an Armada expansion, the Braha'tok-class gunship. So my money is on it as the next rebel ship. But what will FFG bring us after that? Lets hop that the two new live action TV shows will bring some new rebel capital ships otherwise I think there might be trouble for galactic civil war Armada (since I doubt Disney will give permission to use legends ships). Now for the empire I see some more potential expansions. I think the IGV-55 and Imperial Support Vessel are very likely contenders for future expansions. I don't think we will get the Tector and I am not sure the Arrestor would fit into the game (I believe it is actually unarmed and has only tractor beams). Lastly I think the Venator is likely to come to the game but I think FFG might hold back on it until they go into the clone wars (if that is what the want to do). All this leaves me thinking that in the current canon there is only enough content for an additional couple of waves in the galactic civil war era.

That leaves me thinking that if FFG wants to continue the game they will have to move to a new era like the clone wars or the sequel time period (though I think there is more demand for clone wars factions) and if they do there is a realistic possibility that releases for the galactic civil war factions might slow down (even farther).

*: Was used during the GCW but by that point the Rebellion had already become the New Republic.

Edit1: Added Siege Breaker, Bulk cruiser and Attack cruiser to the lists. Added Rogue One and Rebels appearance to Braha'tok-class gunship / Dornean gunship.

Edit2: Added Starhawk and Alderaanian escort frigate to the lists. Added footnote "*".

Well, to be fair, the Providence in Tarkin was really a virago from Providence, Muneficent and others .... And they even note the differences.

The best description is from Tarkins sentinel base operator.

“Begged and Borrowed, Sir...”

Was looking through the list to make a comment, but I think you've got them all. And I agree with your assessment, group #3 is unlikely. Group #1 is the most probable, and group #2 probably just picked from as-needed (IE., the Lucrehulk if it's decided the Rebels need their own 'Huge' ship, otherwise...probably not).

Maybe add a note on the Dornean gunship that it was also seen on-screen in 'Rebels' and 'Rogue One', too, so...

The local bulk cruisers! Canon as ****.

Also i reckon there is scope for a chimera style 'battle of endor' pack for the home one. New ship cards giving the mc80 a serious beef up - hull 13, more shields, fleet command slots, one version gunned up with additional ion slots and the other with extra officer and fleet command slots.

15 minutes ago, Ophion said:

The local bulk cruisers! Canon as ****.

Aside from the fact that Han was speaking in colloquialisms, and so likely referring to something we've already seen.

After all, "the big Corellian ships" is now known to be a reference to the Imperial-class Star Destroyers (as of 'Solo' at least, although it was certainly suggested in the very early days of the EU, too). So who knows what a 'bulk cruiser' is. Probably the Gozanti-type "cruisers" that we saw appear so often in Rebels? Given they were half as often referred to as transports or freighters...

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Also i reckon there is scope for a chimera style 'battle of endor' pack for the home one. New ship cards giving the mc80 a serious beef up - hull 13, more shields, fleet command slots, one version gunned up with additional ion slots and the other with extra officer and fleet command slots.

Actually that does remind me of one more ship that the OP list is missing. The "wingless Liberty" variant of the MC80 (seen in RotJ) is still absent. Not that it's anything like interesting enough a ship to be worth doing, but it has a lot more difference from the MC80s we currently have than the best guesses of how the Tector-class differs from an ISD.

1 hour ago, xanderf said:

Maybe add a note on the Dornean gunship that it was also seen on-screen in 'Rebels' and 'Rogue One', too, so...

Done

22 minutes ago, Ophion said:

The local bulk cruisers  ! Canon as ****.

Ah ok, bulk cruiser reffers to a specific model of ship. The wiki lists several ship typs with very generic names (Attack cruiser, Bulk cruiser, Siege Breaker) that were used by the empire but it seems they actually refer to specific models of ships. Added them to the list.

