7 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:Zizi will be so expensive! I'm playing my first game with her right now and WOW! First roll had natties so I just took an evade because why not...
She’s going to be a target aversion machine.
Five A-Wings
So, just played and won my first "w6 hs 5A" game. I think I'll start taking notes and keeping track again. Was against Lando Luke Arvel. I took out Arvel first (or would have, he made a very risky move at 1hull and left the field), then Lando to 1/2pts while only giving up 20pts of Ronith thanks to his ability! I can write up everything tomorrow, I took the pictures etc. It certainly helped that I blocked Luke on e-v-e-r-y turn but the last, so he never got his proton torps off. And Lando got blocked about 3 times out of 7 turns. Definitely helped a lot!
So far, Zizi is ridiculously strong. As in, I don't know what they were thinking. And Ronith has a great ability. There is usually a focus left on the board and it allows him to get 100% on 2hits, so there's that. Those two and Greer all are amazing. A PS1 blocker
12 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:I think I'll start taking notes and keeping track again.
There's no "Yay!" react, so you get a "Thanks!"
1 hour ago, GreenDragoon said:So, just played and won my first "w6 hs 5A" game. I think I'll start taking notes and keeping track again. Was against Lando Luke Arvel. I took out Arvel first (or would have, he made a very risky move at 1hull and left the field), then Lando to 1/2pts while only giving up 20pts of Ronith thanks to his ability! I can write up everything tomorrow, I took the pictures etc. It certainly helped that I blocked Luke on e-v-e-r-y turn but the last, so he never got his proton torps off. And Lando got blocked about 3 times out of 7 turns. Definitely helped a lot!
So far, Zizi is ridiculously strong. As in, I don't know what they were thinking. And Ronith has a great ability. There is usually a focus left on the board and it allows him to get 100% on 2hits, so there's that. Those two and Greer all are amazing. A PS1 blocker
Which list did you use?
On 1/9/2020 at 10:37 PM, GreenDragoon said:Wave6 5A
(36) Tallissan Lintra [RZ-2 A-wing]
(1) Heroic
Points: 37(40) Zizi Tlo [RZ-2 A-wing]
(1) Heroic
(4) Advanced Optics
Points: 45(36) Greer Sonnel [RZ-2 A-wing]
(1) Heroic
(4) Advanced Optics
Points: 41(34) Ronith Blario [RZ-2 A-wing]
(1) Heroic
(4) Advanced Optics
Points: 39(32) Blue Squadron Recruit [RZ-2 A-wing]
(1) Heroic
(4) Advanced Optics
Points: 37Total points: 199
This one @arctic_rogue
Tallie did basically nothing all game. No block, her shot (had only Luke) was easily shrugged off, or she rolled blank focus 😂
I'm honestly considering changing her out...
9 hours ago, GreenDragoon said:Zizi will be so expensive! I'm playing my first game with her right now and WOW! First roll had natties so I just took an evade because why not...
EZ, earned and deserved. "EZizi"
10 hours ago, GreenDragoon said:This one @arctic_rogue
Tallie did basically nothing all game. No block, her shot (had only Luke) was easily shrugged off, or she rolled blank focus 😂
I'm honestly considering changing her out...
DON'T TAKE TALLI OUT! She's the face on Heroic card... they'll stop to work... 😮
Seriously though, i am still debating is 5/5/4/2/1 worth taking with one opticless ship, or is it better to go 5/4/2/1/1 with optics ;U need more data 😛
Just now, kenoslaw said:Seriously though, i am still debating is 5/5/4/2/1 worth taking with one opticless ship, or is it better to go 5/4/2/1/1 with optics ;U need more data 😛
At the moment I'm leaning towards 5/4/2/1/1. But I'm really not sure, because Ronith is better if his wingmates are higher i than him. Maybe 5/5/4/1/1 is still/again the answer?
I enjoyed reading your battle report - I am thinking about using five A's - I was going to go with zizi - greer- zari and two ps1's (everyone with optics and heroic). I don't like tali but I am interested in your take on the new pilots especially the low ps one.
24 minutes ago, freakyg3 said:I enjoyed reading your battle report - I am thinking about using five A's - I was going to go with zizi - greer- zari and two ps1's (everyone with optics and heroic). I don't like tali but I am interested in your take on the new pilots especially the low ps one.
FYI, if you go with that build, someone has to lose Heroic.