6 minutes ago, xanderf said:

Aside from the fact that Han was speaking in colloquialisms, and so likely refe  rring to something we've already seen.

That's what I thought at fist too. But it seems that at least in legends bulk cruiser referred to a specific ship model .

If we're going with GCW era you also have the Starhawks and the MC85 as capital ships, then unspecified Assault and Escort Frigates . Technically they're not canonically Rebel ships (although in some of the sources the MC85 is), but there's some overlap and aside from the Starhawks it is pretty hard to imagine them springing up overnight when the Alliance-t-r-t-R became the New Republic.

I also wouldn't put too much emphasis on the comics; there's some evidence they just grabbed whatever ship designs they could find. One of them turned out to have been "borrowed" from some fan art, without permission.

16 minutes ago, Grumbleduke said:

If we're going with GCW era you also have the Starhawks and the MC85 as capital ships, then unspecified Assault and Escort Frigates . Technically they're not canonically Rebel ships (although in some of the sources the MC85 is), but there's some overlap.

Yeah I was wondering about the Starhawk but it is never mentioned to be used by the rebellion AFAIK. Though an argument can be made that the rebellion turned into the new republic during the GCW.

I think it makes sense to include the Starhawn, and the Alderaanian escort frigate as they were still used during the GCW. The Assault frigate from Aftermath is a little ambiguous since there is already one in the game. But the MC85 however does decidedly not fit in with the rebellion since it was manufactured after the GCW.

37 minutes ago, Grumbleduke said:

Technically they're not canonically Rebel ships (although in some of the sources the MC85 is)

Can you link me those sources? The wiki says the MC85 is build after the GCW.

8 hours ago, LordCola said:

Imperial:

Depicted in movies or TV

• Tector-class Star Destroyer (ROTJ)

This one always gets me when this one comes up. This was (in my view) an obvious modeling error in ROTJ that they explain away as being another class of Star Destroyer. The only difference being the lack of a Hanger Bay on the underside of the ship. A Star Destroyer without a fighter complement would have been quite odd. As for its relevence to Armada... No way we see it as a new model, its just the hanger bay after all and while playing you never see the underside of the ships. The only way we might see the Tector is as an added title for the Star Destroyer but even then I don't think it will ever come to pass.

1 hour ago, Thrindal said:

This one always gets me when this one comes up. This was (in my view) an obvious modeling error in ROTJ that they explain away as being another class of Star Destroyer. The only difference being the lack of a Hanger Bay on the underside of the ship. A Star Destroyer without a fighter complement would have been quite odd. As for its relevence to Armada... No way we see it as a new model, its just the hanger bay after all and while playing you never see the underside of the ships. The only way we might see the Tector is as an added title for the Star Destroyer but even then I don't think it will ever come to pass.

Hope springs eternal - since we never saw the TOP (or rear) of the Tector, it could well be otherwise identical to an ISD-I, rather than the ISD-II models we've been getting. Still - it's a lot of fiddly differences between an ISD-I and ISD-II, but if they did a Tector as an otherwise-ISD-I top with the absent hangar bay bottom...and another (more white?) paintjob entirely...I'd be okay with that.

2 hours ago, LordCola said:

That's what I thought at fist too. But it seems that at least in legends bulk cruiser referred to a specific ship model .

'Legends' does a lot of things. There is nothing in canon to support that. Odds even, 'local bulk cruiser' refers to a Gozanti in canon. If not yet, someday.

I know fighters are really X-wings bread and butter, and we really don’t need another fighter pack(just reprints, mainly), but I would love to at least see U-wings and Tie Reapers in this game. Make them a filler ship points wise between fighter aces and generic bigger ships (14-19 points range) and give them some unique ability around boarding. I think they would be a cool addition.

50 minutes ago, FlyingAnchors said:

I know fighters are really X-wings bread and butter, and we really don’t need another fighter pack(just reprints, mainly), but I would love to at least see U-wings and Tie Reapers in this game. Make them a filler ship points wise between fighter aces and generic bigger ships (14-19 points range) and give them some unique ability around boarding. I think they would be a cool addition.

There are some squadrons I'd like to see for Galactic Civil War, at least for Rebels. ARC-170s, LAAT gunships, U wings.

But thats also because I believe in overlapping existing factions with stuff that will exist when Clone Wars comes out. So we could get a conversion kit for certain things, like the Pelta, Arquitens, Victory... adding in some Squadrons that people will already own might encourage people to try Republic, at the very least.

10 minutes ago, Ling27 said:

There are some squadrons I'd like to see for Galactic Civil War, at least for Rebels. ARC-170s, LAAT gunships, U wings.

But thats also because I believe in overlapping existing factions with stuff that will exist when Clone Wars comes out. So we could get a conversion kit for certain things, like the Pelta, Arquitens, Victory... adding in some Squadrons that people will already own might encourage people to try Republic, at the very least.

I totally agree with the idea it would be neat to have a conversion kit that encourages existing players to try a new faction with what they already own. And there are a number of ships already in game that would allow you to do that while others could be added in on either the Imperial or Rebel factions. Personally though I would also love to see them add in the much argued over Scum faction with a simple modification that would allow an easier introduction. Essentially treat them as mercenary units that either faction can bring in their fleet or as a standalone force of their own. It would allow the introduction of the units (with possible conversions for minor units already in game) without needing to catch up a whole faction and risk alienating the core players who already invested in fleets and are looking forward to something new they can use. And yes, there are canon sources that talk about some of the crime syndicates actually being more of a power than just street thugs who reasonably would have a small space force of their own as well. Aaand Mandalorians.

6 hours ago, Thrindal said:

This one always gets me when this one comes up. This was (in my view) an obvious modeling error in ROTJ that they explain away as being another class of Star Destroyer. The only difference being the lack of a Hanger Bay on the underside of the ship. A Star Destroyer without a fighter complement would have been quite odd. As for its relevence to Armada... No way we see it as a new model, its just the hanger bay after all and while playing you never see the underside of the ships. The only way we might see the Tector is as an added title for the Star Destroyer but even then I don't think it will ever come to pass.

Agree. This really doesn’t need to be a new model. 2 ISDs is enough.

The Kuat is practically a Tector anyways (assuming the Tector has some fighter capacity)

4 hours ago, FlyingAnchors said:

I know fighters are really X-wings bread and butter, and we really don’t need another fighter pack(just reprints, mainly), but I would love to at least see U-wings and Tie Reapers in this game. Make them a filler ship points wise between fighter aces and generic bigger ships (14-19 points range) and give them some unique ability around boarding. I think they would be a cool addition.

U wings & K wings would be cool.

Id like the Avenger, Scimitar bomber, Assault gunboat & TIE Droid for the empire.

9 hours ago, LordCola said:

Can you link me those sources? The wiki says the MC85 is build after the GCW.

No, because I can't find them any more.

At some point there was a source (one of the early TLJ sourcebooks?) that said the Raddus was under construction during the Battle of Endor, making it definitely Rebellion era, and not just GCW era. There's also a reference somewhere to it being the last ship made before the Military Disarmament Act came into force after the Battle of Jakku, which would also make it GCW era (just).

I'd like to say bravo for compiling the list!

I also hold out hope that we see more of the other ships and squadrons as time goes on. And I'd still like to hold out for ships from the PC games, despite the lack of proper canonocity.

Did I just make up a word? LOL

2 hours ago, Grumbleduke said:

No, because I can't find them any more.

At some point there was a source (one of the early TLJ sourcebooks?) that said the Raddus was under construction during the Battle of Endor, making it definitely Rebellion era, and not just GCW era. There's also a reference somewhere to it being the last ship made before the Military Disarmament Act came into force after the Battle of Jakku, which would also make it GCW era (just).