5 hours ago, GreenDragoon said:
Joy! You didn't mention in the end Stats how often Ronith's ability triggered. It looks like it triggered once? I think tracking that might be huge on deciding between him (losing Optics on Tallie) and another BSR (Optics back on Tallie).
5 minutes ago, gennataos said:Joy! You didn't mention in the end Stats how often Ronith's ability triggered. It looks like it triggered once? I think tracking that might be huge on deciding between him (losing Optics on Tallie) and another BSR (Optics back on Tallie).
Good point! Yes, I used it just once, but also because I didn't have to use it more. That's why I left it away, but you're right that tracking it is fine.
19 minutes ago, GreenDragoon said:Good point! Yes, I used it just once, but also because I didn't have to use it more. That's why I left it away, but you're right that tracking it is fine.
Historically, in various lists I've used her, I've found Tallie fires a lot of unanswered shots. Ronith sure seems like the correct choice if his ability keeps firing, though.
47 minutes ago, gennataos said:FYI, if you go with that build, someone has to lose Heroic.
nope it fits
7 minutes ago, freakyg3 said:
Oh! Duh, Zari instead of Tallie. Missed that. Huh, interesting.
Is a bump from Tallie to Zizi that impactful to the list? It’s definitely a bump, just don’t know if I believe it’s a big bump.
Edited by gennataos1 hour ago, freakyg3 said:I enjoyed reading your battle report - I am thinking about using five A's - I was going to go with zizi - greer- zari and two ps1's (everyone with optics and heroic). I don't like tali but I am interested in your take on the new pilots especially the low ps one.
I also don't like Tallie btw. Don't know why, she just never clicked with me. I have some ideas why, but not sure.
Anyway, Ronith seems like a better heroic to me if that makes sense? Allows you to take risks that you normally wouldn't, and ups the damage output by a bit more. But huge grain of salt because I played a single game.
1 hour ago, GreenDragoon said:Good point! Yes, I used it just once, but also because I didn't have to use it more. That's why I left it away, but you're right that tracking it is fine.
Thing is ppl tend not to shoot him or zizi due to durability. That is often also a win.
3 minutes ago, kenoslaw said:Thing is ppl tend not to shoot him or zizi due to durability. That is often also a win.
Yes, that happend in my game, too. And the one time he got shot by two good attacks, he survived - which is even expected.
Well I cheated on you all again and played Republic last night, but I'm assembling my 5A box tonight and that will be in my testing rotation again.
@GreenDragoon loved the battle report. In my 5A games from before I learned that I don't really want to spread out my starting formation too far: too often you can leave your killbox timing off. I like to put my furthest-out A-wing on either side of the board directly staring at an obstacle, one of your pre-combat actions to be to roll to either side of it depending on their setup. Another common opening move from the flanker furthest from the enemy is a three bank away followed by a boost if needed. This is the elusive 3 turns ahead thinking, and it only works because the enemy doesn't have any real agency in it: you are working on setting yourself up for a 5 straight down a lane to put the outer edge of your killbox together so its [3 bank away+optional boost] -> [Bank or hard turn+optional boost] -> Straight maneuver to close the killbox. Round 3 I find is typically when combat tends to happen anyway: your close flanker can 2 hard barrel roll back to delay and then hard turn again, using boost to set up your straight maneuvers. I did a lot of practicing alone just picking different areas on the board to assemble the killbox and made sure I was able to get all 5 ships there exactly on turn 3.
I've also found that I don't like facing sideways to start. Often I can go fast straight out of the gate if my opponent splits their forces to the corners and force them to panic maneuver their forces in and put them off plan. Otherwise I like your setup: lower I pilots center board, flank out the other pilots.
I will definitely have to rethink and practice my opening. This was something I threw together from memory, without much thought put into the details. So thanks a lot for your comment!
I feel like @kenoslaw 's and @RStan 's openings are both totally valid, depending on the match-up.
Now, i don't want to derail this beautiful thread from the 5A course, but there was been Snap + 4 mentioned before, so I feel
@GreenDragoon
opened that window for me.
I'm kind of loving the mix and match available for T-70s, A-Wings and Fireballs. You know what is about the price of a BSR with Optics and comes at I5 with Intimidation for which he can probably always find a bump? Jarek Yeager.
6 minutes ago, gennataos said:I feel like @kenoslaw 's and @RStan 's openings are both totally valid, depending on the match-up.
Now, i don't want to derail this beautiful thread from the 5A course, but there was been Snap + 4 mentioned before, so I feel @GreenDragoon opened that window for me.