I have the TLJ visual guide. I will look at it tonight and see if it spells it out. I believe it says exact that in there. Radius made at the very end of the GCW.

12 hours ago, Thrindal said:

This one always gets me when this one comes up. This was (in my view) an obvious modeling error in ROTJ that they explain away as being another class of Star Destroyer. The only difference being the lack of a Hanger Bay on the underside of the ship. A Star Destroyer without a fighter complement would have been quite odd. As for its relevence to Armada... No way we see it as a new model, its just the hanger bay after all and while playing you never see the underside of the ships. The only way we might see the Tector is as an added title for the Star Destroyer but even then I don't think it will ever come to pass.

While I agree that the tendency to assign a new ship/weapon/person/etc to explain modeling or casting errors is annoying, an over-armored Star Destroyer without a fighter compliment does actually make sense. If it is limited to what we see in RotJ, being part of a larger fleet or defending a planet, carrying its own fighter complement is unnecessary. Additionally, if we go by the Latin name and the EU's background of it being a Clone Wars-era design, it makes sense as a support ship for the mainstay Venator-Class SDs. Whereas the Venator was a carrier masquerading as an SD, but with less armor than ideal for slugging it out with CIS capital ships, the Tector would make a great ship of the line and offer a means of balancing certain fleets.

If they were to release it in Armada, I'd like to see it gain hull value, as well as potentially shields and weapons, but at the cost of having no fighter commands, and being pricer than other ISD varients. A new model is likely not needed, but if handled appropriately, wouldn't be a terrible thing.

Wingless liberty is, IMO, definitely worth its own ship! (or at least a new model and title or something like Chimaera). It's very prominent in the Sullust jump scene and is one of my favorite designs!

In terms of rules, what if it were an MC-80 title that added a weapons team

on the rebel side, the two ROTJ ships Mel's has named MC20 and Sullustan Dreadnough are canon, and could stop the gap me all see in current rebel Range (maybe)

the dreadnough, which I'm sure is the ship landing at 0:35 in this video of Solo Corellia chase

from Tarkin, Lancer frigate and Carrack light cruser for the Imp's

10 minutes ago, gounour said:

the dreadnough, which I'm sure is the ship landing at 0:35 in this video of Solo Corellia chase 

That's not a dreadnought but... something weird. At first I assumed it was just another Gozanti variant (as a general rule any weird-looking small ship in any Star Wars thing since Episode I is a Gozanti of some sort), but the engines are all wrong. There seems to be another one taking off on the right, and a third landed below that one.

After a bit of digging, there is a more detailed version here , which is Solo concept art by Brett Northcutt, and according to the description the starship is a design by fellow Star Wars concept artist Thom Tenery - but I haven't found a name for the ship yet. Wookieepedia doesn't seem to have it.

From a distance the drive section looks like a CR90, but it seems to be a completely new design. Anyone have any more details?

On 1/9/2019 at 12:22 PM, LordCola said:

I was curious what ships we might get next so I thought lets make a list of all ships for the rebels and the empire that are canon (as I doubt new legends ships will be coming to the game) and not in the game already. I organized the ships into one of three categories: First: The ship is depicted being used by it's respective faction in a movie or on TV. Second: The ship is depicted being used by it's respective faction in other canon material like comics or reference books. Third: The ship is mentioned being used by the respective faction in other canon materials like novels (looking at you Tarkin)

Imperial:

Depicted in movies or TV

• Venator-class Star Destroyer (ROTS)
• Tector-class Star Destroyer (ROTJ)
• IGV-55 surveillance vessel (Rebels)
• Arrestor Cruiser (Solo)
• Imperial Support Vessel (Rebels)

Depicted in other Canon material

• Razor-class frigate (The Weapon of a Jedi, Part 1)
• Siege Breaker (Star Wars: The Rebel Files)

Only named / no depiction

• Secutor-class Star Destroyer (Tarkin)
• Detainer CC-2200 (Tarkin)
• Carrack-class light cruiser (Tarkin)
• CC-7700 frigate (Tarkin)
• qaz-class Star Destroyer (Catalyst: A Rogue One Novel)
• Praetor-class Star Battlecruiser (Star Wars: Complete Locations)
• Carrion Spike (Tarkin)
• Bulk cruiser (mentioned in ANH)
• Attack cruiser (Lost Stars)

Rebels:

Depicted in movies or TV

• CR70 corvette (ROTS)
• Braha'tok-class gunship / Dornean gunship (ROTJ, Rogue One, Rebels)

Depicted in other Canon material

• Marsheem-class heavy cruiser (Star Wars Adventures)
• Several unidentified Mon Calamari cruiser 1 2 3 (Star Wars comic)
• Lucrehulk-class Battleship (Doctor Aphra)
• DP20 Frigate (Star Wars comic)

Only named / no depiction

• Providence-class dreadnought (Tarkin)
• Starhawk-class battleship (Aftermath) *
• Alderaanian escort frigate (Aftermath) *

Theses are all the ships I could find so far. Help me complete this list. I will try to keep it up to date and tell me which ships you think are most likely to come in the next waves and which ones would you wish to be in the next waves.

I personally doubt we will get ships that are in the third category (the only exception could be the Providence-class for the rebels but only if they go into the clone wars anyway to make it a dual faction ship). I also mostly think it is not very likely that we will get ships that are only depicted in comics. Maybe some of the MC ships and maybe the Lucrehulk once they go clone wars. That only leaves category one ships of which the Empire still has a few but it doesn't look to great for the rebels. I doubt we will get the CR70 since it is visually WAY to similar to the CR90 and I think it would be really bad for the game if the rebels got another ultra cheap way to add more activations (they already have a huge advantage over the empire in this regard). That leaves the rebels with only one ship that I would think of as a likely candidate for an Armada expansion, the Braha'tok-class gunship. So my money is on it as the next rebel ship. But what will FFG bring us after that? Lets hop that the two new live action TV shows will bring some new rebel capital ships otherwise I think there might be trouble for galactic civil war Armada (since I doubt Disney will give permission to use legends ships). Now for the empire I see some more potential expansions. I think the IGV-55 and Imperial Support Vessel are very likely contenders for future expansions. I don't think we will get the Tector and I am not sure the Arrestor would fit into the game (I believe it is actually unarmed and has only tractor beams). Lastly I think the Venator is likely to come to the game but I think FFG might hold back on it until they go into the clone wars (if that is what the want to do). All this leaves me thinking that in the current canon there is only enough content for an additional couple of waves in the galactic civil war era.

That leaves me thinking that if FFG wants to continue the game they will have to move to a new era like the clone wars or the sequel time period (though I think there is more demand for clone wars factions) and if they do there is a realistic possibility that releases for the galactic civil war factions might slow down (even farther).

*: Was used during the GCW but by that point the Rebellion had already become the New Republic.

Edit1: Added Siege Breaker, Bulk cruiser and Attack cruiser to the lists. Added Rogue One and Rebels appearance to Braha'tok-class gunship / Dornean gunship.

Edit2: Added Starhawk and Alderaanian escort frigate to the lists. Added footnote "*".

The Carrion Spike is also in Poe Dameron comics

On 1/10/2019 at 9:21 AM, Rune Taq said:

I have the TLJ visual guide. I will look at it tonight and see if it spells it out. I believe it says exact that in there. Radius made at the very end of the GCW.

So I looked it up. The radus was one of the last warships DESIGNED at the end of the GCW. Served in the new republic fleet but was retired in favor of a less crew-intensive design.

Point is it would seem that the Radus or any other MC 85 never served in the Rebel alliance. So probably not going to be a Rebel ship unless FFG wants to break the rules.