I'm kind of loving the mix and match available for T-70s, A-Wings and Fireballs. You know what is about the price of a BSR with Optics and comes at I5 with Intimidation for which he can probably always find a bump? Jarek Yeager.
I'd be lying if I said I wasn't looking at Fireball 3A and a Pod...
8 minutes ago, gennataos said:I feel like @kenoslaw 's and @RStan 's openings are both totally valid, depending on the match-up.
Now, i don't want to derail this beautiful thread from the 5A course, but there was been Snap + 4 mentioned before, so I feel @GreenDragoon opened that window for me.
I'm kind of loving the mix and match available for T-70s, A-Wings and Fireballs. You know what is about the price of a BSR with Optics and comes at I5 with Intimidation for which he can probably always find a bump? Jarek Yeager.
Well I have not had remotely close to @RStan and @kenoslaw levels of success, so I agree. I just know that @GreenDragoon had a very similar starting setup to me, other than his flankers were a little further apart that I'd put them and his interior pilots were facing sideways.
I'm definitely interested in Yeager in place of the BSR. Intimidation is a saucy little trick too, but I was thinking more along these lines:
Zizi Tlo (40)
Heroic (1)
Advanced Optics (4)
Ship total: 45 Half Points: 23 Threshold: 2
Greer Sonnel (36)
Heroic (1)
Advanced Optics (4)
Ship total: 41 Half Points: 21 Threshold: 2
Tallissan Lintra (36)
Heroic (1)
Advanced Optics (4)
Ship total: 41 Half Points: 21 Threshold: 2
Zari Bangel (35)
Heroic (1)
Advanced Optics (4)
Ship total: 40 Half Points: 20 Threshold: 2
Jarek Yeager (33)
Ship total: 33 Half Points: 17 Threshold: 3
Total: 200
View in Yet Another Squad Builder 2.0:
https://raithos.github.io/?f=Resistance&d=v8ZhZ200Z387X172WWW186Y270X172WWW186Y240X172WWW186Y271X172WWW186Y377XWWWWWW&sn=Unnamed Squadron&obs=
You swap out Ronith for Zari, who IMO is super underrated. Nearly every game in the initial scrum I'd have Zari in the middle of the mess, and I'd suddenly realize I could dial in literally anything. Oh, I'm going to run into your squad and you are going to fly past? Neat, focus rotate anyway. You've got 3 I5s and everyone has Optics.
I wasn't going to get a Fireball. I wasn't going to invest any further in Resistance for a bit. I wasn't impressed with the Fireball as a ship, as a model, or with its mechanics. But y'all are forcing me to reconsider. I'm never( tm ) going to run 5A. Pinkie swear. But. I surely do love hearing about how others do with it, and I surely do love flying the little buggers, and I surely have been looking for the right Ace(?) to fly with trip-A's (without much success). And **** if the Fireball doesn't open some possibilities. ****.
5 minutes ago, Kleeg005 said:I wasn't going to get a Fireball. I wasn't going to invest any further in Resistance for a bit. I wasn't impressed with the Fireball as a ship, as a model, or with its mechanics. But y'all are forcing me to reconsider. I'm never( tm ) going to run 5A. Pinkie swear. But. I surely do love hearing about how others do with it, and I surely do love flying the little buggers, and I surely have been looking for the right Ace(?) to fly with trip-A's (without much success). And **** if the Fireball doesn't open some possibilities. ****.
*cough*
Zizi Tlo (40)
Heroic (1)
Advanced Optics (4)
Ship total: 45 Half Points: 23 Threshold: 2
Tallissan Lintra (36)
Heroic (1)
Ship total: 37 Half Points: 19 Threshold: 2
Ronith Blario (34)
Heroic (1)
Advanced Optics (4)
Ship total: 39 Half Points: 20 Threshold: 2
Poe Dameron (68)
Heroic (1)
R4 Astromech (2)
Integrated S-Foils (0)
Black One (2)
Mag-Pulse Warheads (6)
Ship total: 79 Half Points: 40 Threshold: 4
Total: 200
View in Yet Another Squad Builder 2.0:
https://raithos.github.io/?f=Resistance&d=v8ZhZ200Z387X172WWW186Y240X172WWWY388X172WW186Y231X172W5WW175WW171W311&sn=Unnamed Squadron&obs=
Or instead of Ronith you can just put in Yeager and have 6 points for bid or other activities and run 6-5-5-5. Because like, the Fireball is just a more different RZ2.